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What next for this sapling (NEW UPDATE May 19th with pics)
    #16942 - 05/02/08 05:51 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)



This is a new project for me, I normally only grow shrooms, but a freind gave me a tonne of seeds so I thought I would take advantage of the Blazing Spanish sunshine and grow only my balcony, as it is pretty much legal here.

I started with just some basic substrate, but I think it's now time to transplant to a bigger pot. I have the following materials available to me, and would like so advice on what to use.

composted horse manure
vermiculite
perlite
universal substrate
coco coir
coffee grounds

Which of these are useful, and in what balance should I use them?

UPDATE!




As you can see she is doing well. I bought some nutes for her (cellmax bio-organuc grow) and transplanted her into a bigger pot.

NEW UPDATE!

I think things are looking OK.



She is in a bigger pot and seems t0o be enjoying the nutes.


Edited by bwoy (05/19/08 10:33 AM)


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Re: What next for this sapling (with pic) [Re: bwoy]
    #16946 - 05/02/08 07:39 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

coco coir, perlite, and vermiculite. Go to the hydro forum and read hankys coco growers thread. You'll need to buy some nutrients but out of the mediums you just listed, coco is the way to go.


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Re: What next for this sapling (with pic) [Re: coda]
    #16977 - 05/02/08 09:04 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

that is a very healthy lookin plant you got there :thumbup:

keep her going strong!


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Re: What next for this sapling (with pic) [Re: Yrat]
    #17024 - 05/02/08 10:40 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

It does look good. How old is it?


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Re: What next for this sapling (with pic) [Re: Jrsxt]
    #17075 - 05/02/08 11:40 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

it looks like the plant is in a good potting mix that it likes very much

perhaps you should simply transfer it to a larger pot with more of the same


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Re: What next for this sapling (with pic) [Re: Yrat]
    #17149 - 05/02/08 12:46 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

It is about a month old. It just sits on my balcony, I give it a water every 2 days and a spray twice a day (maybe not neccessary, but its just a habit I picked up from growing mushrooms!).


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Re: What next for this sapling (with pic) [Re: Yrat]
    #17151 - 05/02/08 12:47 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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it looks like the plant is in a good potting mix that it likes very much

perhaps you should simply transfer it to a larger pot with more of the same




agreed!

has it been outside since seed?
what strain? if you said im sorry for being blind.

she likes soil. keep her in soil. get a bigger pot. fill it with your soil and perlite(some verm if you want) and just dig out a hole in the center the same size as the pot that its in. flip it over(the roots should keep the soil ball intact. then flip it into the hole in the big pot. fill in the spaces. WALLA!

nothin to it.

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Re: What next for this sapling (with pic) [Re: just me]
    #17162 - 05/02/08 12:55 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Dont spray her while she has sun on her, shes not a mushroom, and water on leaves is not good for plants during sunny periods. Its kind of like a magnifying glass on an ant.


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Re: What next for this sapling (with pic) [Re: Laysthepipe]
    #19292 - 05/04/08 07:15 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Dont spray her while she has sun on her, shes not a mushroom, and water on leaves is not good for plants during sunny periods. Its kind of like a magnifying glass on an ant.




Great Tip:thumbup:


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Re: What next for this sapling (with pic) [Re: Ben18]
    #23403 - 05/09/08 07:28 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

New pix in 1st post!


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Re: What next for this sapling (with pic) [Re: bwoy]
    #23405 - 05/09/08 08:00 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

it's looking great

you should have gone with a much bigger pot though, soon you will have to transplant again!


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: bwoy]
    #23463 - 05/09/08 10:59 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

damn, nice job man! last time i grew my plant got to be about that size, but i had to give it away after some shit with some dumb bitch.


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: Dunno]
    #23581 - 05/09/08 12:21 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

it looks like that same pot.

get her into a bigger one!

she looks healthy:thumbup:

have you introduced any nutes yet?


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: just me]
    #23592 - 05/09/08 12:26 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

you gotta introduce her to nuts


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: Dunno]
    #23595 - 05/09/08 12:27 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Dunno was introduced to nuts as a sappling too


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: just me]
    #23599 - 05/09/08 12:29 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

sure was, the ass hole then told me to get out cause he was having sex


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: Dunno]
    #23614 - 05/09/08 12:33 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

HAHAHAHAH :thumbup:

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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: just me]
    #23619 - 05/09/08 12:35 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

:hamsterdance:


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: just me]
    #23630 - 05/09/08 12:39 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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it looks like that same pot.

get her into a bigger one!

she looks healthy:thumbup:

have you introduced any nutes yet?




yes, these:


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: bwoy]
    #23706 - 05/09/08 01:09 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

hmmm, i see, well aparently she likes them.

i personally would use something with a more even npk across the board. but to each their own.

keep her healthy. shell let you know if shes felling ill so watch her like shes your baby


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: just me]
    #23827 - 05/09/08 02:20 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

ok, i just pulled it off the shelf as it was organic and for vegetative growth. I'm a total n00b! I'ts been 4 days though and she is greenr than before and looking healthy.


