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 Coco Growers Thread. 
#7395 - 04/21/08 11:46 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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We all know that our method beats both soil or full hydro so here's a thread to discuss our favorite media.
Here's my preferences for Coco.
Ph. 5.5 to 5.5
Mix 60/40 Coco/perlite
Nutes Canna coco, WTF would you use?
Please add and discuss.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#7538 - 04/22/08 12:21 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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where do you get yours from ?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#7672 - 04/22/08 12:49 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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My friend hasn't grown indoors yet but is getting ready to, and he's been leaning towards a soilless grow medium (pots, not hydro). Coco and perlite looks like it might be better than vermiculite peat and perlite (two is easier than three  ). Are there any reasons why this is the case? 
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
#7768 - 04/22/08 01:12 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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No reason at all, Coco is the most user friendly media out there. For simple low maintenance growing, you can't beat Coco.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#7789 - 04/22/08 01:18 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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You've sold my friend on it. 
He was leaning towards soilless to begin with. It says its resistant to bacteria and fungal growth. Anything else wonderful about it?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
#7871 - 04/22/08 01:47 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Only having to water it once every two or three days. The fact that beneficial bacteria such as trichoderma with thrive in it. The ease of flushing at the end of the flowering period compared to soil... the list goes on.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#7879 - 04/22/08 01:51 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Thanks for making this thread! 
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#9522 - 04/22/08 09:40 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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100% chunky coir, top fed for 15minutes, 3x per light period, on a recirculating flood table.
2.0ec pH 5.7-6-1
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
#9858 - 04/23/08 12:25 AM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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Hey Mr Dexter! Good to see you.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#10382 - 04/23/08 12:09 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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I've never tried straight coco but maybe i'll give agroponics a shot. I usually use a alot of coco with a real airy soil mix which is a little denser than coco but not much. Might have to try some of my plants coco/perlite to compare.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#11512 - 04/24/08 06:27 AM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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I've got a couple questions for you. 
How do you administer your nutrients? Is there simply a set amount diluted in the water every time you water the plants, the amount changing depending on what cycle the plants are on? Do you use a meter to measure the dissolved salts and then decide how to feed them based on that? The more in depth you get the better.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#12465 - 04/25/08 07:43 AM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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havent gone straight coco yet.. i have a shit ton of it here though..guess im gonna have to give it a whirl
good thread bro .. good to see ya helping out...
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
#12841 - 04/25/08 06:47 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Quote:
Sirius said:
I've got a couple questions for you.
How do you administer your nutrients? Is there simply a set amount diluted in the water every time you water the plants, the amount changing depending on what cycle the plants are on? Do you use a meter to measure the dissolved salts and then decide how to feed them based on that? The more in depth you get the better.
I make up about ten gallons of nutes at a time and store them in a light proof drum fitted with a tap. I water simply with a small watering can.
I like to use 1/4 strength nutes on clones, 1/2 strength for veging than full strength fo flower all as per bottle directions. I also give them a watering of straight PH corrected water once every two weeks to reduce any build up of salts.
I have a EC meter but haven't used it in over a year, as I always use the same nutes and have come to know what concentrations of nutes work at which stages.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#12842 - 04/25/08 06:50 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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fuck, ive probably already asked you this, but i'll ask again, have you ever ran 100% coir? Or other types of coir than you normally use? What made you settle on 60/40?
Personally, i've always used chunky coir, its almost like mulch, but the last time i was at my local gardening center , I picked up some stuff which is very fine grade. I think its called 'Phase One', its packaged by the makers of the 'EZ Clone' machine. Ive got a batch of clones coming up im gonna run them both side by side, and see which one the girls like better.
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I've never used straight coco, I like using a mix as it seems to drain better and it's more aerated.
The coco I get in bags from my hydro shop is mainly fine ground with <10% chunky bits. If it was all chunky I probably wouldn't need as much perlite.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#13528 - 04/26/08 12:31 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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I make up about ten gallons of nutes at a time and store them in a light proof drum fitted with a tap. I water simply with a small watering can.
I like to use 1/4 strength nutes on clones, 1/2 strength for veging than full strength fo flower all as per bottle directions. I also give them a watering of straight PH corrected water once every two weeks to reduce any build up of salts.
Awesome. Do you put clones straight into your coco mix or do you use rockwool cubes? How do you start feeding the clones the nutes, the same day and once every day, or what? Just trying to develop a better sense of everything.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
#13591 - 04/26/08 02:21 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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I like to use one inch rockwool cubes, straight ph corrected water and low light until they're rooted, use a plastic propagator like this..
 http://www.greenharvest.com.au/images/Tools/mini_greenhouse.jpg">
Mist the inside of the plastic lid a few times a day for the first week and dont soak the rockwool, it just needs to be damp, not flooded, I use a ten ml syringe for watering the cubes and give them about 4ml each cube every day or two.
