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Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) Day 20 Veg
    #233263 - 05/27/09 10:50 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I recently just move and got access to a small greenhouse with electricity () so the growing is on baby. My philosophy with this grow is to keep it as simple as possible because in the past trying to do a hydroponic thing without really knowing what I was doing made it really not fun. I've researched quite a bit and I was consider myself having a limited amount of knowledge and some crossover knowledge from my time with shrooms, so I feel fairly confident this will be a successful grow.

To start off with

My equipment I'm using for this grow

- 125 watt CFL with hood for the Veg process

- An extra smaller (25 watt I think?) 6500k spectrum fluoro for the first week and to suppliment lighting

- A 1000 watt HPS big fucking light for the Flowering process

- Fox Farm Ocean Forest Soil (heard nothing but good things about this soil in my research)

- 3 gallon pots (I'm going to keep the plants in the same pots all the way through)

- Superthrive, Hydroguard, PH UP, PH Down, some other stuff I can't think of right now

- Skunkberry seeds purchased from the Vancouver Seed Bank. (http://www.vancouverseedbank.ca/cata...roducts_id=210) I picked Skunkberry due to my personally liking it's genetics and it's reputation of being fairly forgiving to grow.

So today is about day four in the process. I'm going to try to grow three plants to begin with. The last three days my little friends have been germinating in paper towels in a special incubator with a heating mat underneath them. Today I'm going to put them in soil and put them out in the green house.

The past few days I've spent cleaning out the greenhouse which has been vacant for at least two or three years and the past owner left a whole range of pots and other stuff in there that I didn't want to use. Also the place while being relatively clean had a ton of cobwebs and other stuff in there that frightened me. As a former shroom grower I am absolutely obsessed with keeping a clean area and destroying any contaminants before they fuck with my little friends. Also from previous projects I know the more work you put in at the beginning the more problems you eliminate for yourself down the road. So the last two days have been sweeping out, throwing away, and Lysoling every inch of the room, also yesterday I set off a bug bomb in there. Hopefully any annoying little fuckers that want to play with my plants are in buggy heaven now.

I'm about to go put my seeds into soil and dial in my green house, hopefully this all goes well but I'm excited.

I'm hoping to complete this process 70 or so days as I'd like to harvest in late August.

Edited by Guerrilla (06/28/09 02:30 AM)

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #233264 - 05/27/09 10:51 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Day Four

So my seeds in soil. Unfortuantely only two out of my three seeds seemed to germinate. The third seed looks to have cracked but nothing came out. I threw the two germinated seeds into the three gallon pots and they're going to be under 24/7 light for the first week or two until they become strong enough to change the light cycle down to 18/6. It'll be good to change the lighting cycle down during the hottest parts of the day here.

The seed that didn't germinate I've put in a pot half full of soil (It all kind of worked out since I only had enough soil for about 2 1/2 of my pots) and put it on the roof of my greenhouse. I doubt it's going to have much of a chance to live as the environment where I live isn't really condusive to quality marijuana growing. However, I think it'll be a good chance to see what kind of pests will attack a unprotected pot in the open, so I have a better idea of how and what I'm protecting my greenhouse against outside.

The temp inside the greenhouse may be a problem as we approach the summer months as yesterday it was swinging up into the 100s. I put a huge industrial fan on a timer to go during the hottest parts of the day. The fan was able to bring the temp down to the high 80s but I'm still extremely concerned about temp swings and how that's going to effect my little friends. I think I'm going to have to keep a constant vigilance on this.

I'm going to put up black plastic over the windows soon to eliminate light leaks. The only reason I haven't done it yet is I haven't been able to find a staple gun (I'm a cheap motherfucker haha) and also I have to think all the natural light coming through the windows is beneficial to my little friends in this stage.

I'm also concerned about humidity as it's too low. I understand the sweet zone for humidity for marijuana is between 50% to 80%. My humidity is hovering around 45% If this continues for a few more days I shall do something about this. Maybe put a humidifer in there.

My humidity is on average around 45%
Temp is on average between 70 and 90 degrees

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #233265 - 05/27/09 10:51 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Day Five

I'm pretty sure I killed my little friends :frown: I haven't been around the last day or two to check on them. When I went to check on them the temp was near 100 degrees and the soil was bone dry. My associate who I asked to turn off one fan that was on a timer decided to turn over every fan in the room which shot the temp up and humidity down. It's my own fault for starting this when I couldn't give constant vigilance and before I knew the ins and outs of my greenhouse... but oh well

I'll keep waiting and hoping they come up. I'll probably give it until Saturday before I declare it a loss and try again. I'm kind of upset but oh well, you got to make mistakes to learn.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #233266 - 05/27/09 10:51 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

So the award for the dumbest fucker of the day award goes too...

