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W.T.F!?
    #603166 - 12/28/11 12:26 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

flora nutes
6.5 ph
Cow compost, hpoo, verm, perlite, coir mix

Buds flourishing
leaves curling up like they are grandmasters of the eagle claw technique



She's been like this for about 3 weeks. Nothing is dying or falling off...just carpal tunnel or some really bad arthritis...


Please someone chime in. All Assistance welcome.


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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: jboogz]
    #603248 - 12/29/11 11:48 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Your growing medium is jacked up. It sounds like you're trying to grow in a pile of lightened shit.

Is this a soil or hydro type grow? I'm assuming soil, in which case you shouldn't be using vermiculite or coir. Coir is more for hydro type grows.

So if this is a soil grow my question is: Where is the soil?
Seems to be a lot of SHIT in the mix but it lacks DIRT.
Dirt (soil) should be 70-80% of your growing medium. All of the stuff you mentioned should be the other 20-30%.

Young vegging plants can be grown in just about anything. Once they start flowering though, it's all down hill without some dirt.


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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: DrGreenThumb]
    #603268 - 12/29/11 06:31 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Rite. My mistake.

FFOF-3 gal
Cow manure Compost -1 gal
Hpoo/Coir (leftover mushroom sub) - 1/2 gal
Perlite/Verm - 1/2 gal


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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: jboogz]
    #603272 - 12/29/11 07:37 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

In that case it's kinda hard telling. But my educated guess would be over-watering or over-feeding. It looks almost too green, but it could just be the pic also. FFOF is a pretty nutrient rich mix to begin with.


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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: DrGreenThumb]
    #603318 - 12/30/11 06:44 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Looks like a ph issue. What's your run off?

I'm dealing with a similiar issue.(rams horn) I some how spaced it and neglected to add lime and perlite to my promix. Now my ph is off and I have poor drainage.... so when I flushed to correct the ph the medium soaked up the water like a fucking sponge and little drained out.  Now I gotta remix some soil and transplant again.

It sounds like you have well drained soil though. So when in doubt flush her out!


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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #603320 - 12/30/11 08:37 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

:like: 
Both of you have strong points that are not mutually exclusive. So a flush it is.

She is definitely too green. I just dont want her to lose out on bud size from lack of food, so we shall see.

This girl is in the same soil mix...so a flush it is for her older sister.

As you can see she is medium green with no tiger style kung fu - or Rams Horn?

:thanx:  Thank you both.

I thought it might be something serious like sickle cell anemia. Those symptoms dont surface until around 3-4 months :laugh:


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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: jboogz]
    #603353 - 12/30/11 07:27 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Glad I could help.  I'd be interested to see how it works out for ya. Post up a pic when things improve. Good luck


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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: DrGreenThumb]
    #603401 - 12/31/11 10:43 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

DrGreenThumb said:
Seems to be a lot of SHIT in the mix but it lacks DIRT.
Dirt (soil) should be 70-80% of your growing medium.







What make you a TC?
cuz any TC's i know wouldn't say that statement.
Did you really just call soil and dirt the same thing?
im not gonna get into it that just made me cringe.
Also verm and coir are 100% fine to go into a soil mix.


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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: grod31]
    #603404 - 12/31/11 12:31 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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grod31 said:
What make you a TC?
cuz any TC's i know wouldn't say that statement.
Did you really just call soil and dirt the same thing?
im not gonna get into it that just made me cringe.
Also verm and coir are 100% fine to go into a soil mix.



You need to lighten up guy.
Perlite is more than enough to lighten up any mix.
Soil=Dirt. Plants grow in the ground. The ground is made up of dirt. Have you been outside recently?
I didn't see anyone else trying to help him out so I gave my best answer based on MY experience. If you have something else add feel free, but from what I can tell you're not such a spectacular grower yourself. :rolleyes:


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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: DrGreenThumb]
    #603431 - 12/31/11 06:44 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

you are right i should have been more informative with my post, and
maybe a was a lil pissed for no reason
but
Its not dirt,up to 80% of good soil is alive
dirt is not alive.
also
i have not posted any grows so from what you can tell i cant grow a damn thing.