Keep the vents closed for the first week and put a sheet of paper over the top so the clones get no direct light.
Trimming the leaves right back helps prevent water loss due to transpiration and low light levels reduce photo synthesis allowing the clones to concentrate on rooting instead of stressing by trying to photosynthesize light while having no incoming nutrient supply.
Only start giving them nutes and full light when they have visible roots.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#13613 - 04/26/08 02:33 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Keep the vents closed for the first week and put a sheet of paper over the top so the clones get no direct light.
interesting, i'll have to try this next time i clone. I usually see roots between 7-10 days using peat pellets and a humidity dome. Whats the average time you see roots using this method?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
#13922 - 04/26/08 10:48 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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About the same time frame, 7 to 10 days on average.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#13989 - 04/27/08 12:02 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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I'll still have to try it out, this strain im currently working with has proven to be a bitch to clone so far.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
#14035 - 04/27/08 01:10 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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What problems are you having?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#14037 - 04/27/08 01:13 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Trimming the leaves right back helps prevent water loss due to transpiration and low light levels reduce photo synthesis allowing the clones to concentrate on rooting instead of stressing by trying to photosynthesize light while having no incoming nutrient supply.
Sounds like a great idea, but to what extent do the leaves get trimmed back?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
#14130 - 04/27/08 11:48 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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I usually cut my clones leaves about quarter to half of the leaf off for transpiration.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#14235 - 04/27/08 02:28 PM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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What problems are you having?
they don't want to root, period. Out of the 50 clones my friend took only 5 survived. I never really got to use the method i prefer, but, he went out and bought an ez cloner and even that couldn't get his cuttings to show roots. They sit there, look nice and green for a week or so, then they crisp up and die.
I just got my peat pellets and preferred rooting hormone in. I'm going over in a day or two to take some more cuttings and see if my method works for them. Along side that i'll try your method and compare.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
#14256 - 04/27/08 03:14 PM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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Hmmm.. Some strains are difficult to clone, but having a 10% success rate something is wrong.
Here is the way I clone maybe it'll work if you're having trouble. I start off by cutting big healthy strong clones because they are more stable than little clones. I split the bottom of the cutting up about half an inch to increase surface area for rooting.
I dip the bottom in water immediately. Then I dip in rooting hormone gel. You dip it in water to prevent air from getting trapped in there before you dunk in rooting hormone gel.
After I dunk in the gel I put them in 1 inch rockwool cubes and dunk them in a B1 & H2O solution. Always use quarter to half strength of recommended dose from whatever B1 brand you use until you are certain of its strength. Got to be gentle with these little girls. After being dunked in a b1 and h20 solution I put them in a tray to root under a humidity dome. Keep humidity over 80%, use a humidity dome and mist with water multiple times a day. I also use a seed mat that I put under the plastic tray which gives off a little bit of heat underneath to stimulate rooth growth.
After a couple of days I give them extremely light veg formula.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Evan]
#14585 - 04/28/08 10:49 AM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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Here is the way I clone maybe it'll work if you're having trouble.
Oh, im confident with my cloning methods. These were all cuttings my friend took. Some were too small, some had stems that were too woody, etc. At first i thought it was something wrong with his method, but when he bought the ez cloner and go the same results it made me wonder if it was just the plant and not him.
Now that i have my peat pellets and rooting gel he wants me to come over and take more cuttings. I'm going to take a bunch of cuttings from different parts and use my method, hanky's method, and if he has room i'll try the ez cloner as well.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
#15700 - 04/30/08 01:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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fuck, ive probably already asked you this, but i'll ask again, have you ever ran 100% coir? Or other types of coir than you normally use? What made you settle on 60/40?
Personally, i've always used chunky coir, its almost like mulch, but the last time i was at my local gardening center , I picked up some stuff which is very fine grade. I think its called 'Phase One', its packaged by the makers of the 'EZ Clone' machine. Ive got a batch of clones coming up im gonna run them both side by side, and see which one the girls like better.
Get back to us on this, I'm interested to see what straight coir does. I talked to some people today who swear by straight coir talking about getting almost double yields on their soil. I'm going to try it straight up this run hmm.
Some of you may find this intersting its the "Idiots Guide to Coco-Coir Growing" at cannaseedcollective.com with added discussion on coco as a medium. https://www.cannaseedcollective.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=2319
Hanky, how often are you watering with your 60/40 mix?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Evan]
#15811 - 04/30/08 07:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hanky, how often are you watering with your 60/40 mix?
