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This motherfucker
    #354356 - 01/27/10 11:58 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Just said to me "Cops have the right to any means necessary." When we were talking about that cops/KBI shot multiple times this guy for running from them.

And then tried to call me stupid when I said they don't.

The kid that was talking shit is one of my HS friends brothers, and fat/weak/blind.


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #354364 - 01/28/10 12:10 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

i have a lot of sympathy for the blind.  brush it off man.  People are so stupid it's not worth the time sometimes.


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #354426 - 01/28/10 04:14 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah for real man. Don't even engage that level of stupidity. Their naivety and arrogance will bite them back some day anyway.


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #354445 - 01/28/10 09:18 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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i have a lot of sympathy for the blind.  brush it off man.  People are so stupid it's not worth the time sometimes.



I don't treat anyone special for problems. Everyone should pull their own weight, and act correctly. (The reason I don't like handicapped people that are unable to work.) I don't personally have a prob with them, but I think we should waste people and time on them if they can't work. Because what use is a person that can't work and help further mankind? (wow that was off on a tangent.)

But then again I think we should kill all the mentally challenged people in the world, so I'm a little unrealistic; people are way to sentimental about people. The dude just pissed me off making fun of a dude, He eventually shut up. After I said "hey shut up before I walk the whole half a block to you're house and have a game of beat the fat boy" like 20 other people threatened to kick his ass for it. :rofl:

Just pissed me off, because the dude is in the hospital with like 7 bullet wounds and being disrespected.


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #354446 - 01/28/10 09:21 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

On a funny note, the kid that was saying shit fell and broke his collarbone a couple months ago.

He didn't like fall and land on it, he tripped, caught himself, then suddenly broken collarbone.


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #354451 - 01/28/10 10:18 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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FurrowedBrow said:
i have a lot of sympathy for the blind.  brush it off man.  People are so stupid it's not worth the time sometimes.



I don't treat anyone special for problems. Everyone should pull their own weight, and act correctly. (The reason I don't like handicapped people that are unable to work.) I don't personally have a prob with them, but I think we should waste people and time on them if they can't work. Because what use is a person that can't work and help further mankind? (wow that was off on a tangent.)

But then again I think we should kill all the mentally challenged people in the world, so I'm a little unrealistic; people are way to sentimental about people. The dude just pissed me off making fun of a dude, He eventually shut up. After I said "hey shut up before I walk the whole half a block to you're house and have a game of beat the fat boy" like 20 other people threatened to kick his ass for it. :rofl:

Just pissed me off, because the dude is in the hospital with like 7 bullet wounds and being disrespected.




That's easy to say when you don't have a disability.  Hopefully, you are never involved in an on the job injury that lays you out permanently.  It happens daily, everywhere. 

As for exterminating the mentally challeneged, that's hitler talk.  but i can see eye to eye with it.  I have a cousin that is laying in bed right now in texas.  He hasn't talked for over 20 years.  He can't do anything for himself.  no communication with the outside world at all.  my aunt leaves a tv on for him.  but they are keeping him alive to fullfill their own needs.  that's what pisses me off.  Let him have some peace in death.  This is why people have a living will.  obviously he didnt.  but that's a really fine line in our society that I dont often cross.


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #354462 - 01/28/10 11:26 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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That's easy to say when you don't have a disability.  Hopefully, you are never involved in an on the job injury that lays you out permanently.  It happens daily, everywhere. 

As for exterminating the mentally challeneged, that's hitler talk.




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Re: This motherfucker [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #354508 - 01/28/10 02:05 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Thebooedocksaint said:
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FurrowedBrow said:
i have a lot of sympathy for the blind.  brush it off man.  People are so stupid it's not worth the time sometimes.



I don't treat anyone special for problems. Everyone should pull their own weight, and act correctly. (The reason I don't like handicapped people that are unable to work.) I don't personally have a prob with them, but I think we should waste people and time on them if they can't work. Because what use is a person that can't work and help further mankind? (wow that was off on a tangent.)

But then again I think we should kill all the mentally challenged people in the world, so I'm a little unrealistic; people are way to sentimental about people. The dude just pissed me off making fun of a dude, He eventually shut up. After I said "hey shut up before I walk the whole half a block to you're house and have a game of beat the fat boy" like 20 other people threatened to kick his ass for it. :rofl:

Just pissed me off, because the dude is in the hospital with like 7 bullet wounds and being disrespected.




