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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594084 - 10/25/11 10:28 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Looks more like the beginning of a ph problem.  when you fuck up the ph on your plants they tend to curl up like that, but usually more, so if that IS a problem, it's not as severe as it could be.  That last one pictured there also looks really light green, like there's a nutrient deficiency there, but i can't be sure because of the light that's shining on it.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #594088 - 10/25/11 11:00 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Magick, I know you said you were having a hard time telling with watering. A good trick I've learned (and my meter seems to agree), is to stick your finger into the pot up to the first (second if you have a bigger pot) knuckle than pull it out. Depending on the way it feels and the clingage is how wet your soil is.

I have 6" round pots (tall guys too) and I usually do it to half way between the two knuckles. If I pull my finger out and it feels kinda dry still, and there are just a couple little bits of dirt clining to it than I know it will need to be watered.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #594113 - 10/25/11 02:48 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks guys.
From what I've seen from other grows, most people don't have trouble with nutes or ph until the plants are older. I will check my soils ph when I get home.
Also I thought my plant was too small to be adding nutes.
I'll look into it when I get hint from work tonight.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594135 - 10/25/11 05:40 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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magick81 said:
Thanks guys.
From what I've seen from other grows, most people don't have trouble with nutes or ph until the plants are older. I will check my soils ph when I get home.
Also I thought my plant was too small to be adding nutes.
I'll look into it when I get hint from work tonight.

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if you'r hydro,PH and PPM is easily adjustable/fixable... soil, as far as i know is harder to fix if you F up in feeding....but thats just MY opinion....lol


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #594151 - 10/25/11 08:44 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I haven't started feeding nutes yet.
If it is a nute deficiency, obviously I'd need too feed nutes to correct it.
The only nutes I have at the moment is fish emulsion. Do you think it would help?

Also, I wont be able to buy any nutes till for another 2 days.
Will the plant last that long? I'd hate to lose my biggest girl :frown:

I'm also wondering why the other smaller plants aren't affected, they all seem fine and have all gotten the exact same treatment???


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #594154 - 10/25/11 08:52 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Looks more like the beginning of a ph problem.  when you fuck up the ph on your plants they tend to curl up like that, but usually more, so if that IS a problem, it's not as severe as it could be.  That last one pictured there also looks really light green, like there's a nutrient deficiency there, but i can't be sure because of the light that's shining on it.




The cOlours of the leafs are much lighter and close to yellow.
So it is probably nute deficiency. I'll have to do some research when I get home to figure out which one I need :frown:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594173 - 10/26/11 02:40 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Ok gang,
Here's the latest news.
I performed a PH test on the soil of the plant pictured above.
First test read 6.75. Second test was 6.5. Although the soil was still damp from the water I gave last night which had a ph of around 6.5.

Anyways, on closer inspection, the cotyledons have turned yellow and are curling a little. One of them has a darker brownish tip(not very dark, I almost mistook it for a shadow).
The next 2 leaves up, which are the biggest are green close at the stem, but seems to fade into an almost yellow colour by the end of the tip .

I will add some pictures later to see what you guys think, but after checking the deficiency photos, I'm thinking it is probably Nitrogen deficiency.

I haven't started feeding nutes yet, but plan to give it some fish emulsion.

Also, since my other plants are not far behind this plant, i should probably start feeding nutes now, right?

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594174 - 10/26/11 03:14 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)



Unfortunately, I could not get any clear pictures of the cotyledons

Anyways, I just fed all my plants with half strength nutes.
That Pics of nute deficiency thread says that after adding nitrogen, plant should improve within 4-5 days.
I've got my fingers crossed xXx

I get paid on Friday, I will go out and get the things I need so I can transplant them into bigger pots with better substrate (Debco Premium Potting mix I've been told is the locally available brand I should use) and mixed with some perlite. Also, should I consider adding some dolomite lime to the mix to control the PH?
What do you guys use to control your PH when growing in soil?

I think my soil is probably whats causing my problems. When watering, I notice the water will sit in a pool for a while before it actually starts to drain a few seconds later. I think mixing the perlite should hopefully fix this.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594430 - 10/27/11 07:00 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Plant 4 has just started showing symptoms ;( I'm starting to get worried
Am I doing the right thing?
I might start a doctors thread when I get home from work tonight.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594433 - 10/27/11 07:18 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Plant 4 has just started showing symptoms ;( I'm starting to get worried
Am I doing the right thing?
I might start a doctors thread when I get home from work tonight.




Wish i had some advice for ya, but i know squat about growing in soil....


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #594576 - 10/28/11 11:25 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Well hopefully they pull through.
The Diagnosis chart says if it is a nitrogen deficiency, they should improve in 3-5 days after feeding nutes.

