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The official fringe sciences and ufo thread.
    #460132 - 08/14/10 04:31 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

So since we do not have a forum for this type of stuff maybe we
can keep it in this official thread. Its been kind quiet lately as
far as the UFO and such are concerned except for the situation in china.

But Im gona get the ball rolling here with something else.

I believe that the history we grew up learning in school was only
but a fraction of the big picture of the history of this planet.
Ill keep it simple with just that statement.

This vido is long, about 1 hour and 37 mins long but a good place
to start if you do not want to watch the whole thing just go to 50 mins.



This comment was posted below on youtube....


"hancock - excellent

wilcock - can you please be silent when your interviewee is speaking... the "oH, Yes, Uhuh, Right, yes, yeap, mmmm, yea" is annoying."

Pretty spot on and possibly too many cocks involved but hey, this
shit is ridiculously interesting :lol:


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: DeadHearts]
    #460140 - 08/14/10 04:46 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I'm pretty on the fence over UFOs

I've even had some encounters when I was younger but the older I get the harder it is to maintain my belief.

there are just too many hoaxes and not enough evidence.
and the majority of the real unexplained happenings go unexplained


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: CosmicFool]
    #460145 - 08/14/10 04:54 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: iStoner]
    #460188 - 08/14/10 06:28 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

UFOs are real.  Whether or not there are aliens flying around in them is the debate.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: CosmicFool]
    #460272 - 08/14/10 09:41 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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CosmicFool said:


there are just too many hoaxes and not enough evidence.
and the majority of the real unexplained happenings go unexplained





Hoaxes are always gona happen. But I believe there is plenty of
evidence around to say at the very least that something is going on.
Im talking about well know officials testifying what the saw and
experienced. Everyone from astronauts to airplane pilots to police
officers.

There is also an incredible amount of info regarding crop circles
that definitely suggest that humans do not have the technology to
do such things. Some of course are fake.

I think there is too much evidence out there to ignore.


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: DeadHearts]
    #463780 - 08/19/10 10:14 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

New swirled order (crop circle documentary 2009)


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: THEBats]
    #463783 - 08/19/10 10:33 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

THEBats said:
UFOs are real.  Whether or not there are aliens flying around in them is the debate.




Is it a debate?  I think of it more as a sort of delusion of grandeur.


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: DieCommie]
    #463784 - 08/19/10 10:41 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

DieCommie said:
Quote:

THEBats said:
UFOs are real.  Whether or not there are aliens flying around in them is the debate.




Is it a debate?  I think of it more as a sort of delusion of grandeur.




Why dont you watch the video above in its entirety.


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: DieCommie]
    #463785 - 08/19/10 10:44 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

DieCommie said:
Quote:

THEBats said:
UFOs are real.  Whether or not there are aliens flying around in them is the debate.




Is it a debate?  I think of it more as a sort of delusion of grandeur.




Yes there is much to debate whether or not aliens have visited us.  Not much to debate on whether or not they exist.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: THEBats]
    #463788 - 08/19/10 10:49 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

THEBats said:
Quote:

DieCommie said:
Quote:

THEBats said:
UFOs are real.  Whether or not there are aliens flying around in them is the debate.




Is it a debate?  I think of it more as a sort of delusion of grandeur.




Yes there is much to debate whether or not aliens have visited us.  Not much to debate on whether or not they exist.




There is too much information to continue to ignore. If someone thinks
that these topics are brought up by people who have a delusional
outlook then that person needs to take a look in the mirror.


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: DeadHearts]
    #463791 - 08/19/10 10:53 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Yes there is much to debate whether or not aliens have visited us.




I dont think there is.



Quote:


Why dont you watch the video above in its entirety.




I wont watch it because videos are filled with biased information, emotional music and misrepresentation of people quotes.  Also they are an incredibly slow method of disseminating information.  I think videos about this kind of stuff proliferate because smart people read and dumb people watch videos.  Thats a dickish thing to say, and its a generalization but I cant help but find it to be the case.  Internet video clips are an opiate of the masses, and people who buy into their crap are brainwashed sheep.  Again, Im sorry if that offends you (I know it would offend me) - but this is an anonymous internet forum so I will call it like I see it.


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: DeadHearts]
    #463796 - 08/19/10 10:56 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

DeadHearts said:
Quote:

THEBats said:
Quote:

DieCommie said:
Quote:

THEBats said:
UFOs are real.  Whether or not there are aliens flying around in them is the debate.




Is it a debate?  I think of it more as a sort of delusion of grandeur.




Yes there is much to debate whether or not aliens have visited us.  Not much to debate on whether or not they exist.




There is too much information to continue to ignore. If someone thinks
that these topics are brought up by people who have a delusional
outlook then that person needs to take a look in the mirror.




If there's so much information then why is there so much doubt within the academic community?  Also there does exist commonalities amongst people typically engaged in conspiracy theories.  :sorry:  Not saying you guys are delusional, but there are definitely some personality traits that play into things.


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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: DieCommie]
    #463799 - 08/19/10 10:58 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

DieCommie said:





I wont watch it because videos are filled with biased information, emotional music and misrepresentation of people quotes.  Also they are an incredibly slow method of disseminating information.  I think videos about this kind of stuff proliferate because smart people read and dumb people watch videos.  Thats a dickish thing to say, and its a generalization but I cant help but find it to be the case.  Internet video clips are an opiate of the masses, and people who buy into their crap are brainwashed sheep.  Again, Im sorry if that offends you (I know it would offend me) - but this is an anonymous internet forum so I will call it like I see it.