That's easy to say when you don't have a disability.  Hopefully, you are never involved in an on the job injury that lays you out permanently.  It happens daily, everywhere. 

As for exterminating the mentally challeneged, that's hitler talk.  but i can see eye to eye with it.  I have a cousin that is laying in bed right now in texas.  He hasn't talked for over 20 years.  He can't do anything for himself.  no communication with the outside world at all.  my aunt leaves a tv on for him.  but they are keeping him alive to fullfill their own needs.  that's what pisses me off.  Let him have some peace in death.  This is why people have a living will.  obviously he didnt.  but that's a really fine line in our society that I dont often cross.




My mom is disabled, I'm not saying I don't love here and that I want her to die. Hell; even after she was in the hospital over thanksgiving break, and again during new years, and now she has MRSA in her lungs and is currently going to the hospital twice a day for an IV to help fight the MRSA. (Which is really bad since her disability has to do with her lungs.) But really what do mentally challenged people do for the human race? Other than having been in a Medically induced coma for a couple months a few years ago she is still intelligent. She can do SOME work. And she does not require constant aid from other humans to survive. The people I have a problem with is the ones that require 24/7 assistance because they are just to mentally retarded. The people that are assisting them could be doing much more productive things rather than looking after someone who will probably not do anything productive ever; and never able to help humanity as a race.

I like to stay away from emotions though, it is what hampers us as a race from achieving greatness. We are a race of animals that like to bring the weak up to mediocrity, and also drag the great down to it as well.

Plus if I ever was out of a job permanently; I would want to die anyways. I believe the only thing important in life really is whether or not you were able to make the world better. And my living will is going to state this.W hat if being kept alive keeps us from moving on to an afterlife? And although I'm not the most religious person ; I still believe in an afterlife of some form. (although I realize this is just a coping mechanism, but I can't just not believe in it.)

And I really don't believe the whole "Hitler was evil" stuff. Nobody can be evil, in real life people have reasons for doing what they do, and to those people what they are doing is the right thing. Morality is objective. For example, in western culture cannibalism is wrong, in some tribes cannibalism is a way to overcome grief. They don't see it as wrong, they are just doing what they have always done.


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #354512 - 01/28/10 02:31 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

i don't have time to adequately convey how I feel about this before class so i'm just posting for now so hopefully I remember. But this thread has taken a turn towards fucked...


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: tsollost]
    #354513 - 01/28/10 02:35 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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i don't have time to adequately convey how I feel about this before class so i'm just posting for now so hopefully I remember. But this thread has taken a turn towards fucked...




Yea it has. But it happens. :rofl:

I don't really care if people like what I say or not. If I feel like expressing my views I will, and you can always hide a thread if you don't like it.

Can you give me one non-abstract reason why we should keep mentally retarded individuals around if they require other individuals to use their time to be their keepers?

-edit-

Plus my points I made are pretty well established, but I like a good debate. Just nobody get their panties in a bunch.

On a side note I just successfully argued Pro-Trickledown economics in debate practice.


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: Ben18]
    #354516 - 01/28/10 02:52 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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That's easy to say when you don't have a disability.  Hopefully, you are never involved in an on the job injury that lays you out permanently.  It happens daily, everywhere. 

As for exterminating the mentally challeneged, that's hitler talk.




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not cool




I'm not sure what you mean with what you quoted there.  What's not cool?


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #354517 - 01/28/10 02:54 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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But then again I think we should kill all the mentally challenged people in the world, so I'm a little unrealistic; people are way to sentimental about people.



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Re: This motherfucker [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #354520 - 01/28/10 03:02 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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i don't have time to adequately convey how I feel about this before class so i'm just posting for now so hopefully I remember. But this thread has taken a turn towards fucked...




Yea it has. But it happens. :rofl:

I don't really care if people like what I say or not. If I feel like expressing my views I will, and you can always hide a thread if you don't like it.

Can you give me one non-abstract reason why we should keep mentally retarded individuals around if they require other individuals to use their time to be their keepers?

-edit-

Plus my points I made are pretty well established, but I like a good debate. Just nobody get their panties in a bunch.

