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OfflineCrusty Ass Bastard
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Purple Kush, Grandaddy Purple, Ice
    #319565 - 11/21/09 04:45 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Due to the generous nature of a kind friend, I recently acquired 20 new beans:

10x Purple Kush (Has been selectively breeding and steadily improving this PK for 5+ years)
10x Mystery Seeds (GDP and ICE seeds were mixed up, could be one or the other or some of each)

I've always considered these to be elite, almost legendary strains, so I feel like the luckiest guy in the world right now. Look for some pics and a journal soon, just started germinating them. :smile:


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Re: Purple Kush, Grandaddy Purple, Ice [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #319571 - 11/21/09 04:52 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

I am jealous!


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Re: Purple Kush, Grandaddy Purple, Ice [Re: Inverted]
    #319592 - 11/21/09 05:28 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Ain't purple kush clone only (elite)?  Your homie made the seeds though from shit he been growing for 5 years?  curious to see the results this grow should be dope.


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Re: Purple Kush, Grandaddy Purple, Ice [Re: SmOakland]
    #319619 - 11/21/09 06:46 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Ain't purple kush clone only (elite)? 




GDP too.  Good luck with your grow!  I can't wait to see it develop.


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Re: Purple Kush, Grandaddy Purple, Ice [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #319622 - 11/21/09 06:55 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Ok, lets see if we can straighten out this elite clone only thing a little.

Ok, Now say that a strain that we will call Blue Balls is made up of say NL crossed with a Blueberry. Does that mean that any NL crossed with any Blueberry makes Blue Balls? No, it has to be that certain NL plant crossed with That certain Blueberry plant. Now when someone else does it with the same strains it's a knockoff that never seems to be the same even though the same strains were used to make it. Has to be the original parent plants.


Now clone only strains like Purple Kush, GDP, and say Cheese. Now with these you have to have a cutting off of the original plant or it's not that elite strain. Take Cheese for instance. All it is is a killer Skunk #1 plant that somebody renamed cause this one had a certain smell and high but do you get Cheese if you cross one with another even if it's done with feminized pollen? No, you get a skunk #1 plant. 

So seeds strains are a cross of two certain plants. Any seeds from these two plants are given the name of the strain,

Now elite strains are a name given to a certain plant and the only way to get them is to have a piece of that plant.

Hope this makes sense to ya. :happyweed:


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Re: Purple Kush, Grandaddy Purple, Ice [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #319623 - 11/21/09 07:03 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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SmOakland said:
Ain't purple kush clone only (elite)?  Your homie made the seeds though from shit he been growing for 5 years?  curious to see the results this grow should be dope.




Yes and yes, which is why I'm so excited. My first priority is to breed more PK and (hopefully) GDP seeds, then go from there.
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Ain't purple kush clone only (elite)? 




GDP too.  Good luck with your grow!  I can't wait to see it develop.




Thanks! This happened at a great time for me, I've been working with the same strain for almost 18 months and needed to make a change. I have some G13 Haze x Mango seeds ripening up but that project is going on the back burner now.


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Re: Purple Kush, Grandaddy Purple, Ice [Re: Magash]
    #319626 - 11/21/09 07:18 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Ok, lets see if we can straighten out this elite clone only thing a little.

Ok, Now say that a strain that we will call Blue Balls is made up of say NL crossed with a Blueberry. Does that mean that any NL crossed with any Blueberry makes Blue Balls? No, it has to be that certain NL plant crossed with That certain Blueberry plant. Now when someone else does it with the same strains it's a knockoff that never seems to be the same even though the same strains were used to make it. Has to be the original parent plants.


Now clone only strains like Purple Kush, GDP, and say Cheese. Now with these you have to have a cutting off of the original plant or it's not that elite strain. Take Cheese for instance. All it is is a killer Skunk #1 plant that somebody renamed cause this one had a certain smell and high but do you get Cheese if you cross one with another even if it's done with feminized pollen? No, you get a skunk #1 plant. 

So seeds strains are a cross of two certain plants. Any seeds from these two plants are given the name of the strain,

Now elite strains are a name given to a certain plant and the only way to get them is to have a piece of that plant.

Hope this makes sense to ya. :happyweed:




Interesting input!  And that does make sense, common sense even.  Why should just some joe shmo get credit for what he calls a new cross when there was no selection going on in their seed development? 

What about forcing self pollination.  I'm not sure of the appropriate terms but can't you spray a bud with some kind of chemical product to force it to intersex and develop male sacs?  I thought that was done to produce feminized seeds from these cloned plants that are flowered.  no?


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Re: Purple Kush, Grandaddy Purple, Ice [Re: Magash]
    #319631 - 11/21/09 07:29 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Ok, lets see if we can straighten out this elite clone only thing a little.

Ok, Now say that a strain that we will call Blue Balls is made up of say NL crossed with a Blueberry. Does that mean that any NL crossed with any Blueberry makes Blue Balls? No, it has to be that certain NL plant crossed with That certain Blueberry plant. Now when someone else does it with the same strains it's a knockoff that never seems to be the same even though the same strains were used to make it. Has to be the original parent plants.


Now clone only strains like Purple Kush, GDP, and say Cheese. Now with these you have to have a cutting off of the original plant or it's not that elite strain. Take Cheese for instance. All it is is a killer Skunk #1 plant that somebody renamed cause this one had a certain smell and high but do you get Cheese if you cross one with another even if it's done with feminized pollen? No, you get a skunk #1 plant. 

So seeds strains are a cross of two certain plants. Any seeds from these two plants are given the name of the strain,

Now elite strains are a name given to a certain plant and the only way to get them is to have a piece of that plant.

Hope this makes sense to ya. :happyweed:




Thanks Magash, I should have elaborated on that in the initial post. This was a PK clone initially pollinated by an unknown (to me) male. It has been backcrossed to PK numerous times over the last 5+ years. This is where the story ends for me unfortunately, but I'm assured the seeds will breed as close to PK as could be expected. Same goes for the GDP although I don't have any background story there.

I will say that this guy is a good friend with a greener thumb and more experience than I will ever possess. The plants should speak for themselves shortly. :smile:


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Re: Purple Kush, Grandaddy Purple, Ice [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #319680 - 11/21/09 10:27 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Damn hopefully I'll be at the cup next year. Magash are you submitting anything or doing any judging?


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Re: Purple Kush, Grandaddy Purple, Ice [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #319734 - 11/22/09 12:59 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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I'm not sure of the appropriate terms but can't you spray a bud with some kind of chemical product to force it to intersex and develop male sacs?  I thought that was done to produce feminized seeds from these cloned plants that are flowered.  no?


Yes you can do this but even if the seeds and pollen came from the same plant it's not like taking a clone. Different traits from the original parents can still come out.
Two twins lets say from Arkansas get together and decide to have a baby, Now even though they are twins is the baby gonna look exactly like them?


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