*drum roll*

GuerrillaRed!

Who-Zah!

The greenhouse had a ton a of windows... that open... with screens... that when open get the temp in the greenhouse down to a perfect 75-80 range...

You think I would've noticed that spending a couple days out there cleaning it out and getting it ready Ah well, first grow in a new room no worries.

Anyway the room is cool temp wise and beautiful now as a gentle breeze is blowing on my pots. I can't imagine my seeds are still alive or at the least too happy with all my fuck-ups so far but hopefully they're still sailing along. I'll give 'em until Saturday to see sprouts before I try again with a new batch. In my previous attempts I had several fuck ups as well before I actually nailed the sweet spot for shroom and weed grows. I got plenty of time, plenty of supplies, and a really bitchin' secure grow room so no worries.

I'll report back if anything new pops up.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #234570 - 05/31/09 12:29 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I decided to scrub my first attempt, it's been a couple of days. I don't feel good about the conditions in the greenhouse, I have some security fears, and it looks like something actually dug into the soil and pulled out the seeds (what the fuck?)

Alright attempt #2

I have four seeds soaking in water as I type this and today I'm going to blackout my greenhouse. I made a couple of rookie mistakes in the beginning. To start with I was around during the first couple of crucial days which was absolutely foolish on my part. There were crazy temp swings, low humidity, and just generally poor conditions that could've been easily fixed if I had been around enough to watch and make sure everything was cool.

Number two is I didn't know my greenhouse, it's temp swings, or habits before I attempted to grow in there.

And number three when I showed up at 4 am the other night, it looked like a UFO was landing in my backyard with how bright the growlights were.  :cruelworld:

Number four I tried to start this grow in three gallon pots which are way too big to be manageable (I now get way people bump up in pot size through the grow)

So hopefully this second attempt will be done right. I'm blacking out the windows by nailing up black plastic sheeting over there.

I'll soak my seeds over night then put them in rapid rooters. Do you guys think I should try to paper towel germinate them or let the rapid rooters do the work?

Thanks

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #235121 - 06/01/09 05:26 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Alright guys

I got the seeds germing in paper towels... I dropped one of the seeds and it fell through the crack of the floor in my green house :banghead: but at the first sign that they cracked I'll throw them in Rapid Rooter plugs and get them under some lights.

I've also put up black plastic over ever window in my greenhouse and from the outside you can't really tell so I don't have any security fears anymore.

Hope this works.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #235324 - 06/01/09 10:56 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Since we got a couple of days before (hopefully) anything interesting happens, I guess I'll show you guys a couple pics of my grow room.



Here's my grow room



Da Nutes!



My veg lights. A 125 watt CFL and a 25 watt flouro



My BFG 1,000 watt HPS light



My seeds hanging out in a germination station



A script and storyboards I'm working on for a movie

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #236541 - 06/04/09 09:18 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Now I can't even get my seeds to germinate. I'm getting extremely frustrated :mad2:

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #236681 - 06/05/09 11:54 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Woke up this morning and one of my twelve seeds had germinated

Could not be happier. I hope some of the other twelve pop as well but at this point I'm just happy to be making some progress. I threw the germinated seed into one of those Rapid Rooter plugs after dunking it a few times in some PH balanced water. It's now sitting in my germination station with the 25 watt fluoro on it and a comfortable 79 degrees.

Moving inside was the best move I could've made. The temp has been a consistent 77-85 inside my germination station (thank you jesus) and I feel much more confident now. I'm pretty sure I blew up the other seeds with a ridiculous temps they had to face but I still got six more that didn't face those temps out there that I hope pop.

Unfortunately I've run out of my quality beans and I'm having to use bag seeds now but right now it's about learning and getting the process down so I can become a better gardener.

Anyway that's the update from here. I'll keep you guys informed.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #236765 - 06/05/09 05:52 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Here's hoping this round goes better! Good luck!