On a side note I just successfully argued Pro-Trickledown economics in debate practice.





I've had this conversation (I thought with you!) before.  I can't remember what thread it was in though.  We all want the human race to advance our technology and our understanding of everything.  This is a population control issue you're getting at i think.  No longer are we living in a world of survival of the fittest.  Now it's if you have money, give some to the guy on the corner asking for it so you can feel better about yourself.  There are a millions of people who are a drain on our society.  Of course we don't need those people.  I think i pretty much agree with you man.  It would be nice to only allow intelligent/reasonable people to breed, but that's unrealistic.  But i mean, how is the world to agree on what kind of personality and physical characteristics determine what the 'perfect' human would be.  Hitler just took things into his own hands and decided for himself.


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #354566 - 01/28/10 05:17 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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i have a lot of sympathy for the blind.  brush it off man.  People are so stupid it's not worth the time sometimes.



No one has sympathy for stoney.


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: Triptonic]
    #354620 - 01/28/10 07:26 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

cops aint nuthin but hoes and tricks.


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #354627 - 01/28/10 07:53 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Plus if I ever was out of a job permanently; I would want to die anyways. I believe the only thing important in life really is whether or not you were able to make the world better. And my living will is going to state this.W hat if being kept alive keeps us from moving on to an afterlife? And although I'm not the most religious person ; I still believe in an afterlife of some form. (although I realize this is just a coping mechanism, but I can't just not believe in it.)

And I really don't believe the whole "Hitler was evil" stuff. Nobody can be evil, in real life people have reasons for doing what they do, and to those people what they are doing is the right thing. Morality is objective. For example, in western culture cannibalism is wrong, in some tribes cannibalism is a way to overcome grief. They don't see it as wrong, they are just doing what they have always done.



Bro you are so off-base it's not even funny,many jobs do fuck-all and in fact hurt the human race, the argument that by working you are helping the human race and by not you are hurting it is absurd.  It's also a very american way of thinking.  Participate in the great american economy and you are part of the solution, refrain from participating and you are the problem.  FUCK that.

People absolutely can be evil, john wayne gacy, ted bundy wtf are you talking about.  How would you argue they were not evil. 

The whole thing of those tribes using cannibalism to overcome grief is they eat the bodies of already dead relatives because they don't become possessed by evil spirits.  They don't murder ppl to do it.

Why you even think that this is comparable to hitler is beyond me.  He killed 6 million jews alone and countless other innocents you really think he didn't know any better?  That's retarded.  He was just a sociopath.

Seriously dude think about what you say instead of just talking out your ass like this. You generally seem pretty chill, and i thought you were better than this tripe.


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: Doitagain]
    #354641 - 01/28/10 08:10 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

i'm with the jew on this one


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: Doitagain]
    #354647 - 01/28/10 08:14 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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The whole thing of those tribes using cannibalism to overcome grief is they eat the bodies of already dead relatives because they don't become possessed by evil spirits.  They don't murder ppl to do it.



I don't get why I said cannibalism; I meant head hunting.
The tribe I am talking about goes out far enough not to catch anyone they know, sets a trap, kills them, chops their head off, and then throws the head away. And this is what they do instead of mourning death.

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Bro you are so off-base it's not even funny,many jobs do fuck-all and in fact hurt the human race, the argument that by working you are helping the human race and by not you are hurting it is absurd.  It's also a very american way of thinking.  Participate in the great american economy and you are part of the solution, refrain from participating and you are the problem.  FUCK that.




Really? So jobs don't serve some purpose for mankind? We just do them to do them? I believe we build bombs to defend ourselves, work in restaurants to cook food for people, build houses for people to live in, create drugs for people to get high with, create cement to make structures, research to find new breakthroughs in science....

Yea totally they don't help the human race at all.

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People absolutely can be evil, john wayne gacy, ted bundy wtf are you talking about.  How would you argue they were not evil. 




I would argue that within their minds they were doing the right thing, it was the logical thing to do.

Yes they did something wrong, but from their perspective it wasn't wrong.

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Why you even think that this is comparable to hitler is beyond me.  He killed 6 million jews alone and countless other innocents you really think he didn't know any better?  That's retarded.  He was just a sociopath.




