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OfflineDungenessDank
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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: HippoSex]
    #576952 - 08/06/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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HippoSex said:
He's pro-life. That doesn't sound libertarian, that sounds republican. What's his stance on medicare, social security, and infrastructure development? Do you know?




He delivers babies for a living, I can see why he would be pro-life, being said he doesn't believe he should have the authority to decide what you do with your own body, so its a moot point.

He would be in favor allowing individual states the ability to decide if they want to supply those services or allow privatization.


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HippoSex said:
The fact of the matter is that people who would normally hold democratic values are supporting him in large numbers. It's taking away much needed votes from the democratic party and it is supporting the falsehood that the Republican Party still has an ounce of legitimacy left in it.
Ron Paul will not be president, but his candidacy does wonders for the Republican Party.




The democratic party doesn't "need" the votes, you do realize our congress is meant to represent the will of the people, correct? The people will vote for who they believe best represents them, or much more likely who the news media tells them they should think represents them.

It's simply false to say the GOP wants Paul as candidate, they overwhelmingly want Romney.

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HippoSex said:
See, if the government cuts spending right now, a whole bunch of people are going to lose their jobs. Not McJobs either, but real jobs that pay well enough to support a family - and a mortgage. And then those people are going to default on their mortgages and we know what happens then. Tent cities, bitches!




Or they can rent. The reason we have such crazy deficits is precisely because government spending has been treated as a jobs program.

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HippoSex said:
There would be less money in the hands of the American consumer and as a result, businesses would suffer too, and the gov would get less taxes, and it would cycle.




Unless you lowered taxes and deregulated which would spur investment at home instead overseas. More taxes on corporations to pay for jobs that wouldn't exist without the government propping them up is only going to send legitimate jobs away from home.

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HippoSex said:
Right now you're saying "but inflation!" - exactly. The government needs more in certain areas to spend more to put people to work, to provide social programs that people need (since they have no jobs), and to rebuild our tattered infrastructure - but it also needs to deal with its deficit. That's where taxing the rich and cutting waste (like defense spending) comes in. We end wars and close loopholes, return to the pre-bush rates, and suddenly we can actually afford to rebuild and keep this economy afloat.




Ah, but you are the champion of saving jobs correct? Do you have any idea how many jobs would be lost with drastic cuts in defense spending? Wouldn't we be seeing your hypothetical tent cities in either case?

The rest of your post is just boot-licking. Obama is no saint, he is liar and hypocrite who will do and say whatever will get him elected, the same as GW Bush. Politics in the US are a joke, and from the sounds of it you are rendered stupefied by the political theater and what they want you to believe is best for "everyone."

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OfflineHippoSex
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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: DungenessDank]
    #576958 - 08/06/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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DungenessDank said:
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HippoSex said:
He's pro-life. That doesn't sound libertarian, that sounds republican. What's his stance on medicare, social security, and infrastructure development? Do you know?




He delivers babies for a living, I can see why he would be pro-life, being said he doesn't believe he should have the authority to decide what you do with your own body, so its a moot point.

He would be in favor allowing individual states the ability to decide if they want to supply those services or allow privatization.

Why should women in some states have control over their bodies, but not in others?


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HippoSex said:
The fact of the matter is that people who would normally hold democratic values are supporting him in large numbers. It's taking away much needed votes from the democratic party and it is supporting the falsehood that the Republican Party still has an ounce of legitimacy left in it.
Ron Paul will not be president, but his candidacy does wonders for the Republican Party.




The democratic party doesn't "need" the votes, you do realize our congress is meant to represent the will of the people, correct? The people will vote for who they believe best represents them, or much more likely who the news media tells them they should think represents them.

It's simply false to say the GOP wants Paul as candidate, they overwhelmingly want Romney.

I didn't say they wanted Paul. He helps by taking votes from the Democrats. He's not a real candidate for president.

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HippoSex said:
See, if the government cuts spending right now, a whole bunch of people are going to lose their jobs. Not McJobs either, but real jobs that pay well enough to support a family - and a mortgage. And then those people are going to default on their mortgages and we know what happens then. Tent cities, bitches!




Or they can rent. The reason we have such crazy deficits is precisely because government spending has been treated as a jobs program.
"Let them eat cake" How are they going to rent without jobs and a social safety net?

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HippoSex said:
There would be less money in the hands of the American consumer and as a result, businesses would suffer too, and the gov would get less taxes, and it would cycle.




Unless you lowered taxes and deregulated which would spur investment at home instead overseas. More taxes on corporations to pay for jobs that wouldn't exist without the government propping them up is only going to send legitimate jobs away from home.

McJobs don't do much to spur the economy. Even with lower taxes, it's hard to beat China where you can pay college educated workers $200 a month. The taxes on corporations are on net profits, not individual workers.
Deregulation would spur investment? How about rebuilding a middle class that can afford not to shop and work at Walmart?


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HippoSex said:
Right now you're saying "but inflation!" - exactly. The government needs more in certain areas to spend more to put people to work, to provide social programs that people need (since they have no jobs), and to rebuild our tattered infrastructure - but it also needs to deal with its deficit. That's where taxing the rich and cutting waste (like defense spending) comes in. We end wars and close loopholes, return to the pre-bush rates, and suddenly we can actually afford to rebuild and keep this economy afloat.




Ah, but you are the champion of saving jobs correct? Do you have any idea how many jobs would be lost with drastic cuts in defense spending? Wouldn't we be seeing your hypothetical tent cities in either case?