As for your windows, have you looked into shade-cloth? If you double or triple layer it, it should be near impossible to see through while still giving you some airflow. Don't have any experience with it personally, but it sounds better than a black plastic bag.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Audz]
    #236775 - 06/05/09 08:59 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I'm actually going to move my grow inside and probably just do it in my bedroom or in one of my extra rooms here. It's so much easier and I'm kind of too the point of saying fuck the greenhouse. I may do flower out there but right now I'm not at all confident in that place as a viable place to grow.

Thanks so much for the good vibes and the advice. If I do come around to using the greenhouse, I'll for sure look into shade-cloth. :thumbup:

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #236787 - 06/05/09 10:04 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Another seed has germinated! This is so exciting. I think from my limited knowledge is that the seeds outside in the greenhouse were having a rough time with the heat. I started five different groups of seeds each days. Two were exposed to the ridiculously horrible temp swings and three from inside. What's exciting to me is the seed that just germinated was from the batch I thought I torched with 110 degrees. It seems that now that the seeds are in the proper environment, they're starting to pop. A couple more look like they could pop soon. This is great!

So I got two out of twelve now hanging out in rapid rooters in the germination station doing their thang. And it looks like for now most of the problems I was having earlier are past. :whoo: On to the next round of problems and frustrations lol.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #237285 - 06/07/09 05:54 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Success!

Got home from a camping trip this afternoon and went into my room to discover two beautiful sprouts come from the the rapid rooter cubes and several more seeds germinated. Unbelievable! Those little sprouts absolutely shot up, it's incredible how much they grew in just a day.

I'll post a more detailed report and pics later but I'm exhausted so I'm going to catch a nap.

83 degrees in the germination station
46% humidity

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #237498 - 06/08/09 02:01 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Day 8



They're starting to pop like they got the blood lust. I simply cannot believe the progress they've made in one day. Switching to a more suitable climate was such a money decision. I learned from mushroom growing that looking at your grow all the time can only hurt it and frustrate you but I do take a look ever couple of hours or so. It's unbelievable that every time I look at them, they've made noticeable progress. Just in the time between my earlier post and this time, one plant that I was worried about because of it being bent over at a dead looking angle has shot up like Superman and a third sprout has appeared. By the way, these rapid rooters are a big fucking win. My seeds seem to be really responding to them and they're really easy to use and work with. I'm not sure how to water them or keep them moist, I'm going to research it right after this post. However, my plants look really happy right now so I don't want to fuck with them. I know over-watering is a hardcore n00b mistake and as evidence with the first page of this post, I've already made a lot and I'd like to steer clear of as many more as I can. The one thing that surprised me today was the temp swing when putting a 125 watt fluoro directly above my plants (I'd always heard you can place CFLs inches away from the plants without a temp swing, but that's not my experience. The plastic box my plants are in right now probably has something to do with it and I'll keep track of this as this goes along but just wanted to note it here.) The temp swung up as much as 15 degrees into the high 90s which really concerned me. I rearranged my grow space and placed a fan on the lights to keep the temp in an optimal range but that's something to keep in mind in the future.



What my germination station looks like right now with the two fluoros on it.

80 degrees
43% humidity

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #237689 - 06/08/09 05:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

WOW!!! Look at the progress in 15 hours! I'm telling you man, these plants got the blood lust. I'll definitely transplant them into some small pots with soil tomorrow but so far these rapid rooters are the big fucking win.



I know you all do this every day and it's mundane for you but man I'm creating life in my closet, it's amazing to me :grin:

78 degrees
40% humidity

Edited by Guerrilla (06/08/09 05:29 PM)

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #237788 - 06/08/09 10:25 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I'm getting a little concerned as the leaves on my plants have been drooping. Some more than others.

This one is really bad



I don't know if it's something I shouldn't worry about or if it's a problem. I haven't watered the plants since dunking the rapid rooters in water and only now just misted thinking they may be thirsty (they popped up early yesterday and I haven't watered them) I also this may think it's because of my low humidity (always around 40%)

Should I be concerned?