It is comparable because he wanted to kill everyone that was mentally handicapped. And gypsies too. Among other ethnic groups. People just mainly remember about the Jews. And yes yet again, within his mind all of his actions were the correct thing to do from his point of view.


Anything else?


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #354653 - 01/28/10 08:18 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Oh btw he hated homosexuals too.


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Re: This motherfucker [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #354658 - 01/28/10 08:34 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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The whole thing of those tribes using cannibalism to overcome grief is they eat the bodies of already dead relatives because they don't become possessed by evil spirits.  They don't murder ppl to do it.



I don't get why I said cannibalism; I meant head hunting.
The tribe I am talking about goes out far enough not to catch anyone they know, sets a trap, kills them, chops their head off, and then throws the head away. And this is what they do instead of mourning death.

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Bro you are so off-base it's not even funny,many jobs do fuck-all and in fact hurt the human race, the argument that by working you are helping the human race and by not you are hurting it is absurd.  It's also a very american way of thinking.  Participate in the great american economy and you are part of the solution, refrain from participating and you are the problem.  FUCK that.




Really? So jobs don't serve some purpose for mankind? We just do them to do them? I believe we build bombs to defend ourselves, work in restaurants to cook food for people, build houses for people to live in, create drugs for people to get high with, create cement to make structures, research to find new breakthroughs in science....

Yea totally they don't help the human race at all.

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People absolutely can be evil, john wayne gacy, ted bundy wtf are you talking about.  How would you argue they were not evil. 




I would argue that within their minds they were doing the right thing, it was the logical thing to do.

Yes they did something wrong, but from their perspective it wasn't wrong.

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Why you even think that this is comparable to hitler is beyond me.  He killed 6 million jews alone and countless other innocents you really think he didn't know any better?  That's retarded.  He was just a sociopath.




It is comparable because he wanted to kill everyone that was mentally handicapped. And gypsies too. Among other ethnic groups. People just mainly remember about the Jews. And yes yet again, within his mind all of his actions were the correct thing to do from his point of view.


Anything else?



Well regarding that tribe, obviously they are very primitive.  Xenophobia is a natural human conditon that some of us have overcome to varying degrees.  To a certain extent its a survival instinct.  I don't think that the behavior of the tribe is justified, though to them it is as they don't see someone not of their tribe as a person.  Just because they can justify it, doesn't mean it is not immoral.  People who have attained a higher sense of morality, have gotten over their xenophobia enough to see outsiders as human. 

I'm not saying no jobs help mankind, i'm saying it's fallacious to assume just because you have a job you are doing good for mankind. There are some jobs that help mankind, and some that hurt it and some that do bad and good.  I'm not saying its not good to have a job, i'm just saying having a job doesn't automatically mean you're part of the solution and not the problem. Some professions are absolutely part of the problem. (lawyers anyone?)

And I would argue that they were not doing what they thought was moral, but that they were acting selfishly in service of their own twisted impulses.  It's not that they didn't know the people they killed and tortured were suffering it's that they just didn't care.

We all have demons in us, impulses that tell us to kill, hurt, attack etc... Some people don't let these demons get the better of us and some do.

I was actually saying it's not comparable to the tribe headhunting/cannibalism thing.  Even the other thing it's not right to compare it to hitler though, because even though he did kill the mentally handicapped, he also killed many of the most productive and successful people in his society (the jews)  He wasn't weeding out the weak and keeping the productive he was weeding out non-aryans regardless of what they did for society.

"yet again, within his mind all of his actions were the correct thing to do from his point of view."

Wrong, his actions were the correct thing to do to further and purify the german race and weed out the undesirables, not the correct thing to do ethically.  He was well aware of the suffering and pain he would have caused these people, he was far too smart not to be, he just didn't give a shit because they were not like him.  That's xenophobia, bigotry, and ethnocentrism, all of which are evil.

Every human being has a logical capacity to reason whether or not his actions are harming another.  That's the basic sense of our morality, you can only do shit like hitler or john wayne gacy if you ignore your sense of morality, not because you don't have it.

oh and there is no need to tell me he also killed gypsies retards and homos, i clearly said 6 million jews and countless others.  They fall into the category of countless others.


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ltd said:
fgts just don't understand

keep the shit


Edited by Doitagain (01/28/10 08:36 PM)


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