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: bwoy]
    #23971 - 05/09/08 07:31 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

:congrats:


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: just me]
    #33655 - 05/19/08 10:34 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

update in 1st post.


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: just me]
    #33656 - 05/19/08 10:37 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup::thumbup: keep doin whatever you're doin! :gethigh:


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: Yrat]
    #33659 - 05/19/08 10:43 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Should I be pruning/trimming at all? I haven't touched her yet.


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: just me]
    #33663 - 05/19/08 10:50 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i prefer to tie down rather than trim, you keep the plant whole while still increasing branching.

check out my post in this thread here


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: Yrat]
    #33671 - 05/19/08 11:06 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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i prefer to tie down rather than trim, you keep the plant whole while still increasing branching.

check out my post in this thread here




Thanks for the help. When you say within a few days the plant will be growing upright again does this mean from the apex of the curve you create by bending it over?

Does the 'old' top of the plant stop growing or will it continue to grow towards the ground?

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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: bwoy]
    #33675 - 05/19/08 11:28 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

yes, the plant will turn upwards from the bend to seek out the sunlight again. branching increases because of the temporary loss of sunlight to the upper leaves, the plant "thinks" it has been topped. the top will continue to grow and produce your nice main cola, which you would lose via topping.

It is also a good way to maximize surface area and light exposure, which means faster growth.





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Re: What next for this sapling (NEW UPDATE May 19th with pics) [Re: bwoy]
    #33676 - 05/19/08 11:30 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

looking good man!


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: Yrat]
    #33684 - 05/19/08 11:51 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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yes, the plant will turn upwards from the bend to seek out the sunlight again. branching increases because of the temporary loss of sunlight to the upper leaves, the plant "thinks" it has been topped. the top will continue to grow and produce your nice main cola, which you would lose via topping.

It is also a good way to maximize surface area and light exposure, which means faster growth.








That's great! Thanks. So if I tie some string just under the top of the plant, and tie it slightly just under the bottom leaves I'm golden? Just measured her: 37cm. Good time to tie or should I wait a week?


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: bwoy]
    #33694 - 05/19/08 12:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

yup :thumbup:

37cm sounds like a good place to start.  you can do this multiple times as it reaches new heights.  i do it to the branches when they are big enough too, except it's more of a pulling and spreading out than bending down.

by bending the stem around you should get a good idea of how much further it would take to snap.  use this as a guide to how far you pull her down.  even if the stem collapses and "folds," the plant will be fine after a week or so, and will actually make a cool wooden knot around the break.  I've accidentally split stems right in two, with a visible hole clean through, and the plant went right on growing on.  some people do this on purpose to make fatter stems that they believe increases water transport, but i wouldn't go that far unless i have a fair number to experiment on.

post pics when you've gone through with it! :gethigh:


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: Yrat]
    #33705 - 05/19/08 12:13 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Will do.

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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: bwoy]
    #33719 - 05/19/08 12:27 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

Yrat said:post pics when you've gone through with it! :gethigh:




Will do.

I'll have to wait until I get 50 posts before I can give you a 5 star rating though!




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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: just me]
    #33762 - 05/19/08 01:16 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

bwoy said:
Quote:

Yrat said:post pics when you've gone through with it! :gethigh:




Will do.

I'll have to wait until I get 50 posts before I can give you a 5 star rating though!




go f*ck around in the smoke lounge, youll have 50 posts in like 3 minutes :lol:




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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: bwoy]
    #33763 - 05/19/08 01:19 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

LOL omg, DOA!!!! It's been yeeeeeeears since i've been over there.  DnB massif!

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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: coda]
    #33777 - 05/19/08 02:11 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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LOL omg, DOA!!!! It's been yeeeeeeears since i've been over there.  DnB massif!

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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: bwoy]
    #33810 - 05/19/08 02:48 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

as is the way with almost every single message board out there. Eventually all the good members leave and become replaced by morons. DOA was always good for a laugh and free mixes.


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Re: What next for this sapling (UPDATED with pics) [Re: coda]
    #35981 - 05/21/08 08:27 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i found some old pics from 2003 of a plant i tied down. you can see some of the strings if you look close.

you can see the main stem on the left. the rest are branches trained into a SOG





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