But man they're growing like crazy, they're growing so fast that I'm actually a little concerned that they're going to be pushing against the plastic top on my germination station when I wake up in the morning. I can't wait to transplant these babies in the morning. I'm going to go with a 20% coco coir, 10% perlite, and 70% seedling start mix to avoid water problems and hopefully keep these babies maintaining their blood lust.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #237827 - 06/08/09 11:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

those just look like the baby leaflet.. those shrivel up once the plant starts growing. can trim them, and the first set of leaflets that come out after it gets into veg stage


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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: helmet]
    #237865 - 06/09/09 02:34 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks Helmut, you were right. They actually look much better now a few hours later. :thumbup:

Just went out to my greenhouse to get a little vaped out and think about the next step in this process. I came up with a cool idea to hang and adjust my lights in the closet for the rest of the veg process, came up with a idea to hang my temp gauge, and also mixed up some PH balanced water for misting my plants tomorrow. Eariler this evening when I check on my plants, two of the rapid rooters felt dry so I dropped some PH'ed balanced water with a eye dropper on both of them and the plants seem happy.

I used zip ties to hang my 25 watt light in the closet which makes total fucking sense and so simple. I'm probably one of the dimer ones on this board but I've been fighting with the ridiculous light hanging methods that come with the lights. Why do they make 'em so impractical and fucking flimsy. Here I'm trying to hang a 20 pound $350 dollar light and they send along skinny fucking pieces of tin that bend and easily fall out of the holes if you don't exact a precise combination of zen mastery and hulk hogan pressure on both sides to lift and hang the bitch. Not to mention the ridiculousness of try to raise and lower the thing. I'm sure all of you are laughing at my stupidity right now (I used to try to use 20 ft dog chains for my lights... yeah I was masochist) However zip ties seem to make the most sense. Number one because they won't suddenly decide to go bitch cakes and drop the light on your foot (...which hasn't happened to me... multiple times... making me scream out... like a bitch) or worse drop it on the floor and break it. Plus you just have to pull 'em tighter to raise and to readjust the lights lower, just cut one off and put a new one in. Fucking simple... at least for me right now.

By the time I came in from getting vaped out, and took one last look for the night. I was amazed that one of the plants was already pushing against the plastic of the germination station. Amazing how well that all worked and how much they exploded in the last 36 hours. I hope I can have as much luck with the rest of the grow as I have for the last two days.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #238062 - 06/09/09 03:42 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

About to transplant hours into soil in an hour or two. The plants are just screaming in growth right now, it's amazing. I've sent this afternoon rounding up everything I need for soil. It took about five stops but here's what my soil is going to consist of

25% FFOF
25% FF Happy Frog Soil Conditioner
30% Coco Coir
20% Perlite
And a sprinkling of Dolomite Lime.

I tried to find Happy Frog potting soil all day but everywhere I went was soil out. I was surprised to find that Ace Hardware carries the entire Fox Farm line for cheap. Also I'm pissed off that Miracle Gro Perlite is a scourage on the gardening consciousness as I had to go to four or five stores today trying to find non-Miracle Gro perlite (Fred Meyers baby)

Anyway I'll be back in awhile with pics

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #238099 - 06/09/09 06:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Just transplanted into small soil containers and give the plants a bit of water. A lot of them were drooping and hanging at weird angles but they look infinitely happier and healthier now. The transplanting process was quite delicate, I was really worried about hurting the root sticking out of each rapid rooter but it's been a little while and they seem to be fine. In the future I was place germinated seeds in rapid rooters already in soil so as to avoid this unnecessary step. But it's a learning process and I've learned a lot and my plants still seem happy.

I'll post pics in a little bit.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #238601 - 06/11/09 12:28 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)


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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #238603 - 06/11/09 12:36 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Good luck buddy!!! :smile: Hope everything goes smooooth.


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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Yungpunk]
    #238609 - 06/11/09 12:46 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you man :thumbup: :flowerchild:

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #238629 - 06/11/09 02:25 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Also since people are reading here. In that last picture you'll notice a rubbermaid tub with hydroton and two hoses running into the bottom of it. What that is, is a bubble bucket typically used for mushroom growing which is said to help with raising humidity. I have been concerned very much with the low humidity that my plants are getting which is on average 39% to 41%. I under stand plants in the early stages like this need much humidity in the early stages to promote growth. The bubble bucket only seems to raise the humidity by a few points to up around 45%. I'm thinking about taking the plants and putting them in the actual bubble bucket but I'm worried that it could do the same thing as water a plant in a container with no run off holes. I could maybe put it on a rack above the hydroton, but I don't want to make any mistakes until I know for sure. I'm also using one of those accurite temp/humidity meters you get at home depot, so maybe it's not a accurate? I'm wondering if I should be concerned with about the humidity and what your thoughts on this may be.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #238748 - 06/11/09 10:13 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH that's hiarious. an air pump running into a rubbermaid tub with hydrotron in it.... is close to what i have too. lmao. for my PF cakes anyways. i also use the same size tubs by themselves for bulk when my buddies start asking me for them for the 4th of july and summer months.

