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#430086 - 06/08/10 10:07 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fuckin assholes. Y'all been payin attention to any of the shit that's going on?
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Nope, fill me in sir.
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 Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: Inverted]
#430091 - 06/08/10 10:12 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Last I heard they only ended up making the spill larger. But at least they can suck it up and start making some cash on it.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
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Well, basically, in a nutshell...They've tried to "fix" the problem and keep fucking it up worse and worse and then lying to the public and scientists and everyone else about it. There's a new HD video out now that they've only released because of pressure from Congress n whatnot. They've basically fucked up VERY bad and are scared to admit how much oil is really coming out of the pipe because they have to pay for each barrel. Basically no fix in site. And it absolutely kills me to see the animals on television in the condition that they are. Birds covered in oil n shit. Makes me sad  , like seriously
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Last I heard they only ended up making the spill larger. But at least they can suck it up and start making some cash on it.
BP can start making cash on it??????
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What else are they gonna do with the oil they are siphoning off? Its still a business to them.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
#430111 - 06/08/10 10:30 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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What else are they gonna do with the oil they are siphoning off? Its still a business to them.
You are a fucking retard.
Does that look like they are siphoning that oil off??? You stupid son of a bitch.
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Well they said they were getting 6,000 gallons a day from the new dome, just going on what I know. If there is a conspiracy theory about this I'd love to hear it.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
#430133 - 06/08/10 11:00 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Whoa whoa easy brother
Thanks for the concern man, I appreciate it.
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Well they said they were getting 6,000 gallons a day from the new dome, just going on what I know. If there is a conspiracy theory about this I'd love to hear it.
There's no conspiracy theory, it is what it is. There's fuckin hundreds, make that thousands of animals dying and you're talking about them making money off of it. Go fuck yourself.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
#430135 - 06/08/10 11:02 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would hope they sell the oil they are siphoning off... They are gonna have a big bill when this is done. Plus, what else would they do with it? Store it somewhere?
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DieCommie]
#430138 - 06/08/10 11:06 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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The oil is in the fucking ocean...
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DieCommie]
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I've been staying very updated on this. Up to the minute actually.
FarBeyond, Dungness is actually right, although they made the spill larger, some how the oil they are siphoning off is actually being sold. I'm not particularly psyched that their making money off it, but the spills clean up could take years, and that's gonna be a lot of bank. I'm really upset about all of this. Being someone like myself who is so ocean minded, lives at the beach, looks at the water every day, and surfs... I'm really upset that bigger measures aren't being taken, but I am happy that Obama is "looking for whose ass to kick".
This oil could actually reach where I live by NOVEMBER. Right in the prime of hurricane season. No one should be turning their head at this, this is a serious manner. This is what could start a decay of a planet.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: The Pschyonaut]
#430142 - 06/08/10 11:11 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've been staying very updated on this. Up to the minute actually.
FarBeyond, Dungness is actually right, although they made the spill larger, some how the oil they are siphoning off is actually being sold. I'm not particularly psyched that their making money off it, but the spills clean up could take years, and that's gonna be a lot of bank. I'm really upset about all of this. Being someone like myself who is so ocean minded, lives at the beach, looks at the water every day, and surfs... I'm really upset that bigger measures aren't being taken, but I am happy that Obama is "looking for whose ass to kick".
This oil could actually reach where I live by NOVEMBER. Right in the prime of hurricane season. No one should be turning their head at this, this is a serious manner. This is what could start a decay of a planet.
Since when have they been syphoning off oil??? I haven't heard a word about that. And if they are syphoning it off, that makes me even more mad because they need to worry about fixing the fucking leak, not syphoning and selling.
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I've been staying very updated on this. Up to the minute actually.
FarBeyond, Dungness is actually right, although they made the spill larger, some how the oil they are siphoning off is actually being sold. I'm not particularly psyched that their making money off it, but the spills clean up could take years, and that's gonna be a lot of bank. I'm really upset about all of this. Being someone like myself who is so ocean minded, lives at the beach, looks at the water every day, and surfs... I'm really upset that bigger measures aren't being taken, but I am happy that Obama is "looking for whose ass to kick".