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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: grod31]
    #603500 - 01/01/12 06:20 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Well well well....Happy New Year Guys

As I said THANK YOU Dr G Thumb for your assistance as well regardless of the word choice, your meaning was successfully communicated.

Grod, does it really matter? He was making a clear distinction between shit and soil using his word choice for emphasis. Welcome to 2012(+ billions), but please dont jack my thread with inane quarrel....at least not until i update the condition of the REASON for the thread.

THANKS GUYS!

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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: jboogz]
    #603643 - 01/02/12 01:04 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

you know man it kind of does "matter"
i did not jack a thread with inane quarrel that would mean that i said it for no reason for the sake of instigating.
I said that because calling dirt soil is so far from the truth that i had to intervene.
And you calling it " inane quarrel" makes me understand you didn't take a damn thing from that.

also calling it Dirt
means i know for a fact you never took any soil science classes and i just assumed all the TC's were educated in the plant field beyond personal experience.


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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: grod31]
    #603658 - 01/02/12 02:01 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I would never put "dirt" in anything that I planned to use as a medium for growth...so you're right, I didnt take anything from that. Since this is my thread, I think I should take something away from each post in it, if not...it is inane...insignificant.

I did however retain the fact that the soil I choose in soil grows should make up the majority of any mix(n) I decide to mix(vb). Therefore, it does not matter what words he chose because the message was effectively communicated to the party (me) for whom it was intended.

If you want to gripe and complain about his TC status or his level of knowledge in horticulture, please do me the favor of starting your own thread, Ill even help with a title;

"Dr Greenthumb said soil is dirt! And they let him be a TC?!? How Outrageous!"

I promise to visit.


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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: jboogz]
    #603661 - 01/02/12 02:40 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

:heart:


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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: grod31]
    #603741 - 01/03/12 07:24 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I know this won't settle it, but at least I gave it my best shot.

From Merriam-Webster Dictionary.
dirt - noun \ˈdərt\ 2. loose or packed soil or sand : earth <a mound of dirt> <a dirt road>

I rest my case.


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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: DrGreenThumb]
    #603752 - 01/03/12 12:08 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

look bro there is no case to rest,we are not arguing
i was upset with the wording, i apologized and explained my reaction. and created awareness that there is more to a pile of dirt then  rock particles.
:salute:


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the wall stone dead in ten seconds and they'd make me explain.


Edited by grod31 (01/03/12 12:11 PM)


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    #603754 - 01/03/12 12:25 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

grod31 said:
also calling it Dirt
means i know for a fact you never took any soil science classes and i just assumed all the TC's were educated in the plant field beyond personal experience.



You assumed wrong. Do you think we all went to Oaksterdam U to get our TC tag? Not likely.
I didn't think it was possible to be educated beyond personal experience. But if it makes you feel any better, I was an Agricultural Engineer for 3 years at my last job on a strawberry farm. (Plus I grow kick ass weed)
I don't have a problem with you. It's just petty bullshit. I expect this kind of thing on the Growery now. Most of the active members of this board are American and Americans are assholes. I fit in here too.


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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: DrGreenThumb]
    #603791 - 01/03/12 07:45 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

DrGreenThumb said:
I expect this kind of thing on the Growery now. Most of the active members of this board are American and Americans are assholes. I fit in here too.




Hey now speak for yourself man. If you ask me grod31's a pussy and greenthumb as you stated....ur an asshole. But americans are dicks.

We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. Pussys don't like dicks because pussys get fucked by dicks, but dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just wanna shit on everything. Pussys may think they can deal with assholes their way, but the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick.....and some balls. The problem with dicks is : they either fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate. And it takes a pussy to show them that.....but sometimes pussys can be so full of shit they become assholes themselves.....because pussys are an inch and a half away from assholes!

So stop being pussys and assholes god damn it
Hahaha.  couldn't resist. greenthumb's last post reminded me of this quote from a movie.
Sorry for jacking your thread even further Jboogz!


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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #603847 - 01/04/12 03:17 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

HAHAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa......No fuckin problem.

This close to the attitude promo, you guys can do whatever you want

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Re: W.T.F!? [Re: jboogz]
    #603880 - 01/04/12 01:07 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

so how do they look 5 days after the flush?
noticeably more vigorous/healthy?


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    Not me.  It would blast you through
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