BUT i've noticed it stays a little more humid, and less water gets pooled up on the aluminum foil i use for the cake bottoms when i put a 2" layer of pearlite on top of the hydrotron.


not to throw your grow log off topic. but Youuuuu said it not me.

and as far as humidity, IMO, just mist alot if you're worried its too low.. my room stays around 25-30 humidity constantly... i mist a few times a day on the vegging stuff anyways.

Edited by helmet (06/11/09 10:17 PM)

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: helmet]
    #238755 - 06/11/09 10:51 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Cool baby that's kinda been my line of thinking but I'm glad to hear from someone with knowledge and experience. :thumbup:

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #238990 - 06/12/09 08:48 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)



Watered for the first time today until there was run off from each cup. Plants are looking healthy and happy. :thumbup:

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #239589 - 06/14/09 01:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)



:whoo:

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #239661 - 06/14/09 05:01 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

looks nice so far!


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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: helmet]
    #240048 - 06/15/09 11:26 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Day Eight Veg

I readjusted the lights and the plants seem to explode in terms of maturity growth in a matter of hours. It was amazing last night as I smoked a couple of bowls every once in awhile and when I come back in I would notice obvious growth and more resilient take no prisoners attitude from the plants. I think they were stretching earlier and I was mistaking that for progress. Oh well though, the plants look happy as hell.

I need to remember to water them tomorrow. Right now I'm misting three times a day and watering until I get run about 10% run off every other day with PH balanced water and a couple drops of Superthrive. I figure with the Coco Coir in the soil mix and my n00bness, this is the best system for ensuring I don't fuck something up. The plants seem happy so I'm going to wait for them to tell me I want some water. I'm pretty sure it'll be in the morning.

With the new placement of lights I've had some real temp issues which has been annoying. I've switched a 20/4 light schedule a couple days ahead of time than what I was planning to avoid the warmest parts of the day. I was planning to veg for two weeks under 24/0 and then switching to 20/4. No worries though. I placed a small fan next to my plants pointing up at the light which also seems to be helping. My temp range is now around 79-85. I freak the fuck out every time it goes over 85. Today while adjusting lights and fans, I felt like I was the Captain in Das Boot staring at my temp gauge knowing certain doom was coming. But it's all good now.

With everything considered it's been surprisingly easy so far. Like they say an ounce of preparation is worth a pound of cure. I really think it was wise to invest the time in researching temps, humidity issues, soils, and lighting schedules.









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    #240288 - 06/16/09 10:35 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

The start of a beautiful grow.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: KaptKid]
    #240360 - 06/17/09 05:53 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Day Nine



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    #240493 - 06/17/09 07:59 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

82? i'm not questioning you more myself. my stuff rarely gets above 80, unless i can't help it.


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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: helmet]
    #240564 - 06/17/09 10:59 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I've read the optimal temp for marijuana growth is 75 degrees and that every degree higher makes the plant lose 10% of it's photosynthesis (some word that's scientific) and that's why you have to keep it under 85 degrees or you risk stress plants and getting hermie or males. I hope I'm not perpetuating a retarded rumor or myth which the marijuana growing community seems to be so full. However, most of the resources I've come across (I kind of used the Stoned Free video on Google as a bible because it's so simple) say 75-79 is optimal while 80-85 is liveable. I'd like to get my temps down into the mid 70s but it's been a struggle just to keep it in the low 80s.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #240568 - 06/17/09 11:14 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

if you co2 enrich, you are at the perfect temp. just a thought.

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    #240811 - 06/18/09 04:42 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I don't have an enclosed enviroment and I have to think any benefit from co2 would be minimized. Also the cheap way for co2 from what I've read is rotting fruit in a 2 liter bottle with some water and sugar. I don't know if I'm willing to deal with the smell of that. I'm willing to take a reduced yield just to get these plants all the way through. I do appreciate the advice though and please fill me in if I'm wrong. I did research for about a half hour last night on your suggestion and found that it didn't really work for me.