The amount of money that private military contractors made away with is massive, and most of it does NOT get paid to soldiers. We could better use that money to build infrastructure, educate people to become doctors, and then hire them to provide medical care to ALL AMERICANS.

The rest of your post is just boot-licking. Obama is no saint, he is liar and hypocrite who will do and say whatever will get him elected, the same as GW Bush. Politics in the US are a joke, and from the sounds of it you are rendered stupefied by the political theater and what they want you to believe is best for "everyone."




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THEBats said:
Republicans as a party have become estranged certainly but you make the mistake of generalizing and discounting all republicans simply because of their party affiliation.




I blame Republican leadership, the media, and the corporations that control them, not the voters. Voters are misinformed, not stupid.

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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: HippoSex]
    #576968 - 08/06/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Well whether you like it or not this is a democracy in this country.  Ideally yes abortion should be a right extended to all women however at the very least we can make it an issue which voters can decide on. 

As you put, voters are misinformed not stupid.  So inform them and help change their minds on the issues.  But if your state votes to outlaw abortion, well that is how our political system works.  As long as each state has the right to decide I see no problem with that.  Don't like it?  Move to another state or make an effort to change peoples minds.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

Edited by THEBats (08/06/11 01:50 PM)

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OfflineI_AM_SWIM
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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: THEBats]
    #576974 - 08/06/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

:feelshighman:

looks like i got lost for a moment and landed in the parallel dimension where the USA is a big :feelsbadman:

lol

Yesterday the USA was doin' amazing, looks like I'm gonna have to GTFO and do thangs, go through the wormhole and pop into the dimension where the USA is a big :feelsgoodman:


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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: I_AM_SWIM]
    #576995 - 08/06/11 04:54 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

you fucks bitchin about ron pauls pro life position dont realize that he has stated that he personally is prolife (probably cause hes delivered a million babies) but he would leave it up to the states if he were elected.

RON PAUL is the ONLY honest candidate who will do the right things for our country along with gary johnson.

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OfflineDungenessDank
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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: grateful dead]
    #577003 - 08/06/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Exactly, it's unfortunate Gary Johnson doesn't have more support.

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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: HippoSex]
    #577026 - 08/06/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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HippoSex said:
Yeah. The real problems are athiests/muslims/liberals/socialists/minorities/spending/birth control/abortions/public healthcare/social security/food stamps/corporate taxes/corporate regulations/minimum wage/obama's birth certificate, etc.



:dudewtf:


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OfflineDungenessDank
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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: iStoner]
    #577027 - 08/06/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

People like to create mischaracterizations of those with opposing view points, it helps justify their views in their own minds.

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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: DungenessDank]
    #577131 - 08/07/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Here we go motherfuckers! We're four minutes away from the asian markets opening.

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OfflineDungenessDank
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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: HippoSex]
    #577148 - 08/07/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Meh, gold opened 40 points up, I don't care about the rest of the market, let it crash. Of course, you think we should inflate to give the market artificially good numbers and maintain the status quo. Wouldn't want to lose any of those good productive jobs.

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OfflineHippoSex
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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: DungenessDank]
    #577154 - 08/07/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hell no. I want it all to come down as much as you do. I'd like to get healthcare and security for everyone, but failing that, anarchy is better than fascism.

The markets are really unstable right now. People are just holding and waiting. Keep watching over the coming hours and days. The markets in Europe and the USA haven't even opened yet.

Last time the governments had the funds to stimulate us for a while, but since that money has been spent and we now have a debt ceiling, , they can't really do much if things start crashing.

Shit shall be interesting. I'm curious as to whether Obama will actually have the balls to go on the air prime time and talk about what's going on, or whether he'll hide out in the background and "wait for congress to return" - which is in mid September, lol.

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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: HippoSex]
    #577157 - 08/07/11 10:15 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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anarchy is better than fascism.




We can agree on that.

Obama will find a way to put a partisan spin on it, despite the fact the fucking over of our country has been a non-partisan effort since WWII.

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OfflineHippoSex
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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: DungenessDank]
    #577180 - 08/08/11 01:17 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Round two!

Europe's markets open (17 mins ago) to uncertainty.

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DungenessDank said:
Obama will find a way to put a partisan spin on it, despite the fact the fucking over of our country has been a non-partisan effort since WWII.




To the bane of many democrats, he has not yet done so in a sufficient manner.

Edited by HippoSex (08/08/11 01:29 AM)

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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: HippoSex]
    #577182 - 08/08/11 01:43 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

live stocks http://www.google.ca/finance

europe opened down about .5 percent, now up .5 to 2.1. That sure isn't going to last long, haha.

gonna be a wild week.

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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: HippoSex]
    #577403 - 08/09/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)


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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: HippoSex]
    #577404 - 08/09/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)


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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: HippoSex]
    #577409 - 08/09/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

All I know is, shit's gonna hit the fan soon. :shitfan:
So stop bitchin and be fuckin ready.  :shitstorm:


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Re: The Official [Re: HippoSex]
    #591831 - 10/12/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i blame the federal reserve and can prove it, your a nwo operative and i will be banned

Edited by Infowars.com (10/12/11 06:03 PM)

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Re: The Official "USA is fucked. The economy is tanking" Thread! [Re: Infowars.com]
    #591840 - 10/12/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i love these fucking paid off kids with 1000 people using their account
FUCK THE FEDERAL RESERVE WE HAVE NO MORE TIME

go fuck off puppets we know who is the enemy and the shroomery already got traced back to the BIG 6

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