This oil could actually reach where I live by NOVEMBER. Right in the prime of hurricane season. No one should be turning their head at this, this is a serious manner. This is what could start a decay of a planet.
Since when have they been syphoning off oil??? I haven't heard a word about that. And if they are syphoning it off, that makes me even more mad because they need to worry about fixing the fucking leak, not syphoning and selling.
They've been siphoning off oil for about a week now. They've collected some 10 thousand barrels or something like that. This is the current image of the oil as of June 8th. This is just the approximate mass of oil, be minded that there are barrels more that are flowing under the sea level and just floating around.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: The Pschyonaut]
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Oh, just for a week. I didn't know that. Sorry DD  The whole thing just pisses me the fuck off. It's like they had no safety on the gun, know what I mean. Like if something went wrong, it's kinda like they would just handle it when it happened. I heard a quote earlier tonight from one of the higher ups at BP and he said "I wish I had my life back." They had one of the dead workers brothers in Congress talkin about that shit. That fucker should've chosen his words a little better. I swear I would beat the shit out of one of those BP fuckers if I saw them in person. I don't like how the fuckin wildlife is paying the price for this.
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Does this not look like 10x worse than before or is it just me...?
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: Inverted]
#430161 - 06/08/10 11:45 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's just a high def vid they wouldn't release before until now.
It is worse however, cuz they keep fucking up when they try to fix it.
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It looks alot worse but thats only because the containment cap on top of the well is blowing the well to the sides, displacement theory. Either way its still pumping out barrels upon barrels each and every day.
I'd also like to add a quick theory. There maybe a reason (insert higher power here) didnt want us to dig into the Earth in search of oil, maybe thats why its so deep and maybe this should show how humans are really, really fucking this planet to bits.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: The Pschyonaut]
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It looks alot worse but thats only because the containment cap on top of the well is blowing the well to the sides, displacement theory. Either way its still pumping out barrels upon barrels each and every day.
I'd also like to add a quick theory. There maybe a reason (insert higher power here) didnt want us to dig into the Earth in search of oil, maybe thats why its so deep and maybe this should show how humans are really, really fucking this planet to bits.
could be, never know
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Well, basically, in a nutshell...They've tried to "fix" the problem and keep fucking it up worse and worse and then lying to the public and scientists and everyone else about it. There's a new HD video out now that they've only released because of pressure from Congress n whatnot. They've basically fucked up VERY bad and are scared to admit how much oil is really coming out of the pipe because they have to pay for each barrel. Basically no fix in site. And it absolutely kills me to see the animals on television in the condition that they are. Birds covered in oil n shit. Makes me sad , like seriously
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Last I heard they only ended up making the spill larger. But at least they can suck it up and start making some cash on it.
BP can start making cash on it??????
yea they said on live TV, well, we are sucking it up now and the money made from that oil will help restore the habitat
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Does this not look like 10x worse than before or is it just me...?
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it is worse. when they cut the pipe they made the flow even better for the oil...thinking their cap was going to work
i could have fucking told you that shit isnt going to work without doing any of the shit theyve tried. brits are dumb.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: Don King]
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http://news.google.com/
You should check it out.
It pisses me off too FBD, this is another attack by mega-corporations on this world, this country and its people.
They HAVE LIED since day one about how much oil is there, I hope these fuckers are held fully responsible by our countries' judicial system 
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Worst possible case has always been August, when the relief wells are completed. That is still on schedule and there is really no way they can fuck it up.
But yeah, fuck them. If its not cleaned up before hurricanes touch down whole cities are going to be painted black.
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The gulf is fucked. Worse case scenario it leaks into the ocean currents, and gulf stream and kills florida and the eastern sea board off too. Also they're in the process, not bp but shell if I remember correctly, of scouting locations for arctic drilling...
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Worst possible case has always been August, when the relief wells are completed. That is still on schedule and there is really no way they can fuck it up.