Smart people read and dumb people watch videos?? What in the fuck is
wrong with you?? Do you know how incredibly arrogant you sound with
that statement alone??

You are afraid to look into the matter weather you read about it or
watch a fucking video. Because regardless or reading or watching the
INFORMATION is still there.


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: DeadHearts]
    #463800 - 08/19/10 11:01 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

DeadHearts said:
Quote:

DieCommie said:





I wont watch it because videos are filled with biased information, emotional music and misrepresentation of people quotes.  Also they are an incredibly slow method of disseminating information.  I think videos about this kind of stuff proliferate because smart people read and dumb people watch videos.  Thats a dickish thing to say, and its a generalization but I cant help but find it to be the case.  Internet video clips are an opiate of the masses, and people who buy into their crap are brainwashed sheep.  Again, Im sorry if that offends you (I know it would offend me) - but this is an anonymous internet forum so I will call it like I see it.




Smart people read and dumb people watch videos?? What in the fuck is
wrong with you?? Do you know how incredibly arrogant you sound with
that statement alone??

You are afraid to look into the matter weather you read about it or
watch a fucking video. Because regardless or reading or watching the
INFORMATION is still there.




He's not so much saying that as bringing up the persuasion factor behind video media.  Well, he did say that but he has a point.  There are much more persuasive techniques available to someone in videography rather than pure literature.


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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: THEBats]
    #463803 - 08/19/10 11:02 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

THEBats said:





If there's so much information then why is there so much doubt within the academic community?  Also there does exist commonalities amongst people typically engaged in conspiracy theories.  :sorry:  Not saying you guys are delusional, but there are definitely some personality traits that play into things.




Right now I will stay with on subject and that will be in regards to the last video I posted on crop circles. There is a ridiculous amount of information that has been gathered by credible people who have used
many different scientific methods to get an idea of how these things
are being made. I mean this stuff is right at ur finger tips and people
will still argue or refuse to acknowledge it. That is the thing here
I cannot understand.


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: DeadHearts]
    #463807 - 08/19/10 11:04 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I know how arrogant that sounds, I mentioned that in my post.  Videos are better propaganda machines than text.  The combination of their editing, music and special effects can 'woo' and 'ahh' viewers like no text can.  Plus they are so, so slow - it take them an hour to say what could be said in two paragraphs.

Im not afraid to look into any matter, every one of my many beliefs is tentative and subject to change.  I have looked into this matter many times over the years and have come to a conclusion.  My conclusion is that videos of this sort are delusional crap and the people who buy into them are foolish and being led around like sheep.

Yes I know that is arrogant sounding.  So what?


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: THEBats]
    #463808 - 08/19/10 11:05 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

THEBats said:
Quote:

DeadHearts said:
Quote:

DieCommie said:





I wont watch it because videos are filled with biased information, emotional music and misrepresentation of people quotes.  Also they are an incredibly slow method of disseminating information.  I think videos about this kind of stuff proliferate because smart people read and dumb people watch videos.  Thats a dickish thing to say, and its a generalization but I cant help but find it to be the case.  Internet video clips are an opiate of the masses, and people who buy into their crap are brainwashed sheep.  Again, Im sorry if that offends you (I know it would offend me) - but this is an anonymous internet forum so I will call it like I see it.




Smart people read and dumb people watch videos?? What in the fuck is
wrong with you?? Do you know how incredibly arrogant you sound with
that statement alone??

You are afraid to look into the matter weather you read about it or
watch a fucking video. Because regardless or reading or watching the
INFORMATION is still there.





There are much more persuasive techniques available to someone in videography rather than pure literature.




Yes that is true. But not very likely. As these formations are there
weather they have been video recorded or not. Its a terribly weak are
to keep it short here.


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: DieCommie]
    #463809 - 08/19/10 11:06 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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I know how arrogant that sounds, I mentioned that in my post.  Videos are better propaganda machines than text.  The combination of their editing, music and special effects can 'woo' and 'ahh' viewers like no text can.  Plus they are so, so slow - it take them an hour to say what could be said in two paragraphs.

Im not afraid to look into any matter, every one of my many beliefs is tentative and subject to change.  I have looked into this matter many times over the years and have come to a conclusion.  My conclusion is that videos of this sort are delusional crap and the people who buy into them are foolish and being led around like sheep.

Yes I know that is arrogant sounding.  So what?




So then Are you refusing to ignore the "text" that is also out there??


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: DeadHearts] * 1
    #463813 - 08/19/10 11:08 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

What amazes me is that some of the worlds top thinkers don't also share your viewpoint, what with all the evidence and what not.  :rolleyes: 

Sorry there just really isn't enough evidence.  I've looked through that vid and not one of those crop circles are out of the capabilities of someone to construct.

Have you seen vids where people do just that?

I even anticipate your retort, it's predictable.


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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:


Edited by THEBats (08/19/10 11:09 PM)


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Re: The official fringe sciences and ufo thread. [Re: DeadHearts]
    #463816 - 08/19/10 11:10 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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So then Are you refusing to ignore the "text" that is also out there??





Nope, I have looked at all forms of media on the subject - video and otherwise.  Like I said, I have considered this many times over the years.  And in my many considerations I have found internet videos to be the weakest and most pathetic attempts to convince me of all.

I think you have trouble realizing that two different people can look at the same thing and draw two different conclusions.  You do realize that right?  Just because the 'evidence' convinces you doesn't mean it must convince me (and vise versa).


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