Using 5 gallon buckets I need to water once every two or three days.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#15832 - 04/30/08 07:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I mixed my coco like yours but also added those lava rock marbles.
Still not sure if I prefer it to ProMix,
but I am happy to use a renewable resource as opposed to peat.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: fondacox]
#15886 - 04/30/08 08:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Are you using Coco specific nutes? They're worth it IMO.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#16094 - 04/30/08 10:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, general hydro and others...
I have lots of nutes, so I'm not going to consider switching until I use these up.
Here is what I use: Fonda Cox's Feeding Program
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: fondacox]
#16516 - 05/01/08 07:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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fondacox how are your yeilds looking with the mix you have?
To me it only makes sense to use coco nutes if you are starting with fresh coco, if you are reusing then you don't need nutes specific to a medium high in potassium because there should be little potassium left after a full run and complete rinsing. Unless for some reason there still is large amounts of K still left in there, I doubt it though.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Evan]
#16557 - 05/01/08 08:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is my first time using it, just repotted my clones a few weeks ago in it. I've already learned the hard way that I have to feed them every watering. Using peat I fed once and watered once.
I might switch back if they don't perk up soon 
Honestly I never had so many problems, first the ballast goes, then the outlet gets fried, now the plants aren't as happy in the coco...it's definitely been a challenging week.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: fondacox]
#16587 - 05/01/08 08:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Keep us updated!
I'm about to drop my vegging girls in coco, I'm think I'll use CNS17 which is Botanicare's Coco nutrient for my first run.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Evan]
#16643 - 05/01/08 09:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I know I am just asking for drama, but I'm going to hold off on flowering till I get the hang of the coco in veg...
This will also give me time to buy and assemble one of these:
Hydro Home
I'm tired of wasting my light on such a small space. Probably either Manhatan or London for the extra space.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: fondacox]
#16695 - 05/01/08 10:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i have the same size room, different company though, and they're pretty fucking big. Once i get the room to set it up and im putting it back into use, you can fit a fuckton of plants in there 
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
#16735 - 05/01/08 10:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sweet! I just want to use my 1000W to it's potential...
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
#16957 - 05/02/08 06:16 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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stupid question, but is 'coco' the same as 'coco coir'? thanks in advanced.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: bwoy]
#17022 - 05/02/08 08:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Actually its hot chocolate with those little freeze dried mashmallows. Some people are adding perlite when there aren't enough marshmallows. no no no just playing . Yes, 'Coco' is Coco Coir.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: bwoy]
#17666 - 05/02/08 09:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's a valid question, there is also coco fiber.
The stuff we are talking about is actually sold by hydroponic companies like "Grotek" and other.
But yes, I believe it is coco coir, the same thing used in mushroom cultivation.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: fondacox]
#23506 - 05/09/08 09:24 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just dropped my vegged girls into coco. They love it!  I decided to just use the nutrients that I have the most of which is GH Flora Nova, so far no problems and they've been going for a couple days.
I'm setting up a drip system using 1/4 inch tubing to make rings with 4 drippers on each ring connected to a supply line from a pump in the reseviour. Not sure how many times a day I will make it drip but so far it seems to be holding water really well, more than I expected and read about actually.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#27478 - 05/12/08 01:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I like to use 1/4 strength nutes on clones, 1/2 strength for veging than full strength fo flower all as per bottle directions. I also give them a watering of straight PH corrected water once every two weeks to reduce any build up of salts.
Another question came up to ask you.
How much of your nutrients do you typically go through in one grow? How many plants do you typically grow, how tall do they get, and how long are they in veg and in flower?
I'm trying to gauge expected cost of nutrients for my friend for when he grows. He'll be doing coco as well. I guess it doesn't matter because he'll be growing either way, but he's also considering where to get nutrients from and some different ones available, so knowing that will help him decide beforehand.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
#27517 - 05/12/08 03:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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He'll be doing coco as well. How many plants, how tall do they typically get, how long are they in veg and in flower?
That's really dependent on you. How many plants does he WANT to have, how big is his grow space? Veg time from seed and clones are different too (in a way). You don't have to wait for your plants to show sex or become mature before flowering from seed, but it's recommended. If you sex plants from seed expect 4-6 weeks in veg. If you're growing from clones you only technically need to veg them until roots develop.
Plants triple in size (give or take) when placed from veg into flowering. I vegged 4 clones to about 10-12" and now they're close to 3 ft. I vegged one clone to about 4-6 inches and it's a little over a foot long right now. So, if he wants big plants a longer veg time is needed, if he wants small plants the veg time is very minimal (when working with clones that is).