But yeah, fuck them. If its not cleaned up before hurricanes touch down whole cities are going to be painted black.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: THEBats]
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I figure, whats fucked is fucked. No use complaining about it, lets use our kitchen chemistry skills to find a solution.
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Well no, things are still in the process of being fucked. Preventative measures still need to be taken, yet aren't as we have only an inkling at the full impact of the oil, especially take the undersea plumes and ocean currents into account.
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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: THEBats]
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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Well no, things are still in the process of being fucked. Preventative measures still need to be taken, yet aren't as we have only an inkling at the full impact of the oil, especially take the undersea plumes and ocean currents into account.
I'm glad I live in kansas.
But true, but I mean there isn't any way to make it so nothing will get fucked.
Because some shit I am sure already is.
Also, anyway this could cause a giant algal bloom?
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: THEBats]
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Exactly what I was meaning when I was talking about the plankton.
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No idea about that, also the dispersants they're using are just as toxic as the oil so the full effects of vast amounts of it being dumped into the gulf will also be unprecedented.
I feel like burning down a BP station right about now.
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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Exactly what I was meaning when I was talking about the plankton.
What exactly were you meaning?
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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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No idea about that, also the dispersants they're using are just as toxic as the oil so the full effects of vast amounts of it being dumped into the gulf will also be unprecedented.
I feel like burning down a BP station right about now.
Bad idea, most BP stations don't even carry BP gas.
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Exactly what I was meaning when I was talking about the plankton.
What exactly were you meaning?
If it kills to many of them, from this dispersant/oil mix, then the food web would collapse from the bottom up.
Apex predators will begin being more and more hungery fyi if it happens.
If a shark is hungry what do you think a beach looks like?
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FarBeyondDriven said:Basically no fix in site.
Worst possible case has always been August, when the relief wells are completed. That is still on schedule and there is really no way they can fuck it up.
But yeah, fuck them. If its not cleaned up before hurricanes touch down whole cities are going to be painted black.
Actually hurricanes would likley be good for the spill. It would aerate the water, which aids in the natural break down of the oil. The idea that the oil will cover the city inland isnt really substantiated by anything.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: THEBats]
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true. which is why you got to blow up a tanker. but then that would defeat the whole purpose.
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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: THEBats]
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yeah, they need to drill the arctic to get that few year's worth of US oil.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: THEBats]
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true. which is why you got to blow up a tanker. but then that would defeat the whole purpose.
Lol, an ecoterrorist blowing up an oil tanker would be so ironic... it deserves its own word.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
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"You betcha!"
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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
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The main problem here is that the dispersant will help the oil break down into the environment FASTER than if they had left it as a slick. Before long we will be seeing microscopic amounts of oil making their way up the food web to humans for decades to come.
Its basically poison to every living thing on the planet. Just because it doesn't look like its there, doesn't mean that its not gonna ALL be here for the next 30-50 years.
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The main problem here is that the dispersant will help the oil break down into the environment FASTER than if they had left it as a slick. Before long we will be seeing microscopic amounts of oil making their way up the food web to humans for decades to come.
Its basically poison to every living thing on the planet. Just because it doesn't look like its there, doesn't mean that its not gonna ALL be here for the next 30-50 years.
Check the videos of the plumes though. The dispersant is hiding the oil more than anything and just separates it into smaller droplets.
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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: THEBats]
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That's the point. They make it LOOK better while actually doing nothing to solve the problem. Just like after the Exxon Valdez, they still find oil under rocks, and in pockets along the coast line where it deposits.
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They are just NOW entering their 3rd (and potentially final) phase of environmental / economic recovery in Prince William Sound.
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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: THEBats]
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I heard yesterday that the entire clean-up effort is going to cost as much as BP itself is worth
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I heard yesterday that the entire clean-up effort is going to cost as much as BP itself is worth
100 billion dollars? All the estimates I have read put it at much less than that, at around 20-30 billion dollars. BP can likley afford to clean this up, pay off the fishermen and continue to make a profit.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DieCommie]
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LOL.