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I'm going to get some more lights soon for my plants. They look healthy and happy but I'm starting to get somewhat paranoid that they're growing a little slow. It's all good though I'm not complaining as they look ridiculously happy right now and don't seem to be having any problems. It's been ridiculous chill the last two weeks having these plants growing in my room. It's been cool looking over at them every once in awhile and watching them slowly grow up. I like this hobby a lot. I also have amended my watering routine. I water every other day until I get run off and then on the off-days I like to spray with a spray bottle to keep the surface moist. I just want my plants to have the best environment and life that I can give them and I constantly worry about whether they're getting too much water or not enough. I also have to say that my soil mix has been a big fucking :thumbup: as this has been rather effortless so far.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #240841 - 06/18/09 05:52 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

More light would be good, they're looking a bit stretchy.

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    #241001 - 06/18/09 11:16 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

yeah i think they are going a bit slow too, im not sure ill look at mine here soon and see how big mine where at that age. im bout to smoke a bowl now though so ill be back.


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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Yungpunk]
    #241019 - 06/19/09 01:52 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I appreciate the advice and you guys dropping into the thread :thumbup:

I added 3 more 6500k fluoros today and managed to configure the fans in such away that the average temp is around 75 degrees. I'm really concerned that my plants get the best conditions possible and I hope they're cool with the fucking around that's gone around the last few days. My room is so bright now that it looks like there's a UFO landing in my closet. I'll post pics tomorrow.

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    #241028 - 06/19/09 02:22 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

they should be loving you if you got the temp down AND brought in more light.


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    #241120 - 06/19/09 02:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks man :thumbup: Let's hope so. By the way I've looked in on your GJ a few times and found it to be a good resource, so kudos back to you. Only reason I haven't commented in your thread is I'm noobish so I feel it's better to read more than write.

On that note, I'm beginning to get concerned about my plants. They seem to be in a sort of shock, like they're minds are going crazy. Their growth rate has slowed down expotentially and when I look at other grow journals and pics of their plants at the age mine are, they look a little more mature. I'm nervous because this could be the sign of a potential problem. I'm going to spend an hour or so researching this but just for amusement I'm going to list off some theories I think this happening. There's also seems to be some bruising around the upper middle of the stem (I never touch my plants) so I'm a little worried about that as well. The plants seem to be developing new leafs below their main levels and there seems to be a lot going on there but it looks rather mushed together. I know I know pics are better than words and I'll post some pics within a hour or two.

1. This shock my plants are in seemed to start around when I switched the lighting schedule from 24/0 to 20/4. I think my plants might be tripping about being the temp swing when they're sleeping. The temps get down to low 70s high 60s when lights are out. I've read that the plants dig that but maybe they don't or I misunderstood.

2. With my soil mix perhaps my plants need more food in their water as my soil mix doesn't provide enough. My soil mix was only about 50% actual good soil for them and the rest was for watering issues. Maybe I should add some Flora Micro to their waterings?

3. I recently started vaping out around them. Maybe they're concerned for their own plight as I'm smoking their family in front of them?

4. I usually have Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell on in my room. Art Bell is a conspiracy radio show about UFOs and Ghosts. They say talking or playing music to your plants makes them happy. Maybe my plants are freaking out like they're tied down in A Clockwork Orange as they're forced to listen to conspiracy radio all day?

Anyway I got some reading to do. Pics soon.

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    #241153 - 06/19/09 04:01 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

As far as temps go, anything more than a 10 degree drop from the high to the low can cause plant growth to slow. And from what i've noticed with my plants, they grow in spurts. They seem to not be doing much, then they shoot up, then they chill for a bit and fill out, and then shoot up again. Your sprouts look like mine at 2 weeks. Hope this helps, and good luck.

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    #241172 - 06/19/09 05:18 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you Integra :thumbup: you always have good information and contributions.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #241189 - 06/19/09 06:17 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Just trying to return the favor of all the people that have helped me. Keep it updated to because I check all my threads almost daily, so I'll try to help when ever I can.

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    #241871 - 06/21/09 11:27 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Day 14



This plant...

I named Neda... This is my favorite plant and seems to be maturing and growing faster than the other. However today while watering my plants, I accidently dropped Neda. However the plant just looked at me like "What motherfucker? What?" and aside from being a little bent and losing some soil, the plant is one hearty bad ass. I've been concerned about her, but she seemed to be just fine. I won't fuck up like that again.

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    #241873 - 06/21/09 11:32 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

From my experience. Usually the strongest and fastest growing ones aren't girls at all.. good luck man.

