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250w CFL, Bagseed Accident (RE-VEGETATED) *Updated 7/8*
    #391346 - 03/28/10 07:05 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

The original introductory post was long-winded and I've decided to place it within a quotation frame and move it to the bottom of the post, saving it for nostalgic purposes and replacing it with all the particulars in a format that's easier to view at a glance.

GENETICS:
Bag seed. The buds were packed FULL of seeds. The 'high' wasn't that great; very mild.

GERMINATION:
The seeds were germinated on a plate between a wet paper towel. Germination rate: 100%. One dozen of the healthiest looking germinated seedlings were planted in a vermiculite-filled egg carton on 12/24/09 and then another dozen on 12/25/09.

VEGETATIVE GROWTH:
The seedlings were placed on top of my computer tower, by a window(in January), and underneath a single 23watt CFL where they received approximately 18 hours of light per day for their first several weeks of life.

Once pre-flowers emerged, I chose the healthiest females and moved them into a veg chamber, to begin training them underneath of a screen for a ScroG grow, where they received 24 hours of light per day for the next few weeks prior to initiating flowering. By this time, the lighting has been increased to six 23watt CFL's for 138 total watts.

FLOWERING:
Flowering was initiated on approximately 03/14/10 and after ten days one of the two females that had been chosen to fill out my screen started producing a few male flowers so I removed it from the garden. This left me with only one female growing beneath the screen which we later named 'Meowy Wowwy' and another female who was uncooperative in training and wanted to just grow straight upwards which I named 'Stretch Budstrong.' Later, when I remodeled my grow space, I eventually removed the screen altogether and chose to tie down individual branches as needed.

From here out, this first post will be updated with "highlights" of pictures throughout the flowering cycle. To find more detailed information, to track the evolution of the grow, or for more pictures please read the individual posts throughout the entire grow log as that is where I have chosen to record most of the relevant data.

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FLOWERING DAY 31 (approximately)
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As you can see, I've built a new cabinet. Flowering chamber up to with mother's and clones below. I've also increased the lighting to 265 watts within the flowering chamber.







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FLOWERING DAY 51(approx.)
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"Meowy Wowwy" (LST)


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FLOWERING DAY 63 Beginning of Week 9
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I've spent the week flushing my plants and after a short halt in growth, they're back at it again. This time it looks like buds are forming on top of buds. Outgrowths of patches of fresh new calyx's are sprouting from the sides and all over existing bud growth. It's fun to watch, each day. :thumbup:









...and as you can see, I've got a few new arrivals. :vaped:


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FLOWERING DAY 70 Beginning of Week 10
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Original Post: My accidental introduction.
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13eetleJuice said:
Hi all! First-time grower here, popping my cherry by accident. I never meant to make this grow log. Truth be told, I never intended to grow anything at all. I'm a smoker, not a grower.

Right around christmas time this past year, after reading the growery all month and feeling in that festive spirit, I decided to try my hand at germination ONLY. I merely wanted to germinate a few seeds. I was just going to throw them away no matter what the result, or so I thought at the time.

The seeds I chose to use were from a cheap bag and the high wasn't even all that great. The buds in this bag were FULL of seeds. I mean this stuff must have gotten pollinated REALLY early into flowering. I was bitching the entire time I was smoking it.

Well I tossed about 50 seeds onto a plate, sandwiched between a paper towel wet with tap water and set the plate on top of my computer tower. I checked on them from time to time and added water when necessary. It wasn't long before EVERY SEED produced a little root! I had read that generally you should expect 50% germination rate and I was experiencing 100%. "What does this mean?", I thought. Ahhh, what to do!?

So, I plant a dozen of the healthiest looking seeds in egg cartons (lids removed) filled with a 70/30 mix of moistened vermiculite and soil; One seed per half-egg-shaped vermiculite (cube?). I did this on christmas eve and again for another dozen on christmas day. I then placed the egg cartons on top of my computer tower and under a single 23w CFL (a lamp on the computer desk).