Flowering is strain dependent. Expect anywhere from 50-80 days flowering. Indicas have shorter times (50-60 days) hybrids a bit longer (55-75 days) and pure sativas are the longest (10-12 weeks). Of course these times are ESTIMATES, you should harvest your plant when they tell you they're ready. The best method to do this is to check the trichrom development and harvest when the trichs show you the high you wish to acheive.
clear trichs = clear, heady high
clear and cloudy trichs = semi clear high, more pronounced body effect, slight couch lock
cloudy trichs = more sedating high, more in the body, slight head high, more couchlock then previous description
cloudy and amber trichs = almost the same as above except it's more sedating with a heavier couchlock feeling
amber trichs = total couch lock, almost no head high, very strong body high.
As for nutes, well, again it's dependent on how many and how big they are. Since you're growing in a soilless mix you should be feeding them nutes with every watering. The more plants you have, or, the bigger their pots are, the more water and nutes you will need. When growing hydro you should always buy a big amount of nutes, it's always better to have more then not enough. I'd buy at least quart sized bottles if i were you, but again, if you're planning on going big you may need to order even larger then that.
Depending on the strength of the nutrient solutions the amount you use per gallon varies. For instance (even though this is soil measurements) i use 4 tbsp of big bloom but only 2 tsp of my other flowering nutes. So, with each feeding, i use more big bloom then sweet + heavy bloom, in that case i would need to have more big bloom on hand since i use it faster. In fact my brand new bottle is now almost 1/2 gone and im only a little over 1/2 way in this grow.
So, take that all into account when figuring out what you need to buy and how much. It's really simple to remember that the more water you need to use the more nutes you're going to need. I don't use hanky's coco line because i don't grow coco, he would be able to give you an even better idea of how much is used and how much he buys for his flowering cycles.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
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That's really good information, presented in a very informative way.
I already knew all of it though. I was wondering where in the hell you were coming from with it, but I read my question you quoted and then had the dawning comprehension. 
I was asking Hanky how many plants he typically grows, how long he vegs and flowers, and how tall they get so I could better understand his nutrient usage when he responded.
 for the confusion, it was my bad for not clarifying I was inquiring into his specific situation for frame of reference.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
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my fault heheh. Since im not hanky i can't answer those questions! But if i were to venture a guess id say his plants were about 3-5 ft in height and with that height i would assume at least a 3 gallon pot if not bigger.
Take that with a huge grain of salt until the right person can give you the right answers heeheh
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
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I'd ask you more about your situation but since its soil it wouldn't provide too much insight into what to expect... unless there is some sort of mathematical formula for the difference...
Multiply by 2.4, perhaps? 
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
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well, as a rule of thumb, hydro grows use more nutes because there's no where else fro the plants to get them from.
For instance S+HB requires 4 tsp (full strength) for a hydro setup. For soil the recommended dosage is 2 tsp, 1/2 of what is required for hydro.
As im sure you know there are nutrient lines out there specifically designed for hydro. These ferts may require less per feeding then something that can be used for soil/hydro. Also solid fertilizers are generally very strong and require less when compared to a liquid fert. Hanky uses nutes specifically designed for coco growing, this line he uses may require more or less then other lines.
Bottom line is it all really depends on the nutrient line you choose, but generally hydro requires more nutes per feeding then soil does.
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For instance S+HB requires 4 tsp (full strength) for a hydro setup. For soil the recommended dosage is 2 tsp, 1/2 of what is required for hydro.
Multiplying by 2.4 was a good guess.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
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Coda was 100%, times vary nute use varies, flower times and veg times vary. No two of my grows have been the same for a variety of reasons including changing strains, my laziness, time of year, colder lights off temps in winter, hotter lights on temps in summer.
Nothing is constant, my grows aren't some kind of automated production lines. I dont keep track of my veg times, I just veg till I feel like switching, I dont keep track of flower time, I harvest when the trichs are how I want them.
There are no exact figures, except as Coda said, buy quart bottles at the very least.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
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I wasn't expecting exact figures and I realize that it varies as everything else varies, I was just curious if you had a general amount you would expect to go through during the course of one grow. If your grows vary to an extent that you wouldn't have an in the ballpark estimate, then that's fine.
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I don't think I've ever used more than a quart each of a and b in a single flowering.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
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Thanks! Checked into the price of that and it seems very reasonable. How much do you use during vegetative growth?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
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Sorry, that's what I meant, from when I put them in the room and veg them for a bit through to harvest is what I meant by a flowering.
I can tell you that each plant gets 2 to 3 liters of nute solution every two to three days growing in 15 liter buckets. At rates of 2 to 3 ml per liter I get around 350 ~ 400 liters of nutes per liter pack of A/B nutes.
Thinking about all that made my brain hurt.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#30574 - 05/15/08 08:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was guessing that is what you meant but I thought to ask to be on the safe-side.