Ignorance is a cheap laugh.
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LOL.
Ignorance is a cheap laugh.
Well considering they will continue to be making profit as they are cleaning it up.
I would say that they will be just fine.
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This is where the ignorance mostly is.
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clean this up, pay off the fishermen
1. No
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2. Fuck no.
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This is where the ignorance mostly is.
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clean this up, pay off the fishermen
1. No
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2. Fuck no.
Lol, they are already being forced to do both.
Didn't obama fine them a few million just to start paying the fishermen back?
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I forget everyone isn't from the coast.
Most fisherman who we're effected by the Exxon Valdez DIED OF OLD AGE before they received any kind of compensation for the destruction of their fishery, effectively ruining their livelihood and bankrupting their business'. This was in a state where the economy, up before the oil boom, was basically supported by commercial fishermen.
Those that got their payments before dying, received on average about 40,000 dollars a piece, 20 some years later. I don't think I have to explain why this was not adequate payment.
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Im sure not everybody will be happy with the fines and litigation results. But they will certainly be held financially responsible for the clean up and restitution.
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The only one's who will be happy with it are BP.
Everyone else can go fuck themselves as far as this corporation is concerned. They will spend as much on lawyers as anything.
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I forget everyone isn't from the coast.
Most fisherman who we're effected by the Exxon Valdez DIED OF OLD AGE before they received any kind of compensation for the destruction of their fishery, effectively ruining their livelihood and bankrupting their business'. This was in a state where the economy, up before the oil boom, was basically supported by commercial fishermen.
Those that got their payments before dying, received on average about 40,000 dollars a piece, 20 some years later. I don't think I have to explain why this was not adequate payment.
Just because it happened that way before, does not mean it will not happen this time.
You are just assuming things.
And will all know what assuming things does.
It makes an ass out of YOU! 
But really, it is bad to assume things.
Because it is a fallacy of persuasion.
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The only one's who will be happy with it are BP.
Everyone else can go fuck themselves as far as this corporation is concerned. They will spend as much on lawyers as anything.
Lol, to bad obama can just keep fining them and giving the money to people affected.
They try to lawyer up the government really will just go LOL NO U!
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We'll see.  History seems to repeat itself.
Let's say I owned a business that made a profit out of raping this planet to begin with. Do I give a fuck if a bunch of poor fisherman can work? Hell no. I'm here to minimize loses.
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Dont think for a minute that smooth talking alabama lawyers arent going to gouge BP using alabama juries as well. It goes both ways.
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We'll see. History seems to repeat itself.
Let's say I owned a business that made a profit out of raping this planet to begin with. Do I give a fuck if a bunch of poor fisherman can work? Hell no. I'm here to minimize loses.
Exactly, but when the government forces you to. LITERALLY FORCES YOU TO, you will. Whether you want to or not.
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Also keep in mind BP made large contributions to the Obama campaign. As much as we would like to not believe so the law of reciprocity will play a role.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/05/bp.lobbying/index.html
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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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#430291 - 06/09/10 10:36 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Congress passed campaign reform to allow corporations to donate unbridled amounts of funds 
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Educate yourselves before you look like fools to real life people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon_Valdez_oil_spill#Litigation_and_cleanup_costs
Like I said, saying history repeats itself is really NOT A VALID ARGUEMENT.
You are assuming that a spill there, is anywhere near the same thing as one here.
The government has to listen to its voters, if they don't do anything. Then it is time to protest. Protest, protest, and protest. Make them listen, in this day and age it is crazy how easy it is to form an effective voice in today's world.
But whatever, one of us or the other is going to be proven wrong.
And honestly I could care less if I am wrong, but using the history alone as your proof does not work.
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Yep. And an unintended consequence will be foreign companies swaying American elections.
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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Wow man. this situation keeps getting worse.
This is good enough reason to pretty much drop the idea of drilling the arctic. I know if I was a gulf fisherman I'd either be thinking suicide or murder.
TBDS, I hope people do protest the governments inaction on this. Everyone needs to be held responsible, including the MMS offical's who were having coke and hooker party's with BP exec's before they drilled this well.
