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Offline31okiL
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Decline in Culture
    #371656 - 02/23/10 05:52 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, is it just me or is the West facing a decline in culture? It seems in the past there were more individuals that we glorified that actually deserved it.

I mean, look how we've changed. Instead of Tupac and Public Enemy, we have Lil Wayne and T Pain. Instead of Bob Dylan and Rage Against the Machine, we have Nickelback and Hinder. Instead of listening to intelligent, well thought out writers like Cornel West and Noam Chomsky, we listen to self righteous self-promoters like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh.

Can someone please tell me what has happened to people like Huey Newton, George Jackson, Che Gevaura, Gandhi, Abbie Hoffman, Malcolm X, and John Lennon? Can someone please tell me some similar individuals alive today?


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Re: Decline in Culture [Re: 31okiL]
    #371666 - 02/23/10 06:06 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I agree, and I think the internet is largely the culprit. We live in a society of instant gratification which leads us to not really appreciate everything we have and are capable of.


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Re: Decline in Culture [Re: 31okiL]
    #371677 - 02/23/10 06:33 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Are you talking about the US, or western civilization at large?


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Re: Decline in Culture [Re: 31okiL]
    #371683 - 02/23/10 06:41 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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31okiL said:
Ok, is it just me or is the West facing a decline in culture? It seems in the past there were more individuals that we glorified that actually deserved it.

I mean, look how we've changed. Instead of Tupac and Public Enemy, we have Lil Wayne and T Pain. Instead of Bob Dylan and Rage Against the Machine, we have Nickelback and Hinder. Instead of listening to intelligent, well thought out writers like Cornel West and Noam Chomsky, we listen to self righteous self-promoters like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh.

Can someone please tell me what has happened to people like Huey Newton, George Jackson, Che Gevaura, Gandhi, Abbie Hoffman, Malcolm X, and John Lennon? Can someone please tell me some similar individuals alive today?




I personally like Obama, him closing Guantanamo Bay was pretty sweet. Anyone who disagrees with closing a detention facility that breaks international law is a moron. Torture: Ineffective and Illegal.


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Re: Decline in Culture [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #371685 - 02/23/10 06:48 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Closing an illegal detainment facility is good yea, but I doubt he is really any different than every other self-serving politician on the take. I'm not coming from either left or right, but our current political system is run afoul with corruption & greed, there will never be a perfect world, and people will always be suffering somewhere, but there should be accountability within the government, which there is none.


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Re: Decline in Culture [Re: beatyou]
    #371686 - 02/23/10 06:51 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

The everyday citizen is getting royally fucked each and every day by uncle sam, but a country divided in half cannot unite and hold its leaders responsible, instead we argue amongst ourselves over pity wedge-issues like abortion/gay marriage/etc


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Re: Decline in Culture [Re: beatyou]
    #371687 - 02/23/10 06:53 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

the best days of america are over , now its time for chaos and starvation :frown:


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Re: Decline in Culture [Re: Homosapian]
    #371689 - 02/23/10 06:57 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Well, not necessarily starvation and chaos. We are the wealthiest country in the world, but world power and wealth shifts constantly throughout history, no empire lasts forever. I don't believe all of a sudden we will become a third-world nation, but slowly decline over time, we are already rapidly falling behind the rest of the developed world in things like mathematics, science, city infrastructure, etc. The US is still the best place on earth for a lot of things, I'm not a basher, but I think the "we are #1" days are numbered.

This is more on topic with this threads original intent:


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Re: Decline in Culture [Re: beatyou]
    #371691 - 02/23/10 07:01 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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beatyou said:
The everyday citizen is getting royally fucked each and every day by uncle sam, but a country divided in half cannot unite and hold its leaders responsible, instead we argue amongst ourselves over pity wedge-issues like abortion/gay marriage/etc




And often those wedge issues are easily figured out with simple questions.

"If abortion is illegal, what stops people from breaking the law and performing abortion? If a girl really honestly wants an abortion, is a law going to stop her?"

"Give a logical, non gender discriminating reason to not have gay marriage."


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Re: Decline in Culture [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #371693 - 02/23/10 07:05 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

i dont think we are the wealthiest country in the world..
we owe china about a trillion bucks , and whats up with that half pig half mutant creature?


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Re: Decline in Culture [Re: Homosapian]
    #371700 - 02/23/10 07:17 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

We have by far the biggest economy in the world, sort by GDP


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)


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Re: Decline in Culture [Re: Homosapian]
    #371703 - 02/23/10 07:27 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Homosapian said:
i dont think we are the wealthiest country in the world..
we owe china about a trillion bucks , and whats up with that half pig half mutant creature?




Our GDP dwarfs China's, And all other countries at that.


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"Je pense, donc je suis (I am thinking, therefore I am)." -Rene Descartes

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Re: Decline in Culture [Re: beatyou]
    #371705 - 02/23/10 07:28 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

you make a good point, but debt and credit are what make the wheels of capitalism spin, however. The average joe would work a lot less if they didn't have a 30-year mortgage hanging over their head, a car payment, and $20k of credit card bills.




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Re: Decline in Culture [Re: beatyou]
    #372178 - 02/24/10 04:17 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I never thought of the West to be very cultured sorry to say. :shrug:


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Re: Decline in Culture [Re: TomCollins]
    #372297 - 02/24/10 10:25 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Your definition of culture is very different from mine then...

Culture (Anthropology) - the sum total of ways of living built up by a group of human beings and transmitted from one generation to another.

I will agree that the culture is getting very dumbed down and 'lowest common denominator' meaning the west is becoming more and more homogeneous, which is very fucking boring, and waters down the culture at large. Some things I do to combat this are not eating fast food, don't buy gasoline or drive unless I absolutely have to (the car culture is why America is fat as fuck), and if I do eat out at a restaurant, I only hit up local places, never national chains. Theres tons of stuff we can do to combat this pathetic & shallow consumer culture we've become in our every day lives.


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Re: Decline in Culture [Re: beatyou]
    #372299 - 02/24/10 10:29 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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beatyou said:
The everyday citizen is getting royally fucked each and every day by uncle sam, but a country divided in half cannot unite and hold its leaders responsible, instead we argue amongst ourselves over pity wedge-issues like abortion/gay marriage/etc





fuckin A MEN brother. everyone gets so caught up in platform issues during elections we forget to look at real solutions the rest of the time.


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