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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #292359 - 10/05/09 04:35 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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At the risk of sounding ignorant, I thought that strains at this point were basically a 'free for all' as far as breeding goes.  You got a cutting or a seed then grow it out and breed it however you want if you want.  I get a different understanding from your post koons.  I can understand the respect that goes into stabilizing a strain but imo (perhaps socialist opinion) i think the strains are just out there for the betterment of the plant, not the breeder.




You are entitled to your own opinion, more precisely your own set of moral values.

A more condensed and strong version of my thoughts would be. I like Simon at Serious seeds, he took the Indiana bubblegum clone and isolated a great representation of it. Reservoir on the other hand does minimal selection and releases pollen chucking plants that may be dank if you ever manage to find all the nanners before the seed the shit out of your weed.

As far as the argument on clones or genetics goes.. it's going to be a matter of your personal morals personally I think that a breeder should get a royalty for all of his work if and only if he allows another breeder to work with his genetics. Everyone ripping off each others work doesn't really better the plant, it tosses flavors around and narrows gene pools. It betters the plant if everyone goes out and works with landraces and even those basic building blocks of weed like the Skunk, Haze, and Afghani.

I'm not saying my opinion is the best, it's what it is... my personal opinion on the situation.

I do respect Reservoirs IBL's assuming they turn out well. His Sour Diesel and Chemdog are supposed to be good. I may even give his seeds another shot. It won't change what I think of his business practices.


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: captain.koons]
    #292366 - 10/05/09 05:18 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

The guy who know his shit is Steve at Spice of life. You can almost guarantee that if you get a female plant from his seeds it's good enough to make a mother. He has the best eye for selecting parent plants period.


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: Magash]
    #292367 - 10/05/09 05:29 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I like Spice of Life. Blockhead and Sweet Tooth FTW.


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: captain.koons]
    #292418 - 10/05/09 06:36 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Interesting.  I've got a lot to learn about breeding and the info you guys have provided has been great!


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: PFA]
    #292519 - 10/05/09 08:42 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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I ran a few packs of his double strawberry diesel and couldn't give away the seeds I didn't use.




send some to me, i'll put em to good use :smile:


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: coda]
    #292533 - 10/05/09 08:54 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Coda, Magash, what are your thoughts on DJ Short and/or Shantibaba in terms of their quality as breeders.
I think Shanti is kind of above reproach, but I don't know much about DJ except what I've heard about his individual strains.


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: 81renaissance]
    #292540 - 10/05/09 09:03 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Coda, Magash, what are your thoughts on DJ Short and/or Shantibaba in terms of their quality as breeders.
I think Shanti is kind of above reproach, but I don't know much about DJ except what I've heard about his individual strains.




Shanti > All

Magash thinks likewise.


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: coda]
    #292544 - 10/05/09 09:08 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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I ran a few packs of his double strawberry diesel and couldn't give away the seeds I didn't use.




send some to me, i'll put em to good use :smile:




My friend who I'm going to be growing with enjoyed and procured most of the Double strawberry diesel and will probably want to run them.

I'm going to be working on Chocolope, Matanuska Tundra, Matanuska Mist, my ol' white widow. If I can keep busy enough and avoid the DSD maybe ill send you them :P


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: 81renaissance]
    #292585 - 10/05/09 10:04 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Shantibaba knows his shit. DJ weeeell he did do Blueberry. :happyweed:


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: Magash]
    #292590 - 10/05/09 10:12 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I'm on a list to be selected as a tester for Shanti's new lines.
Really excited about that.


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: 81renaissance]
    #292592 - 10/05/09 10:13 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

You know your gonna find something good.


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: Magash]
    #292598 - 10/05/09 10:18 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Seriously.
He's not disclosing exact genetics so that its a blind test, but one of the new releases is 50% haze, and I'm betting its his Mango Haze which would be :awesome:


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: 81renaissance]
    #292623 - 10/05/09 10:54 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Aren't these new? He did say new haze hybrids.

I want the haze C which is 4 parts haze, 3 parts northern lights, 1 part skunk.


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: captain.koons]
    #292644 - 10/05/09 11:11 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Me too! Love me some Sativa doms.
Who are you over there?


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: 81renaissance]
    #292658 - 10/05/09 11:34 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

captain.koons

it's new hybrids, not mango haze.

I hope I get that haze c.


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: captain.koons]
    #293071 - 10/06/09 09:56 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Wow I like this thread!

Good read...


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: captain.koons]
    #293130 - 10/06/09 11:53 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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it's new hybrids, not mango haze.

I hope I get that haze c.




I think they are new hybrids of the stock that shanti normally uses.
Its always a combination of his classics...Neville's Haze, SSH, Mango Haze, NL, etc.
I don't think there will be genetics in there that we haven't seen from Shanti before, just a different combination.


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: 81renaissance]
    #293161 - 10/07/09 12:57 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Well im sure he has various skunkxhaze nl xhaze nl x skunk selections.

I guess time will tell if these are hybrids of his previous workings or new workings entirely.

They could be hybrids, time will tell.


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: captain.koons]
    #296069 - 10/12/09 07:17 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

CK: Congrats on getting that C hybrid.
I was chosen for B and I'm stoked!


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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: 81renaissance]
    #296075 - 10/12/09 07:48 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Was B your first pick?


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