That set of coco nutes looks interesting, my friend might have to check into finding a good way of getting them. 
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
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can tell you that each plant gets 2 to 3 liters of nute solution every two to three days growing in 15 liter buckets.
You have any filtering setups on your water or do you just use good 'ol tap water?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
#30831 - 05/15/08 04:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just plain old tap water which around here is fairly alkaline.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#31010 - 05/15/08 06:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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same here, mines around 7.5, been causing me some problems this grow. My soil's runoff is around 7.0-7.2 right now so i have to go out and buy some micro nutes.
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Do you PH correct your water or just use it as it is?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#31304 - 05/15/08 11:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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as is (laziness!). Definitely why im seeing these problems, i should at least the damn jugs sit for a night to evap the chlorine. This has just been a super lazy grow from the start. Hell i didn't even get my nutes until like the 2nd week of flower
I do have some PH down which i will take advantage of in the future.
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DWC doesn't use any media.
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hydroton or rockwool.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
#32589 - 05/17/08 06:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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same here, mines around 7.5, been causing me some problems this grow. My soil's runoff is around 7.0-7.2 right now so i have to go out and buy some micro nutes.
pH differences will cause some major problems, seems it most cases when my pH is off for some reason, usually the pH meter needs to be recalibrated it'll take a week to get my plants back to normal, which is always a drag. If you are doing coco I would keep the pH around 5.5 from the advice i've seen around the internet coco likes the pH lower than 6. I usually give my soil plants 6, and was giving my coco the same and sure enough I had problems. I dropped the ph down .5 and everything is solid now.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Evan]
#33068 - 05/18/08 12:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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lol, i know im posting in the coco thread and hydro forum, but, my grows are all soil for the time being. I'm pretty sure that if my PH was sitting at 7.0 or so for a hydro grow i'd be looking at some dead plants by now
However, even though i am using soil, it's alkalinity is causing me problems. It's no problem really, i've just been dumb not to do anything about it til now. Well that and lazy and broke as well, heh. Hopefully i can find the iron and zinc supplement i need at a reasonable price, the only nursery i had time to visit was trying to charge me a ridiculous price for what i needed.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
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Should work fine but having never used it I can't say for sure.
Generally you get what you pay for and cheap nutes should be avoided at all costs. I'm not sure what that stuff costs but if it's comparable in price range with other popular formulas then give it a go.
The additives seem to contain the goods for a healthy root system plus micro nutes and will complement the A/B nutes well, so yeah use both if you choose one.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#34703 - 05/20/08 04:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The price is about the same, but I'm wondering about the NPK formula.
Canna Coco:
Coco A NPK Formula: 4-0-1
Coco B NPK Formula: 0-4-2
Atami Coco:
NPK Coco Nutrition A: 6-0-6 (w/v)
NPK Coco Nutrition B: 1-5-6 (w/v)
The Atami is more or less in proportion except for the potassium. Combine the A and B together and canna has potassium at 3 and atami has it at 12. Is this going to be a problem?
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It shouldn;'t be, the low levels of K in canna are designed to be supplemented with canna PK13/14 during flowering. That would explain the higher levels in the Atami stuff.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#35645 - 05/21/08 05:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It should be safe to use as is for vegetative growth as well? My instincts are telling me to be cautious about that, but then I don't really know enough/have enough experience to have instincts in the first place. I guess it would always be possible to boost the nitrogen and phosphorous levels with something else and dilute the total concentration more if there is a potassium overfert issue during vegetative growth..... I guess my worrying about this is baseless....
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
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Just wanted to say that my coco run is about to finish in 4 weeks and this is the most stable, healthiest, problem free run I've ever seen. I used GH FloraNova series with no problems with Calcium/Magnesium deficiency. I did wash th shit out of my coco first though.I will never go back to soil or hydro, it doesn't get any better than this. I'm almost in disbelief how easy this is after all the crap I've put up with the sensitivity of soil grow plants. Hope this encourages others to try coco.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Evan]
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I will never go back to soil or hydro,
psssst, coco is hydro
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
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its agroponics Also mine is straight coco no perlite so I don't have a drip system or anything I just water once a day. You guys ever clone in coco? I've got a stubborn strain that won't work in rockwool. I've heard coco works well...
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this is the most stable, healthiest, problem free run I've ever seen.
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I did wash th shit out of my coco first though.
That's probably the single most important issue with Coco.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#55467 - 06/11/08 10:33 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's probably the single most important issue with Coco.
What's the method behind this then? Just soak and drain repeatedly?
I'm looking into some soiless methods for my next grow. Definitely going to try coco, and a perlite/verm bucket for the next grow.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
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Yes, flush it until the runoff is clear and the PH is the same as the water you're flushing through it. I flush about 100 liters of water through each 15 liters of coco.
