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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: AuroraBorealis]
    #31440 - 05/16/08 09:35 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

DWC doesn't use any media.


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    #31442 - 05/16/08 09:51 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: AuroraBorealis]
    #31739 - 05/16/08 02:59 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

hydroton or rockwool.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
    #32589 - 05/17/08 08:49 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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coda said:
same here, mines around 7.5, been causing me some problems this grow. My soil's runoff is around 7.0-7.2 right now so i have to go out and buy some micro nutes.




pH differences will cause some major problems, seems it most cases when my pH is off for some reason, usually the pH meter needs to be recalibrated it'll take a week to get my plants back to normal, which is always a drag. If you are doing coco I would keep the pH around 5.5 from the advice i've seen around the internet coco likes the pH lower than 6. I usually give my soil plants 6, and was giving my coco the same and sure enough I had problems. I dropped the ph down .5 and everything is solid now.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Evan]
    #33068 - 05/18/08 02:42 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

lol, i know im posting in the coco thread and hydro forum, but, my grows are all soil for the time being.  I'm pretty sure that if my PH was sitting at 7.0 or so for a hydro grow i'd be looking at some dead plants by now :wink:

However, even though i am using soil, it's alkalinity is causing me problems.  It's no problem really, i've just been dumb not to do anything about it til now.  Well that and lazy and broke as well, heh. Hopefully i can find the iron and zinc supplement i need at a reasonable price, the only nursery i had time to visit was trying to charge me a ridiculous price for what i needed.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #33844 - 05/19/08 03:12 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Hey hanky, do you think you could do me a favor and review this A/B set of coco nutes? These particular ones seem to be the only brand readily available, and I'm hoping this will work fine. :smile:

http://www.atami.com/countries/products.php?Region=Europe&Country=South-east+Europe&Page=Products&ProdId=20&ProductLine=B%27cuzz&SubCategory=Product+Information

They also have three coco boosters, Indica, Skunk, and Top44! :lol: Here's one of them, do you think it would help?

http://www.atami.com/countries/products.php?Region=Europe&Country=South-east+Europe&Page=Products&ProdId=54&ProductLine=B%27cuzz&SubCategory=Product+Information

Thanks a lot man!


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
    #34218 - 05/19/08 10:02 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Should work fine but having never used it I can't say for sure.

Generally you get what you pay for and cheap nutes should be avoided at all costs. I'm not sure what that stuff costs but if it's comparable in price range with other popular formulas then give it a go.

The additives seem to contain the goods for a healthy root system plus micro nutes and will complement the A/B nutes well, so yeah use both if you choose one.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #34703 - 05/20/08 06:41 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

The price is about the same, but I'm wondering about the NPK formula.

Canna Coco:
Coco A NPK Formula: 4-0-1
Coco B NPK Formula: 0-4-2

Atami Coco:
NPK Coco Nutrition A: 6-0-6 (w/v)
NPK Coco Nutrition B: 1-5-6 (w/v)

The Atami is more or less in proportion except for the potassium. Combine the A and B together and canna has potassium at 3 and atami has it at 12. Is this going to be a problem?
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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
    #35087 - 05/20/08 09:11 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

It shouldn;'t be, the low levels of K in canna are designed to be supplemented with canna PK13/14 during flowering. That would explain the higher levels in the Atami stuff.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #35645 - 05/21/08 07:41 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

It should be safe to use as is for vegetative growth as well? My instincts are telling me to be cautious about that, but then I don't really know enough/have enough experience to have instincts in the first place. :lol: I guess it would always be possible to boost the nitrogen and phosphorous levels with something else and dilute the total concentration more if there is a potassium overfert issue during vegetative growth..... I guess my worrying about this is baseless....

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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
    #52683 - 06/06/08 11:27 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Just wanted to say that my coco run is about to finish in 4 weeks and this is the most stable, healthiest, problem free run I've ever seen. I used GH FloraNova series with no problems with Calcium/Magnesium deficiency. I did wash th shit out of my coco first though.I will never go back to soil or hydro, it doesn't get any better than this. I'm almost in disbelief how easy this is after all the crap I've put up with the sensitivity of soil grow plants. Hope this encourages others to try coco.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Evan]
    #52693 - 06/06/08 11:41 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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I will never go back to soil or hydro,




psssst, coco is hydro :wink: :laugh:


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
    #53308 - 06/08/08 02:01 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

its agroponics :cool: Also mine is straight coco no perlite so I don't have a drip system or anything I just water once a day. You guys ever clone in coco? I've got a stubborn strain that won't work in rockwool. I've heard coco works well...


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Evan]
    #55442 - 06/11/08 12:13 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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this is the most stable, healthiest, problem free run I've ever seen. 




:yesnod::thumbup:

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I did wash th shit out of my coco first though.
 




That's probably the single most important issue with Coco.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #55467 - 06/11/08 12:33 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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That's probably the single most important issue with Coco.




What's the method behind this then?  Just soak and drain repeatedly?

I'm looking into some soiless methods for my next grow.  Definitely going to try coco, and a perlite/verm bucket for the next grow.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
    #55626 - 06/11/08 04:58 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, flush it until the runoff is clear and the PH is the same as the water you're flushing through it.  I flush about 100 liters of water through each 15 liters of coco.

This is easy to do in a large bucket with minimum half inch drain holes drilled in the base, any smaller than half inch will just block up and prevent flushing.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #58350 - 06/16/08 07:31 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

great thread guys, really enjoying the read!


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Dizz]
    #72570 - 07/05/08 03:10 AM (11 years, 17 days ago)

any sog coco growers?


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: captain.koons]
    #74592 - 07/07/08 06:13 AM (11 years, 14 days ago)

I'd love to grow a sog but the laws here make it too risky.  Anything over 25 plants can attract cultivation for sell and supply which can mean jail. 
I work within the limits.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #74614 - 07/07/08 08:19 AM (11 years, 14 days ago)

yeah here there is no magic number but less is better if busted.

really though how many plants you have isn't a give away it's just how much power consumption you have.

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