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this is a site worth looking at. you can see all the donations one receives and from who.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/search_donor.php
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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Wow man. this situation keeps getting worse.
This is good enough reason to pretty much drop the idea of drilling the arctic. I know if I was a gulf fisherman I'd either be thinking suicide or murder.
TBDS, I hope people do protest the governments inaction on this. Everyone needs to be held responsible, including the MMS offical's who were having coke and hooker party's with BP exec's before they drilled this well.
Inaction?
..... They have already been fined once.
That is not inaction.
To be inactive there must be no activity.
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If they were active in this they would have taken over from day one, HISTORY (I know you despise our past) has shown that these companies are not effective enough to clean up something of this magnitude. These "fines" are nothing more than tax deductions. Now if you want to tell me how to form my speech perhaps you should use a 
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If they were active in this they would have taken over from day one, HISTORY (I know you despise our past) has shown that these companies are not effective enough to clean up something of this magnitude. These "fines" are nothing more than tax deductions. Now if you want to tell me how to form my speech perhaps you should use a
To bad the government doesn't exactly have a department of "oil spills."
BP is an oil company, they are more qualified than any person the government probably has.
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The gulf is fucked. Worse case scenario it leaks into the ocean currents, and gulf stream and kills florida and the eastern sea board off too. Also they're in the process, not bp but shell if I remember correctly, of scouting locations for arctic drilling...
Ok now BP pisses me the fuck off too, and I think its bullshit that they arent doing more to clean this shit up. BUT nobody seems to reference the oil spill in the golf in 1979 that was like 5x more oil than has spilled now, it was on the Mexico part of the golf. They got a little lucky and the currents helped bring it out into sea and dissipate it. And oil is just long dead bugs and whatnot, well there are naturally occurring bacteria that do infact eat this oil up. ya it takes a long time but the golf WILL recover. And come on guys, GOD dident want us to drill into the earth so far? REALLY? thats just crazy, it obvious that the reptilian people caused the spill so we didn't drill into the center of the earth and find where they live!!!
AHhh BUBBLEHASH!!!! makes me say weird shit.....
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The gulf is fucked. Worse case scenario it leaks into the ocean currents, and gulf stream and kills florida and the eastern sea board off too. Also they're in the process, not bp but shell if I remember correctly, of scouting locations for arctic drilling...
Ok now BP pisses me the fuck off too, and I think its bullshit that they arent doing more to clean this shit up. BUT nobody seems to reference the oil spill in the golf in 1979 that was like 5x more oil than has spilled now, it was on the Mexico part of the golf. They got a little lucky and the currents helped bring it out into sea and dissipate it. And oil is just long dead bugs and whatnot, well there are naturally occurring bacteria that do infact eat this oil up. ya it takes a long time but the golf WILL recover. And come on guys, GOD dident want us to drill into the earth so far? REALLY? thats just crazy, it obvious that the reptilian people caused the spill so we didn't drill into the center of the earth and find where they live!!!
AHhh BUBBLEHASH!!!! makes me say weird shit.....
I am now ok with the smart ass comment you made in the other thread.
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If they were active in this they would have taken over from day one, HISTORY (I know you despise our past) has shown that these companies are not effective enough to clean up something of this magnitude. These "fines" are nothing more than tax deductions. Now if you want to tell me how to form my speech perhaps you should use a
To bad the government doesn't exactly have a department of "oil spills."
BP is an oil company, they are more qualified than any person the government probably has.
I don't put ANY faith in those that fucked up in the first place. Our nation certainly has talented experts in the field that could be hired to lead the clean up effort. Your arguments are foolish.
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If they were active in this they would have taken over from day one, HISTORY (I know you despise our past) has shown that these companies are not effective enough to clean up something of this magnitude. These "fines" are nothing more than tax deductions. Now if you want to tell me how to form my speech perhaps you should use a
To bad the government doesn't exactly have a department of "oil spills."
BP is an oil company, they are more qualified than any person the government probably has.