Fast forward to pre-flowers! I watered the vermiculite/soil cubes daily and in a few weeks my little seedlings were ranging from 6" to 12" tall and beautiful. Pre-flowers were now beginning to show and I was elated each time I saw another plant exhibit a pistillated calyx. First one female, then two, then five, then ten. EVERY plant is female! Ahhh, what to do!? "This can't go on any longer," I think to myself. "I can't grow weed!"

Inevitably, I chose the best six or eight plants and transplanted them into dixie cups. As a potting medium I chose to use a bag of potting soil that had been sitting under my porch for at least the past several years (What? I wasn't gonna spend any money on this experiment, hehe.) I'm not sure which brand it was as the plastic bag itself seemed to be biodegrading and fell apart wherever I touched it.

I shoveled the dirt into my bucket, picking out the clumps of dead roots that had grow into and throughout the bag from the nearby weeds and grasses of years past, I assume. The dirt was dark, very dark, black and stained the skin of my hands even when just slightly tilling it. Now I don't know if this is a good or a bad thing but I thought, "Fuck it, I'm an experiment!"

Now some of my plants seemed to be tall and lanky, others shorter and bushier, while some just looked weak or runted. I chose the best plants for my chosen needs as by this time I had just finished making the screen that I would use for my first ScroG GROW!!

I transplanted the short bushy plants into 1 gallon containers and discarded the rest (that was so fucking unbelievably hard.)

A few weeks into flowering now and my best female just went herm on me so I chopped it down. I'm left with one nice female that is filling out my screen and one female that I'm letting grow straight up in a 14"x14"x48" tall cabinet.

For vegging I used a constant 24h of light per day, switching to 12/12 for flowering.

I've been having a tough time with temperatures. Unfortunately, it ranges from 86-92F whenever the lights are on.

I fed the plant MiracleGro tomato fertilizer 18-18-21 during the veg cycle (it's what I had around the house :shrug:). Now that I'm into flowering and planning on seeing this thing through to the end I've purchased Schultz Plant Food Plus 10-15-10 (hardly a step up, I know.)

The screen for the ScroG cabinet is a weave of fishing line, forming 2x2in. squares.

Lighting & Air (ScroG cabinet)
6 x 23w 2700k CFL's, 1 x 17w 6500k Florescent Tube
1 x Holmes Air Purifier with homemade activated carbon filter cartridge to scrub smells
1 x 5in. fan to circulate air across ballasts and upper vegetation
1 x 10in. exhaust fan to pull air out of the cabinet.

Lighting & Air (Tall Cabinet)
4x 23w 2700k CFL's
1 x Holmes Air Purifier to circulate air.

Total Cost so far, less electricity = $25 for the activated carbon, Schultz plant food, and a pH Test Kit which included pH Up & Dn. Everything else I've had lying around the house. :shrug:

So that's about it, I guess. I know you guys seem to enjoy grow journals but, I must apologize as I seem to have written a grow novel. I just hope I don't get sent to prison for posting this shit on the fucking internet!




Edited by 13eetleJuice (07/08/10 07:54 PM)


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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #391378 - 03/28/10 07:31 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

you arent going to prison

the police dont use the internet very much...too dumb, and their sticky fingers from the donuts keep them from being efficient on the net

thats why drug dealers use the internet and the mail to sell drugs

looks good though :thumbup:


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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #391518 - 03/28/10 08:55 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

LOL dude what the fucking fuck? you did that on accident? Man those bitches are BEAUTIFUL! If I was near you in real life right now I'd totally give you a hug.

fucking sweet looking. I'm cracking up so hard right now that you did that completely on accident


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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #391740 - 03/28/10 10:57 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah no shit, :rofl:

"Officer, it was TOTALLY on accident, like seriously dude."

:rofl:

Looks good though man, keep gettin it.  You're doing something right.


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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #394413 - 04/02/10 04:22 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Wow, the plant that I'm growing straight up has stretched a shit ton in four days! It doesn't fit in the cab anymore! Ahhh, what to do!?
...obviously, I'm going to have to build a bigger cab tomorrow. I mean, at this point, that's all I really can do. :shrug: :bonghit:



The ScroG is doing great, imo, but what do I know? I'm just wingin' it over here.