This is easy to do in a large bucket with minimum half inch drain holes drilled in the base, any smaller than half inch will just block up and prevent flushing.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
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great thread guys, really enjoying the read!
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Dizz]
#72570 - 07/05/08 01:10 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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any sog coco growers?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: captain.koons]
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I'd love to grow a sog but the laws here make it too risky. Anything over 25 plants can attract cultivation for sell and supply which can mean jail.
I work within the limits.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
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yeah here there is no magic number but less is better if busted.
really though how many plants you have isn't a give away it's just how much power consumption you have.
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Power consumption means nothing. People don't get busted for using power to run lights.
You will only get busted if you are stealing power.
Electricity companies are in the business of selling power, they do not report Their middle to high end customers to the police as potential dope growers.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
#74626 - 07/07/08 07:58 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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you sure about that?
like say you were running 10 000 watts?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: captain.koons]
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well wtf would you be running 10,000 watts for? even so, lets do the math so you can see for your self how even running 10k isn't that bad.
10,000 watts * 12 hrs (12/12 cycle) = 120,000 watts per day
120,000 / 1000 = 120 kwh/day
120 kwh * 30 days = 3600 kwh/month
3600 * .13$/kwh = 468$ mo
so, 468$ a month to run 10,000 watts. Sure, it's expensive, but maybe you like to run a window AC unit in every room, maybe you use 100 watt light bulbs in every room and leave them running 24/7. The power company won't give a shit because fuck, you're paying them at least 468$ per month (more i knew with other power usage). So, lets assume an average power bill is between 150-200 dollars. That means you're paying the company between 600-700 bucks a month. Yah, it's expensive when you look at it, but i know people who pay around 400 bucks a month for heating.
Anyways, unless you were planning a commercial grow op, something like this is absurd. If you were running 10k worth of lighting you're probably growing somewhere other then your home. And, if you do decide to do that in your own home, you deserve to get busted because that's just idiotic. I rarely see home growers go over 2k watts with their flowering cabinet, you just don't need that much power.
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statistically your 10x more likely to get busted if you don't live where you grow.
or at least the grow op is.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: captain.koons]
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33% of statistics are made up on the spot.
That's bullshit, if you know how to act there's no more chance of getting caught running a growhouse then there is running one in your own home.
rules to live by:
take care of the lawn
Make daily appearances
Leave some house lights on to indicate someone is living there
Furnish the house with more then just a dirty mattress
Don't visit during odd hours of the night
Don't sell or have heavy traffic coming in and out of the house
All you need to do is make sure that you can't detect the grow from outside and keep up appearances. If you make it look like your living there and keep up with the appearance of the house, you're no more likely to get busted. If you're not stealing power and your neighbors don't suspect you, i fail to see why it's anymore dangerous then growing in your own house. Now, it is more dangerous in the fact that if you do get busted, you're going down hard.
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Make daily appearances
Leave some house lights on to indicate someone is living there
Furnish the house with more then just a dirty mattress
how is this different from living where you grow?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: captain.koons]
#74715 - 07/07/08 11:16 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Because you don't have to live there. All you need to do is keep up the appearance that you do live there. So, for instance, lets say you show up to the house at time normal people come home from work. People would see you come in around that time, enter the house, and assume you just came home from work. Doesn't mean you have to spend the night there, doesn't even mean you have to spend more time then it takes to care for your plants.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
#74718 - 07/07/08 11:25 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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okay lets change that to
"if you grow commercially and have everything automated" vs living in your house.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
#74736 - 07/07/08 11:52 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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well wtf would you be running 10,000 watts for? Anyways, unless you were planning a commercial grow op, something like this is absurd.
Chimera had a 16k flowering room, but I guess that technically qualifies as a commercial op.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
#74877 - 07/07/08 01:51 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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chimera as in chimera seed co?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: captain.koons]
#74890 - 07/07/08 02:11 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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yah, chimera is also a breeder so that would explain his setup.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
#80264 - 07/12/08 09:32 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Can you use the same coco bricks sold for reptiles that people use for mushrooms? I have some hydro ferts I want to use up but whenever I use them on my soil grows my plant gets sick because I don't have proper way to buffer the pH or check the pH of the soil. If I get a brick of coir and a pH meter will I be all set to use coir or should I buy coir specific nutes. I've never grown with a nute cycle, just one soil grow under my belt and it was without ferts but I want to try this instead of switching to bubble buckets which was my original plan.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: jellyfish]
#80696 - 07/12/08 03:43 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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that coir should work fine, i would suggest getting coir specific nutes, but im sure you could get away with using hydro nutes.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
#80839 - 07/12/08 05:50 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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that coir should work fine, i would suggest getting coir specific nutes, but im sure you could get away with using hydro nutes.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
#80846 - 07/12/08 05:55 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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uh, what?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: jellyfish]
#81734 - 07/13/08 05:36 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Can you use the same coco bricks sold for reptiles that people use for mushrooms?