I don't put ANY faith in those that fucked up in the first place. Our nation certainly has talented experts in the field that could be hired to lead the clean up effort. Your arguments are foolish.
You just told me my arguement was foolish.
And yes our nation does have talented experts in this field.
They work for oil companies, you know like BP.
Do you really trust someone like FEMA to take care of this?
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This is why what you say is foolish:
(a) Those men and women working for THE OIL COMPANY have the company's interest in mind while at their job. It is in their job description to act as such.
(b) Those men and women working for THE PEOPLE have the people's best interest in mind while at their jobs. It is in their job description to act as such.
Clearly however, in this nation, corporations have been defined as people and as such the government is bound by law to recognize the entity known as 'British Petroleum' as a person and extend to them the rights guaranteed us all, and in a sense, it can be said that the government is working for the vested interests of BP.
(c) Those men and women working for THE ENVIRONMENT have the plants', animals', and future generations' best interest in mind.
I don't feel like going any further with this list so I hope it adequately eludes to my point. Not every geologist works for an oil company. There are plenty of qualified professionals that could act to lead this operation who do NOT receive a paycheck from a major oil company.
If we, as private citizens, or as a nation, simply sit back and "let the experts down at British Petroleum," handle this disaster then it will be the successive generations of this nation that will PAY the losses caused by this disaster to THEIR natural resources for which they will now not be able to depend upon to supplement this nation's livelihood. Are you getting the scope of it now?
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This is why what you say is foolish:
(a) Those men and women working for THE OIL COMPANY have the company's interest in mind while at their job. It is in their job description to act as such.
(b) Those men and women working for THE PEOPLE have the people's best interest in mind while at their jobs. It is in their job description to act as such.
Clearly however, in this nation, corporations have been defined as people and as such the government is bound by law to recognize the entity known as 'British Petroleum' as a person and extend to them the rights guaranteed us all, and in a sense, it can be said that the government is working for the vested interests of BP.
(c) Those men and women working for THE ENVIRONMENT have the plants', animals', and future generations' best interest in mind.
I don't feel like going any further with this list so I hope it adequately eludes to my point. Not every geologist works for an oil company. There are plenty of qualified professionals that could act to lead this operation who do NOT receive a paycheck from a major oil company.
If we, as private citizens, or as a nation, simply sit back and "let the experts down at British Petroleum," handle this disaster then it will be the successive generations of this nation that will PAY the losses caused by this disaster to THEIR natural resources for which they will now not be able to depend upon to supplement this nation's livelihood. Are you getting the scope of it now?
Those that work for a company have their own best wishes in mind, not who they work for.
People know that in the end, for the individual, your own well being should be your # 1 concern.
So the people that work for BP, will know it is in their well being to clean as best they will.
You just hate BP because they fucked up, that does not make the people that work for them any less qualified.
Also, seriously speaking....
Who are the experts in stoping an oil leak, and cleaning up the mess in the water.
I would think not a geologist, but I'm at a loss for their actualy job title.
For the leak engineer?
Oil rig engineer?
Hydrolics?
For clean up would it be chemists?
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First, I don't hate BP; my fiance just so happens to sell their gasoline.
Secondly, those who are hired to make decisions of large impact for the best interest of that company which pays them a check, do so in the company's best interest. If they do not, they will be out of a job. You see this is how capitalism works, my friend. If Joe Blow wants to have a conscience and do the "right thing" for humanity, he doesn't get a paycheck anymore. Those that get promoted within any company are those that are willing to look out for the best interests of the company.
My point here is that there is a conflict of interest in letting the company that caused the spill oversee it's cleanup efforts. BP dropped the ball. Early reports suggest that safety measures were compromised in favor of profit indicating irresponsibility and an impeachment of ethics but, we won't know anything for sure until an investigation into BP's internal affairs is concluded.
Can you not understand and concede to the conflict of interest I'm speaking of?