So I'll just have to wait and see.
If they don't make it through, I just ordered some good quality seeds.
They cost just a little over $100 for 10 seeds. I'm hoping it really is a case of "you get what you pay for", since those chemdogs only cost me $33.00

The strain I got is "T.H Seeds - Heavy Duty Fruity".
It sounds really good on the website. I'll also be watching FurrowedBrows grow log to see how his turn out

I probably won't update my log for a few days, till after I know what is going on with my plants,hopefully I won't have to change it into a dying log, lols.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594578 - 10/29/11 12:16 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I just checked my plants just then.
It looks like it has exploded in growth just overnight after feeding it nutes. Hopefully that is a good sign that the plant is recovering, its growth seemed stunted when it ran into the nitrogen deficiency.
I'm a little happier that they seem to be doing better.
Their wilted large leaves are also not as droopy, and seem a little greener and perkier
:trollmove:

I know I said I wouldn't update, but i think theyre doing better, and have grown since my last photo upload
I think its worthy of a photo update, lol

Day 27


Thinking they may pull through I'm wishing I didn't spend $120 to get new seeds delivered lols.
We'll I reckon I've got about $50 left, to go get new pots, soil and some perlite. Hopefully it'll stretch enough to get everything.
I plan to get 25litre bag of potting mix and about 5Litres of perlite.

Am I missing anything? What else might I need to buy for transplanting into bigger pots?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594621 - 10/29/11 12:48 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

magick81 said:
I just checked my plants just then.
It looks like it has exploded in growth just overnight after feeding it nutes. Hopefully that is a good sign that the plant is recovering, its growth seemed stunted when it ran into the nitrogen deficiency.
I'm a little happier that they seem to be doing better.
Their wilted large leaves are also not as droopy, and seem a little greener and perkier
:trollmove:

I know I said I wouldn't update, but i think theyre doing better, and have grown since my last photo upload
I think its worthy of a photo update, lol

Day 27


Thinking they may pull through I'm wishing I didn't spend $120 to get new seeds delivered lols.
We'll I reckon I've got about $50 left, to go get new pots, soil and some perlite. Hopefully it'll stretch enough to get everything.
I plan to get 25litre bag of potting mix and about 5Litres of perlite.

Am I missing anything? What else might I need to buy for transplanting into bigger pots?




Good to see their doing better now, man those seeds are expensive, especially for non femmed seeds....i just got 10 regular orange bud seeds for $38 including shipping. check out this site for a good selection and great prices. I've ordered from them 3 times without problems.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #594622 - 10/29/11 12:56 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

They're lookin good. Can't wait. You've run into nutrient problems, I've run into physical problems. Cats and my lights fell AGAIN......


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #594677 - 10/29/11 08:34 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the kind words guys
As for the seeds, yes they are expensive, but I think they'll be worth it. It puts out commercial quantities while still being very potent.  That's what I've read anyways.

Anyways, another day has passed and I can't wait to check them again, lol, this is about the time that they start to take off right?
Waiting for 4:30pm when the lights come back on. About an hour and a half to go lol


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594694 - 10/29/11 11:50 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Lot's of growth and theyre bouncing back from the nitrogen deficiency quite nicely. A lush green colour seems to be returning to the leaves. Also while taking photo's I noticed a slight aroma of dank. My girls are starting to get smelly! I'll have to get that carbon scrubber this payday.

Big photo update coming up soon....


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594697 - 10/30/11 12:07 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

DAY 28 Photo Update

Group shot in tent


Plant 1, The Biggest



Plant 2



Plant 3



Plant 4



Plant 5



Hope you enjoyed the photos :laugh:

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594702 - 10/30/11 12:39 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Just a question about feeding nutes. They were started on half strength nutes. Now I only feed nutes once a week right? And just straight water until they are due for the next feeding, correct?

Also, any precautions to take when switching from the fish emulsion to the Dutch master grow nutes?

Also, do you guys think my plants look old enough to start LST? I haven't decided if I'm gonna scrog these plants or to wait till my next grow when I got more experience, but I definitely wanna try LST either way. If I LST these plants, I can still scrog em right?

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #594843 - 10/31/11 12:47 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I started mine on half strength, now they receive just under full strength fish fert. And I don't feed mine on a weekly schedual I usually do every other big watering with fertilizer, (which comes out to every 6 days or once a week LOL) individual plants will receive top ups in between as needed.

As for your other questions. I dunno  :shrug: , I did have to top one of my plants but it seems to be rather unphased after a good watering and a few days.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #594848 - 10/31/11 02:04 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

things are lookin good man, since this is your first time doing this u might want to just let them grow normal, or try just lst'ing one of them.  it will give you valuable experience without risking much.


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