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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: kydub]
    #33898 - 05/19/08 01:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

New setup for now - stuck 'em in a rubbermaid container and flipped the powerstrip over to get the light right next to 'em. I also ran a rube out of my ultrasonic and tee'd it off to get some extra humidity in there.

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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: kydub]
    #33903 - 05/19/08 01:52 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I'm hoping they rebound for you. Have you tried the cloning gel on the stems yet? :hehehe:Just apply that stuff all over the stems, up and down and everywhere, but leave one without to see the difference.


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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: Sirius]
    #33910 - 05/19/08 01:58 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

No cloning gel yet. Went to a hydro store and asked about using them for stem improvement (he gave me one of those you-fucking-idiot looks) and then the only stuff I could find was $35.

Sold some gear from old hobbies off though - so I'm going to give it a whirl this evening.

They look a little happier though...

...one question I have, however, is that the leaves (the ones that were healthy) are starting to brown a bit at the tips and turn downwards.

I thought this was a sign of light deficiency, so I bumped up the CFL wattage from 43 to 172 (4x 43w) and it hasn't seemed to change much.

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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: kydub]
    #33929 - 05/19/08 02:19 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

to be honest that humidity looks like a bit much to me. that would be perfect if they were mushrooms...

you should be more concerned about fresh air, such as from a fan, than your ultrasonic


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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: kydub]
    #33961 - 05/19/08 02:51 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

There's an enourmous box fan you aren't seeing that sounds like a small jet engine sucking air in from outside and blasting it through the room. Originally I turned my coolmist/ultrasonics on just to help with the heat - helped /alot/. I ended up running the tube with the T in the rubbermaid just for shits 'n giggles and then decided to leave it since it keeps the RH in there at about 55-60 with the fan on.

I turned the fan off for the picture 'cause otherwise you couldn't see any mist.

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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: kydub]
    #33963 - 05/19/08 02:52 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

gotcha

otherwise is was going to say you might run into rot/mold problems


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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: Yrat]
    #33972 - 05/19/08 03:01 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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are starting to brown a bit at the tips and turn downwards.




Brown tips on new growth generally points to an overfeeding. If you stuck those seedlings in a really rich soil, like ocean forest, there's a good chance that they're getting too much food right now and are burning.

Edit- looking back at your soil mix i would say it's either the castings (too much) or the DE that's causing the problems.


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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: coda]
    #33982 - 05/19/08 03:11 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

coda - the soil in the pictures is Happy Frog Potting Soil, so it's probably too rich. Could I cut it down using perlite or vermiculite? A 70/30 soil/inert agent mix perhaps?

Also, buddy's outdoor Pineapple is going nicely - I'm going to get some cloning gel and root dip stuff on the way home and take a couple cuttings from his little beauty. I'll try the gel trick on 3-4 of the seedlings I've got and see what happens.

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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: kydub]
    #34029 - 05/19/08 04:51 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Also,  buddy's outdoor Pineapple is going nicely - I'm going to get some cloning gel and root dip stuff on the way home and take a couple cuttings from his little beauty.  I'll try the gel trick on 3-4 of the seedlings I've got and see what happens.




That sounds cool, Pineapple! Now I don't feel so bad about paying that much for the stuff just for an experiment. :grin:


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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: Sirius]
    #34149 - 05/19/08 07:18 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

The fun is all in the experiment. =)

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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: kydub]
    #34183 - 05/19/08 07:37 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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coda - the soil in the pictures is Happy Frog Potting Soil, so it's probably too rich. Could I cut it down using perlite or vermiculite? A 70/30 soil/inert agent mix perhaps?




In the future, yah, not much you can do about it now unless you want to disturb the root system. Just keep giving them plain water until they tell you they need nutes. Seedlings are very sensitive, and while you can get them to rebound, too much stress will just flat out kill them.

Just keep an eye on them, they should be ok, it's possible they're just struggling a bit with all they've been through.


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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: kydub]
    #34561 - 05/19/08 11:01 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Got some OG Kush clones today - and some Pineapple cuttings. Unfortunately the Pineapple was flowering - so I tried to use the very top for cloning. Just finished potting, cloning... setting up terrarium... so no pics, but I did take one...

Oh, and Sirius, I threw some cloning gel on two of the seedlings - the other two I'm keeping I left, and the last two I don't care about anymore went outside to fend for themselves.


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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: kydub]
    #34650 - 05/19/08 11:53 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

is it me, or does that bunny have a crazed look in the eye.....must be the reefer madness i've been hearing about.


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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: kydub]
    #34698 - 05/20/08 03:35 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Oh, and Sirius,  I threw some cloning gel on two of the seedlings - the other two I'm keeping I left,  and the last two I don't care about anymore went outside to fend for themselves.




How did you apply it? Smear it all over the stems on all sides, up and down? :smile:


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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: Sirius]
    #34785 - 05/20/08 11:07 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Oh, and Sirius,  I threw some cloning gel on two of the seedlings - the other two I'm keeping I left,  and the last two I don't care about anymore went outside to fend for themselves.




How did you apply it? Smear it all over the stems on all sides, up and down? :smile:




Yup.  We'll see how it's doing when I get home today.

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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: kydub]
    #35799 - 05/21/08 01:29 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

cool hope it works out for ya man! :thumbup:

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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: Sirius]
    #35861 - 05/21/08 02:50 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Oh, and Sirius,  I threw some cloning gel on two of the seedlings - the other two I'm keeping I left,  and the last two I don't care about anymore went outside to fend for themselves.




How did you apply it? Smear it all over the stems on all sides, up and down? :smile:




what does this help achieve?


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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: Laysthepipe]
    #35865 - 05/21/08 03:05 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

It might not achieve anything; however, I've seen someone who had applied it to the lower stem of a plant and the stem swelled to three times its size. Since these ones are very thin and long and they are risking dying anyways, and there is nothing to really lose in trying it, it seems perfect for some experimentation to see if it will work.

Of course, all of that has already been said in this thread. :wink:


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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: Sirius]
    #36557 - 05/22/08 12:13 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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It might not achieve anything; however, I've seen someone who had applied it to the lower stem of a plant and the stem swelled to three times its size. Since these ones are very thin and long and they are risking dying anyways, and there is nothing to really lose in trying it, it seems perfect for some experimentation to see if it will work.

Of course, all of that has already been said in this thread. :wink:




Ahh ok. i thought u were trying to get some aerial roots going with higher nodes.


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Re: Just got some seedlings [Re: Laysthepipe]
    #36801 - 05/22/08 02:11 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Welp, for the cloning gel I can't say I've really seen any difference as of yet, except one of the stems seems a bit brown and barky. I'm not sure if this is because it's just dying (the leaves are green and healty looking) but it isn't happening to the ones I didn't smear the gel on.

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