I've counted at least 30 separate budsites coming off of either the main stem or primary branches. I hope that's what they're called, at least. I'll make that my task for tomorrow on my smoke break. Learn dope nomenclature!



I don't know how many hours I've wasted just gazing at my plants, haha! I'm so excited; and are those trichomes I see in that second picture!?


She's a cam-whore :shrug:


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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #394477 - 04/02/10 11:02 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

That plant is nicely scroged for your first time man :thumbup:

Your plants all look green and healthy to me, keep it up and you should be smoking your own sweet sweet buds in no time. :awesome:


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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #394478 - 04/02/10 11:03 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Doing great so far, yes, those are trichomes in that picture. Keep an eye on 'em, they'll be growing.


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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: DieselB]
    #396676 - 04/05/10 09:51 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

FLOWERING DAY 21 (I guess :shrug: :smirk:)

I built... err, fabricated?? umm, I threw together a new cabinet, wallpapered with a stack of printer paper and elmer's glue for the flat white win, kindergarten-style boiiyyyyy!



Other than that, the ScroG's coming along nicely, I think. :grin:



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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #397026 - 04/06/10 02:09 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Last night after posting the update, I decided to trim a couple of the lowest branches from the standing plant (I'm gonna have to name these damn things :facepalm:). These small, weak looking shoots off of the main stem were starting to lighten in color, yellowing slighting.

I assume the plant was cutting off nutes to the area because of lack of light? No wait, I don't assume shit. I don't know what it was doing but it looked like they were following the pattern of elder fan leaves that I've observed yellowing and falling off.

Anyways, I decided it needed a trim and thought I'd try my hand at cloning. I know that my plants are in flower but, I was just gonna throw these away anyhow so... Yeah, I'm bored so here goes nothing.

I used Schultz Take Root, rooting hormone (a powder). I planted the hormone coated stems into straight vermiculite, trimmed the leaves, then placed them under inverted Solo cups for humidity.

I don't actually expect to see them take root but, I didn't expect any of this so far. :shrug:





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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #398067 - 04/08/10 12:29 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I have seen some that use nothing on their cuttings and have damn good results, considering. I bet they'll root for ya, just mist 'em here and there and they should do fine.


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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: DieselB]
    #398397 - 04/08/10 06:42 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Yah, taking rootings from a flowering plant is not the best idea, but it can work.


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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #398717 - 04/09/10 04:13 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, I wish I would of found this Grow Journal earlier....very nice dude. I really like your set-up inside that modified cabinet....and only 150watts for that big ass plant? That's gusty....

And it looks a lot my plant. In fact, we are almost on the *exact* same day of flowering....in other words, our plants are flowering together! Mines on Flowering Day 20 (Started March 20).

I wonder which will finish first, yours or mine. I think it will be a race...wanna bet on who will win?....what's the scheduled date of flowering?  I guess it could be on the Main Post, I better check....

Edit: I just realized your the "It was an accident" guy....that was funny...:lol: You should of left the title! Or was it a April Fools joke? If so, nice! :thumbup: If not, double nice! :thumbup::thumbup:

Looking forward to this one.... :sunny:
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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #398948 - 04/09/10 05:43 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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TrueHerbCrystal said:
only 150watts for that big ass plant?




Yeah, I don't want to raise my electric bill too much. I'm poor.

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TrueHerbCrystal said:
That's gusty....




Gutsy*?

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TrueHerbCrystal said:
wanna bet on who will win?




I have nothing to wager.

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TrueHerbCrystal said:
what's the scheduled date of flowering?




Sorry, I don't understand your question. If perhaps you're asking when I think the plant will be ready for harvest, I have no idea. It's just bag seed. :shrug:

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was it a April Fools joke?




Nope... so, I take these two (:thumbup::thumbup:) then? :beetlejuice:


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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #399057 - 04/09/10 10:28 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

All fair answers!

Sorry I insulted your 150 watt set-up. I didn't mean to say it was a bad choice, I was just curious on your choice in watts. I forgot there are other compounding factors when people set-up their grows. My bad 13eetleJuice.

But Since you Scogged instead the standard "just grow it" approach (like i did), my bet is that the lighting will be sufficient....