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    #241877 - 06/21/09 11:40 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Well the plants are spaced out, each was germed a day or two apart from each other. So the plants right now are anywhere from 14 days old (Neda and I think one or two others) to I think 8 or 10 days old. I hope I get some fems  :bow2:

Thanks for your input though, I appreciate it. I'm hoping since I get Neda a girl's name it'll inspire her to do the right thing. :tongue2:

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    #242244 - 06/23/09 11:41 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)



Growing and maturing like crazy  :jointsmile:

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    #242408 - 06/23/09 11:42 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)



Uh...?

Strange brownish almost bruise looking marks and white specks on the plant I dropped yesterday. I'm not seeing the same strange markings on any of the other plants which makes me think this is a result of my dropping the plant yesterday :frown: Plant is still growing and maturing at an amazing rate though so I'm going to get too worried.

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    #242413 - 06/24/09 12:16 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know what to tell ya' bro!  I really don't think anything like that would be an occurance of dropping your baby... I've dont that countless times being as high and drunk as I usually am and have never had any negative consequences... Might wanna look for pests and/or any sort of nutrient deficiency that may be applicable... post a clearer pic if you can and put it in doctor's diagnosis... You'll probably get more responses there... Anyways I like your style thats how I used to start all my plants... I wanna see this one through so keep the updates comin'!  :ganja:


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    #242437 - 06/24/09 01:23 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)



The white stuff is crystally looking. I can't see any pests but then again I'm not really sure what I'm looking for. However, I don't see any bugs or anything moving around the plants. For the last few hours I've been perplexed as to how a invasion could happen. Then I remembered the plant I accidently dropped lost about a quarter of it's soil. In a panic I ran out to the greenhouse to get some more soil mix which was left out in a open container for the last two weeks. Now I'm not sure if I'm invested yet but I'm just going to say that it would make sense if I am. I'm really fucking pissed off about this because this has been my biggest fear all along. I'm not going to panic until I get professional opinion though.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #242444 - 06/24/09 01:57 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Have you recently re-potted the plant, like in the last week of so?

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    #242445 - 06/24/09 02:02 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, the plant I dropped lost about a quarter of it's soil and I had to use the soil from the greenhouse. This would also explain why only this plant is showing signs of this right now...

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    #242448 - 06/24/09 02:25 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I was more asking if it was transplanted recently because i had a similar looking issue after transplanting where root damage was caused this issue 2 days later. But after a week or 2, the plants all cleared up after the roots had some time to repair themselves. Root 66 was added to the nutrient mix. But only follow this idea if you know there was root damage.

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    #242451 - 06/24/09 02:36 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Well... I did drop the plant and it did look like the roots got a little fucked up and smashed around when I dropped it. The more I think about it the more I don't think it's a bug invasion but something to do with dropping the plant. I don't see anything moving around on the plant and I would think I would see these crystals forming on other plants if it was. My gut instinct is that this is damage from me dropping it (which completely makes sense after what you said Integra) I'll observe in the morning and see how we're doing. I'll add some Rootzyme to my mix for tomorrow's feeding do some research into root damage. Thanks guys :thumbup:

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    #242617 - 06/24/09 06:12 PM (15 years, 30 days ago)

if had to guess that just looks like your keeping it way to cold in there, that looks like the color purple to me. that i've only known to happen from plants with purple genetics, but thats if you let it get cold at night during the last few weeks of flowering.

i dropped a plant before, it was in a bubble bucket(dwc)it moved the roots around and i lost half the clay pellets in the basket, but in the end everything was fine. i let it grow out some more and took the clones that i'm vegging in my log atm.


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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: helmet]
    #242764 - 06/25/09 02:36 AM (15 years, 30 days ago)

I agree with helmet, I think it's either a nutrient/ph problem or a pest that came and went.  The yellowish color is throwing me off too not just the blemish... I'm really stumped on this one... I wouldn't give it any chemicals just yet as you will probably burn it to death as I have done in the past with rooting stimulator.  Just be careful if you choose to use it and only give it 1/4 strength at the most because its just a baby and really shouldn't need anything for the first 2-3 weeks... :2cents:


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    #242784 - 06/25/09 03:42 AM (15 years, 30 days ago)

Thank you guys, I will use just PH balanced water for the next week or two. I'll post pics in a little bit.