I haven't said that BP is guilty of ANY wrong doing. The potential exists however and as such they should not be the authority in charge of the clean up of their own spilled milk for I fear they might just try to shovel some of it under the rug, and not because they are the "Evil BP Corporation" but simply because it's in their best interest. Companies in this capitalistic economy are forced into the unethical decisions that are made every day in order to stay competitive.
It's simply economics, a place where ethics don't exist. I'm sorry. 
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: 13eetleJuice]
#430476 - 06/09/10 06:46 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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First, I don't hate BP; my fiance just so happens to sell their gasoline.
Secondly, those who are hired to make decisions of large impact for the best interest of that company which pays them a check, do so in the company's best interest. If they do not, they will be out of a job. You see this is how capitalism works, my friend. If Joe Blow wants to have a conscience and do the "right thing" for humanity, he doesn't get a paycheck anymore. Those that get promoted within any company are those that are willing to look out for the best interests of the company.
My point here is that there is a conflict of interest in letting the company that caused the spill oversee it's cleanup efforts. BP dropped the ball. Early reports suggest that safety measures were compromised in favor of profit indicating irresponsibility and an impeachment of ethics but, we won't know anything for sure until an investigation into BP's internal affairs is concluded.
Can you not understand and concede to the conflict of interest I'm speaking of?
I haven't said that BP is guilty of ANY wrong doing. The potential exists however and as such they should not be the authority in charge of the clean up of their own spilled milk for I fear they might just try to shovel some of it under the rug, and not because they are the "Evil BP Corporation" but simply because it's in their best interest. Companies in this capitalistic economy are forced into the unethical decisions that are made every day in order to stay competitive.
It's simply economics, a place where ethics don't exist. I'm sorry.
I'll agree that they want to do whats best for their job.
But how is not cleaning it up ASAP going to help BP at all.
It is completely in their best interest to clean it up.
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13eetleJuice said:
First, I don't hate BP; my fiance just so happens to sell their gasoline.
Secondly, those who are hired to make decisions of large impact for the best interest of that company which pays them a check, do so in the company's best interest. If they do not, they will be out of a job. You see this is how capitalism works, my friend. If Joe Blow wants to have a conscience and do the "right thing" for humanity, he doesn't get a paycheck anymore. Those that get promoted within any company are those that are willing to look out for the best interests of the company.
My point here is that there is a conflict of interest in letting the company that caused the spill oversee it's cleanup efforts. BP dropped the ball. Early reports suggest that safety measures were compromised in favor of profit indicating irresponsibility and an impeachment of ethics but, we won't know anything for sure until an investigation into BP's internal affairs is concluded.
Can you not understand and concede to the conflict of interest I'm speaking of?
I haven't said that BP is guilty of ANY wrong doing. The potential exists however and as such they should not be the authority in charge of the clean up of their own spilled milk for I fear they might just try to shovel some of it under the rug, and not because they are the "Evil BP Corporation" but simply because it's in their best interest. Companies in this capitalistic economy are forced into the unethical decisions that are made every day in order to stay competitive.
It's simply economics, a place where ethics don't exist. I'm sorry.
I'll agree that they want to do whats best for their job.
But how is not cleaning it up ASAP going to help BP at all.
It is completely in their best interest to clean it up.
Have you watched the video about the dispersal agents being used? They're spraying chemicals on the oil slick that disperse the oil. Now to the typical layman and otherwise uninformed general public, this might seem like a good idea. They see oil. BP sprays chemical to DISPERSE the oil. Public doesn't see big oil slick anymore... I guess it must have disappeared, HOORAY BP!
...nope, it's just dispersed across a LARGER VOLUME OF WATER.
That's just the most recent case in point and granted, I'm not geo-marine-biologist-type but I suspect that the use of this dispersal agent will eventually come to be known as a complication to the REAL clean-up efforts when they begin which are generally long term strategies. One could use Google to research previous spills both in the U.S. and around the globe to get an idea of how long it actually takes to clean up all of the mess.