As for the bet, it was not for money, just for fun, like "who will it be" bet. My bet is on your plant: it looks more developed. And with the Scogged, me think its going to accelerate the flowering because of the improved focused lighting of yours....

I see you're doing bagseed, again, another one of my wrong assumptions....

And you definitely deserves those 2 :thumbup::thumbup:. Beautiful growing. I love that training you did on that flowering one: very professional and well-guided. Is this your first time doing a Scrog grow?

Whatever the case, I'm impressed! I'm taking notes on how to improve mine from yours....

Keep up that Good Work. :smile2::thumbup::thumbup:
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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #399407 - 04/10/10 07:58 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

26 Days of Flowering

Not that I really needed another update in just five days but, I'm fucking stoked people!! I'm growing herb in my closet!!! FUCK YEAH!

How's it looking guys? Do you think it's still doing good for 26 days in or is the my lack of light starting to show in the plant growth now? I've tried to compare with pictures of other peoples logs but, I just don't have an eye for it yet. :shrug:

Well, enough talk; here's my plant!



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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #399421 - 04/10/10 08:59 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Damn 13eetle, if this was a mistake/accident then you need many more of them!

I can see the where the lack of light is inhibiting fatty nugs. You should do OK though. I'm very impressed.

A 400W is like an extra $10-20 on the light bill. I barely notice it and electricity rates here are some of the highest in the nation. If you can do that with a 150W then you should consider upgrading.

You're gonna be a very happy camper in the near future. After you smoke your own weed you won't look back. I eat this shit up. :munchies:


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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: DrGreenThumb]
    #399427 - 04/10/10 09:15 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I was afraid you'd say something like that.

I agree though, with all the extra fans that I'm having to run just to keep six low-watt CFL ballasts barely under 90F I think I could go with a small HPS bulb in a home-made cool tube and come out about the same on the electric bill.

If this grow continues to go well through till the end I may just upgrade for next time... wait, NEXT TIME!? Ahhh!!! No, no, no! :nono: I'm NOT a grower! :banghead: Not even an accident farmer!!




Yeah, so... I guess I'm in the market for an HPS system now. :facepalm: :lol:
CFL's are a gateway drug!


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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #399436 - 04/10/10 09:28 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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CFL's are a gateway drug!



:rofldrunk:

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13eetleJuice said:
... wait, NEXT TIME!? Ahhh!!! No, no, no! :nono: I'm NOT a grower! :banghead: Not even an accident farmer!!





The first hit is always free mofo. Welcome to the club. Better make a list. :devilslist:


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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: DrGreenThumb]
    #402208 - 04/15/10 09:53 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I've spent the past few days working tirelessly to build a half-way respectable grow cabinet for my new hobby. :nono: :grin:

Here's a shot of the whole closet with the curtain pulled back and the flowering cabinet closed. The lower portion which I have yet to install doors, will be my veg chamber for mothers and clones.


The door is hinged at the top and propped open with a metal rod. :shrug:


This is my makeshift veg chamber for The Lone Clone. I plan to enclose this one just as the one above, I just have to find the time. :sigh:


This plant had been previously trained for a ScroG grow but since this is the only suitably ScroG-able female to mature, I have removed the screen. With just one plant, it's much easier for me to tie down individual branches LST-style than to deal with a screen.


Stretch Budstrong here keeps outgrowing every damn cabinet I build before I can even get the finishing touches on it. I've still got clearance enough to raise the light another 12 inches, but if it grows more than that I'll just have to bend it over I suppose. I never topped this plant. I suppose I should have. Is it too late to do so now or will it likely stop growing on it's own soon? It's only in a 1 gallon plastic jug.


As you can see I've still got a lot of work to do. My next endeavor will be to cover the walls with some reflective surface. I'm not sure what I'll use yet. I'd buy some mylar but, yeah I'm not working and the wife is putting her paycheck towards the bills so... I might be wall-papering with printer paper and kiddie glue again!!

More updates soon!


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Re: I didn't mean to do this... [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #402486 - 04/16/10 08:31 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

amazing work dude, especially since its your first grow and that came by accident


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