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    #243113 - 06/25/09 10:29 PM (15 years, 29 days ago)



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    #243245 - 06/26/09 03:42 PM (15 years, 28 days ago)

It's been fascinating watching these plants grow and even though I think they're growing a little slow, watching the variation in how they grow from one plant to another is fascinating. The one plant I know is Skunkberry from the Vancouver Seed Bank is growing with reckless abandon. The rest are bagseeds from various donations that seem to be happy just doing their thing.

By the way, this soil mix is the fucking shiz-nite! My biggest fear as a n00b grower is figuring out watering and trying not to over or underwater. However, with the soil mix I've gone with every day I look at my plants and they look happy regardless of whatever the fuck my n00b ass is doing. I really credit having a large percentage of coco coir in the mix for making this relatively painless so far.

Probably going to transplant to bigger containers to encourage growth.

Thinking about building a flowering tent in my room for the 1,000 watt HPS. I still have that greenhouse and I feel reasonably certain that temps will be manageable running 12/12 in the cooler parts of the day but since having a horrific time out there at the beginning of this process, I'm feeling a little iffy about it and considering all my options.

I think I'm going to veg my plants for 40 days and then flower for 60 days.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #243672 - 06/28/09 02:32 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Far right 2 pics look a little beat up. But overall, looking good. Is the droopyness and discoloration something new? or a problem from the beggening?

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    #243872 - 06/28/09 08:00 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

They're wilting at an incredible rate and seem smaller and less alive today. I think they've bought the farm. I'll give it a few more days and see what you all think... but I think I've failed again






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    #243936 - 06/28/09 09:59 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

You know what dude? Fuck it, I'm going back to Hydro. I had a much better time trying to do hydro in a DWC bucket and the seemed much simpler and forgiving than soil. Also seemed much faster and easier to deal with fuck ups. I'll give these plants another day or two to see what happens but I think I'm going to prepare the greenhouse for a couple of DWC buckets. I'm sad this fucked up, but I got a lot of experience from trying it this way. But fuck it, I'm going to start thinking DWC and hydro.

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Re: Guerrilla's First Grow (Skunkberry in Soil) [Re: Guerrilla]
    #243957 - 06/28/09 11:25 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

I feel you pain. All of my soil plants(mothers), have been a headache since day 1. Nutrient problems, drainage issues, Pot sizes and transplanting. As soon as Started DWC, my garden looked the best it ever had. And I will be happy to keep it going, so here's a loudly shouted Fuck Dirt for all of the Hydro growers.

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    #243971 - 06/29/09 01:27 AM (15 years, 26 days ago)

place a 5 gallon bucket of water in the green house, when temps rise, water evaporates, raising humidity, plus its always nice to have a little extra water sitting out, at least 24hrs, so all chlorine has evaporated from it. cannabis can take higher temps but you must increase light, water, co2,


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    #260226 - 08/05/09 04:18 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Hey dudes, just wanted to give an update and not disappear into that good night... to quote Bob Dylan... no Dylan Thomas...

The soil plants that were having issues, I put outside to let nature do it's thing and euthanize the plants. However, something amazing happen. I just left the plants alone, periodically checking in on them and to my surprise after about two weeks or so, they started coming back to life and looking really healthy. Even more to my amazement, they started flowering about a week or two ago and are growing like crazy now. I think I have two girls out of the eight for sure (the two I started a week before the others, and MY FAVORITE plant made it and is a girl!!! All that time and work and she made all the way :laugh: so happy about that) and three more are showing girl characteristics (I think one is a hermie though) And only one for sure male out of the bunch. (The other two committed suicide... one literally jumped off the table it was sitting on. The sheer strangeness of that has perplexed me, but it was the sickest one of the bunch at the time.)

I'm really glad I had a fuck-up like this my first time because it taught me so much. It mainly just got me in tune with my plants and made me realize the best thing is to just let them live and do their thing. I water my plants once every couple of days now and they look happy.

I also have one plant going in the DWC (I made a DWC out of a cooler like the ones you see at a football game. You guys should seriously consider this as there's virtually no maintence and you never exposed the reservoir water. You use the spout at the bottom to pour a little water out for PH ratings and you pour the water and nutes in through a hole in the lid. Simple and painless) it's late in week 2 for veg. I'm following the Lucas Formula and I'm growing White Widow. I'm always stunned at just how much faster and healthier plants look in DWCs compared to soil. The white window plant looks like it's on meth compared to the soil plants.

But anyway, that's the update from here.

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