Make sure you adequately flush the coco before using it. A lot of coco, especially coco not specifically targeted towards indoor growers, might have a high level of salt content that needs to be removed. One good way I've found for flushing the coco is climbing in the bath-tub with a container, in which the brick can soak, that is larger in volume than the wet volume of the brick. Let it soak for awhile, and then work it apart with your hands, then put it in another container with drainage, like the pot it will be put in, for example. Work all the clumps out of the coco and keep it as lightly-compacted in the pot as possible, then just run a hell of a lot of water through it. 
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If I get a brick of coir and a pH meter will I be all set to use coir or should I buy coir specific nutes.
Yep, but make sure the pH meter is of good enough quality, waterproof digital, for example. You'll need calibrating solution to make sure the pH meter is accurate all the time.
If you don't use coir-specific nutrients, just make sure you understand what pH and which nutrient formulas coco needs, and use different hydro nutrients of yours to adjust to fulfill its needs.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
#81762 - 07/13/08 08:34 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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you could probably make calibrating solutions by mixing exact amounts of water and lye all the time
that would be pretty smart :o i think\
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: captain.koons]
#81772 - 07/13/08 09:17 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright I'll look into coir nutrients, but mine probably don't fit the criteria so I might have to buy coir specific ones. How do you buffer the pH of the coir, with regular pH up and down products? And do you adjust the pH of your feed to 7 or is it less?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: jellyfish]
#81796 - 07/13/08 10:04 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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How do you buffer the pH of the coir, with regular pH up and down products? And do you adjust the pH of your feed to 7 or is it less?
Regular bottles of pH+ and pH- should work fine. Usually it is best to adjust down to around 5 or 5.5.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
#81826 - 07/13/08 11:27 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I hear 5.2 is pushing it on the low side. 5 should definitely be too low.
5.5-5.8 is what I see a lot. Usually no lower than 5.2 (I'm not speaking from experience)
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: captain.koons]
#81893 - 07/13/08 12:52 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'm wrong on the 5, remembered the stuff wrong.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
#117325 - 09/02/08 06:48 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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What will adding epsom salts to my coir do? I read somewhere that it is good to add them but I don't remember if there was any amount stated.
Does 50ppm in the water sound right?
Does anyone have any experience with this?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: sen]
#117604 - 09/03/08 04:18 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Epsom salts is used primarily for the magnesium, but it also has sulfur. A gram per gallon will have 26ppm of Mg and 34ppm of S. Whether or not you actually need to be using it depends on your water and the nutrients you are using. If you're using tap-water, it could very well have all the magnesium you'll need, especially if you're using coco-specific nutrients. Coco nutrients and reverse osmosis water might not have enough of it though. I've read that, generally, its a good idea to aim for about 60ppm of Mg.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
#117716 - 09/03/08 01:11 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I should just get a hold of this?
Hanky: All Canna... Coco a+b, PK 13/14, Cannazyme and Rhizotonic.
In the mean time, while I wait for these nutes, what can I do in the mean time? I am cloning directly to flushed coir, with tap water thats been left to sit for 12 hrs. I haven't noticed any problems yet, should I expect any?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: sen]
#117772 - 09/03/08 04:08 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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sen said:
So I should just get a hold of this?
Of the Epsom salts? It'd certainly be handy to have it around just in case, and if you don't need it, you can always soak your feet in it.
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In the mean time, while I wait for these nutes, what can I do in the mean time? I am cloning directly to flushed coir, with tap water thats been left to sit for 12 hrs. I haven't noticed any problems yet, should I expect any?
How long until you get your nutrients, and how many days has it been since you've cloned? We just cloned directly into coco and it is easy as hell, just make sure you keep the coco just moist enough and enough humidity and it should work out fine. Did you soak the flushed coir in pH adjusted water?
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 Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: sen]
#117809 - 09/03/08 06:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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sen said:
So I should just get a hold of this?
Hanky: All Canna... Coco a+b, PK 13/14, Cannazyme and Rhizotonic.
I meant the coco specific nutrients that Hanky was talking about at the beginning of the thread.
I already have epsom salts I bought it when I picked up the coco because I read that I might need it.
As for flushing I just used my hot water in my shower. I don't have pH test kit. The expensive ones are just out of reach of my current finances and I am so unsure of the cheaply available ones that I've never bought one.