I'm not an expert! I can't argue that what BP is doing isn't the best way to go about it. I'm only pointing to the elephant in the room that is the conflict of interest I've spoken of.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: 13eetleJuice]
#430490 - 06/09/10 07:00 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, when a company loses half of its market value since Apr 22, and being probed for legal misconduct, it's safe to suggest cleanup is in their best interest. To omit any responsibility because, "it's just not their fault" is not sound in regards to defending them. The CEO of BP will be fired. That's a fact.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: 13eetleJuice]
#430495 - 06/09/10 07:02 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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13eetleJuice said:
First, I don't hate BP; my fiance just so happens to sell their gasoline.
Secondly, those who are hired to make decisions of large impact for the best interest of that company which pays them a check, do so in the company's best interest. If they do not, they will be out of a job. You see this is how capitalism works, my friend. If Joe Blow wants to have a conscience and do the "right thing" for humanity, he doesn't get a paycheck anymore. Those that get promoted within any company are those that are willing to look out for the best interests of the company.
My point here is that there is a conflict of interest in letting the company that caused the spill oversee it's cleanup efforts. BP dropped the ball. Early reports suggest that safety measures were compromised in favor of profit indicating irresponsibility and an impeachment of ethics but, we won't know anything for sure until an investigation into BP's internal affairs is concluded.
Can you not understand and concede to the conflict of interest I'm speaking of?
I haven't said that BP is guilty of ANY wrong doing. The potential exists however and as such they should not be the authority in charge of the clean up of their own spilled milk for I fear they might just try to shovel some of it under the rug, and not because they are the "Evil BP Corporation" but simply because it's in their best interest. Companies in this capitalistic economy are forced into the unethical decisions that are made every day in order to stay competitive.
It's simply economics, a place where ethics don't exist. I'm sorry.
I'll agree that they want to do whats best for their job.
But how is not cleaning it up ASAP going to help BP at all.
It is completely in their best interest to clean it up.
Have you watched the video about the dispersal agents being used? They're spraying chemicals on the oil slick that disperse the oil. Now to the typical layman and otherwise uninformed general public, this might seem like a good idea. They see oil. BP sprays chemical to DISPERSE the oil. Public doesn't see big oil slick anymore... I guess it must have disappeared, HOORAY BP!
...nope, it's just dispersed across a LARGER VOLUME OF WATER.
That's just the most recent case in point and granted, I'm not geo-marine-biologist-type but I suspect that the use of this dispersal agent will eventually come to be known as a complication to the REAL clean-up efforts when they begin which are generally long term strategies. One could use Google to research previous spills both in the U.S. and around the globe to get an idea of how long it actually takes to clean up all of the mess.
I'm not an expert! I can't argue that what BP is doing isn't the best way to go about it. I'm only pointing to the elephant in the room that is the conflict of interest I've spoken of.
Ok dude.
Can we settle this arguement by me just saying I see where you are coming from?
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Btw, I meant no offence when I remarked that your arguments were foolish. I do, say, and think many foolish things every day. It was a rather untactful approach at conversation and for that I offer my apology.
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: 13eetleJuice]
#430502 - 06/09/10 07:07 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Btw, I meant no offence when I remarked that your arguments were foolish. I do, say, and think many foolish things every day. It was a rather untactful approach at conversation and for that I offer my apology.
I think many impossible things every day.
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Seven impossible things before breakfast even? 
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: 13eetleJuice]
#430505 - 06/09/10 07:09 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seven impossible things before breakfast even?
 pft, ten things before brunch.
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I would go back and read the three pages I just missed, but here's today's update. Suction has began, almost giant vacuums that can separate water from oil and just suck up oil, supposedly. There are only ten so far but BP wants the coast guards approval before making more or some bullshit like that. We shall see, in the mean time join surf rider, and for all those with long hair go cut it all off, bag it, and google the Charity you can donate it too to clean up oil spill. Cut off about 5 inches the other day and sent it in, now not only did I save the environment, but bitches are loving the new do, ha ha.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/09/day-51-latest-oil-disaster-developments/?hpt=T2
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: The Pschyonaut]
#430532 - 06/09/10 07:53 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Damnit I just shaved mine off like a week ago literally...
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