Is there an easy way to lower the pH a notch without the need for excessive specialty measures? Meaning a trip to possibly a grocery or hardware store instead of a hydro specific shop.
Would vinegar work? In small amounts obviously. Or is that going the opposite way on the scale? I'm unsure.
Anyway thanks for your help in this matter.
Oh shit, I almost forgot. The clones were cut dipped and planted yesterday. I have plenty more where those came from if there is any problems. They're all under domes and humidity is good. Little wilting in the leaves but nothing more than I usually encounter after 24 hours. I expect it to go away in the next day or so.
Getting the coco specific nutrients for this endeavor is turning out to be the difficult part it seems for a few reasons. 1st being there is no Hydro shops, 2nd because I don't have paypal/credit card to buy online.
I do however have access to lots of compost and I use compost tea usually for fertilizer. Maybe there's a way to get more nitrogen available to balance the K? Maybe I'm starting to ramble lol.
Let me know I'm willing to try anything ^_^
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: sen]
#118870 - 09/05/08 05:46 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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sen said:
I meant the coco specific nutrients that Hanky was talking about at the beginning of the thread.
Yep, I'd definitely recommend getting those nutrients. I have a similar coco-specific line by someone else, but Canna is renowned, and you're definitely going to need the A&B and PK 13/14. I don't know too much about rhizotonic, but cannayzme is really good for keeping the roots healthy by decomposing dead root matter and providing for beneficial bacteria that assist with nutrient uptake.
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As for flushing I just used my hot water in my shower. I don't have pH test kit. The expensive ones are just out of reach of my current finances and I am so unsure of the cheaply available ones that I've never bought one.
In the meantime, you'll definitely need to get the cheaply available ones (I'm assuming you're talking about something like test strips). While it isn't necessary to have the pH dialed in to an exact number, the optimum range that you'll really need for growing in coco (generally from 5.5 to 6.3) is usually a good deal more acidic than the water you'll be using, so adjusting the pH will be a must.
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Is there an easy way to lower the pH a notch without the need for excessive specialty measures? Meaning a trip to possibly a grocery or hardware store instead of a hydro specific shop.
Would vinegar work? In small amounts obviously. Or is that going the opposite way on the scale? I'm unsure.
I've heard vinegar will work, as well as lemon juice (I think I remember that lemon juice would be the better choice of the two), but these are really intended as temporary fixes, since they don't consist of buffering agents that will help stabilize the pH (basically, the pH will adjust down and then will drift right back up). While I couldn't say for sure without knowing the ingredients, I think pH down for aquariums (I think even Wal*Mart has this) would work.
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Getting the coco specific nutrients for this endeavor is turning out to be the difficult part it seems for a few reasons. 1st being there is no Hydro shops, 2nd because I don't have paypal/credit card to buy online.
I'd recommend getting a reloadable credit card from Wal*Mart. They give you a temporary card that you can use for the amount you initially load onto it, and then you'll get a permanent one in the mail in a week or so. I think it is like $10 to start it off, and then like $8 or so every time you want to load onto it (steep, but considering the service they are making available, its worth it).
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I do however have access to lots of compost and I use compost tea usually for fertilizer. Maybe there's a way to get more nitrogen available to balance the K? Maybe I'm starting to ramble lol.
If you can make that work for you, then there really wouldn't be a need for coco-specific nutrients, you'd just need to find the best way of making your teas to match the ways coco holds and releases nutrients.
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
#119509 - 09/08/08 11:45 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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To piggyback on Sirius' suggestions around pH balance, I actually would lean more toward temporary fixes for pH like citric acid (lemon juice) rather than pH stabilizers.
I agree that you NEED a pH testing kit of some sort, but once you have one, allowing some drift in the pH actually is beneficial because your plants' effectiveness at absorbing nutrients varies, with some nutes more accessible at a lower pH and some more accessible at a higher pH.
If you allow some CONTROLLED drift in pH your plants will be healthier IMO.
edit: I should state that this post is entirely theoretical and based on horticultural reading that I've been doing about cannabis from a variety of sources, I have not yet started growing, but I've been doing a lot of research so I think this info is accurate.
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quick question.
i have read about coconut having good rooting hormones in them....could i use straight coco as a cutting medium?
my plats are growing ok in it, just wondering if its ok to stick some cuttings in some moist coco with a humidity tent under a light??
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Chapter 4]
#121594 - 09/13/08 02:08 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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It should be more than okay. I don't know about the rooting hormones, but I've seen a lot of people saying they have great success going straight into coco. We tried taking our first set of clones a couple weeks ago, and we went with trying straight coco as well, since the benefit of having the same medium from the beginning is something we were looking for after having bad results going from rock-wool starting cubes to coco. 100% success!
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