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First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated
    #579235 - 08/18/11 06:22 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Hello, all!
3 weeks ago I started my 1st grow. Im using a "special" potting mix...1pt mirricle grow; 1pt vermiculite; 1pt. Perlite; 2pt Scott potting soil. I had to do this as I was gathering supplys for a pro soil formula (mo pro then me at least), which listed all of the above, except with worm castings instead of miricle grow. Also, I added half a handfull of dolomite lime for 1sq ft. of mix.
For lights I currently have a 42 watt (200 equivalent) cfl for each of my 3 week old plants. Tommorow I will have a total of 440watts (8 42 watters, 4 26 watters). My grow room is 4ft by 2ft.
I am using MG grow food ONLY because idk any good nutes...
I water when the first layer of soil dries.
I will upload LOTS of pics, if I see that ppl actually read this <.<

suggestions? Criticism? PLEEEEEEEASE. I also have a bunch of questions for soil pros


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: Dimo114]
    #579257 - 08/18/11 08:20 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Anyone? o.o
Heres some week old pics....fresh ones coming up soon.



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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: Dimo114]
    #579316 - 08/19/11 01:35 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Ok heres the picks from just now:)
I had to threw 2 out (males), so now its 2 sour, and an unknown seedling, but I have more germinating which is why I did not set up the lights compleatly.









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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: Dimo114]
    #579420 - 08/19/11 08:39 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

24 hours later (right after installing the all new Dimotech Ghetto CFL Fixture 2.0ยก...i knew woodshop would get paid off sooner or later xD)





Now theres a total of 25800 lumens in my 4 x 2; 3225 lumens per sq. Ft... is that good enouph? Im going to have a total of 34800 in about a week, but idk if ill upgrade again untill flowering.
Also, im keeping the lights a little further away now, because I have a half_ass wooden hood, and am using Y sockets so the light would not be coming from above the tops.......this got me thinking and....wouldnt that make the plant generate new tips, without stress? Or is it stress.
Ok I finally confused myself; carry on...
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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: Dimo114] * 1
    #579694 - 08/20/11 10:26 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

How did you sex them that young and that small? Im a little confused? You should also get rid of the bullshit miracle grow, it's shiiiiit!


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: c99hunter]
    #579695 - 08/20/11 10:28 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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How did you sex them that young and that small? Im a little confused? You should also get rid of the bullshit miracle grow, it's shiiiiit!



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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: Stoneth]
    #579719 - 08/20/11 11:42 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

24 hrs later...not even, actually


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: Dimo114]
    #579721 - 08/20/11 11:46 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Looking good Dimo114. :peace:


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: Magash]
    #579723 - 08/20/11 11:48 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Lol sry, browser force closed right before post....and no, that thing on the left of ur post is looking good....one min till pics


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: Dimo114]
    #579725 - 08/20/11 11:52 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Well still looks good since I hadn't seen all the pics you already had up. :happyweed:


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: Dimo114]
    #579729 - 08/20/11 11:57 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)



Im starting to worry about ventilation, in the pic u can see I put a tower fan flat on the floor to draw air in....but theres no hole in the door, so its just coming from that little crack on the bottom. Im using the top shelf of the closet to incubate some shroomies, so I can use the heat for now(also first grow). But I have no idea what im going to do later on.


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: Dimo114]
    #579730 - 08/20/11 11:58 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

No idea what happened with the pics...they looked fine on my laptop.


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    #579752 - 08/21/11 01:41 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Im using the top shelf of the closet to incubate some shroomies




Cool, I know a little about those too.

Some of my work

Here is a tek of mine that was put in the faq
http://www.shroomery.org/8432/From-syringe-to-print-using-rye

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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: Magash]
    #579755 - 08/21/11 02:07 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

wow those look fantastic. Noone on shroomery answers my threads....sooo can I get 2 Q's? o.o
dont answer if its a bother...really. 1. I injected too much spore solution in some of the jars (original pf tek formula), is it possible I od'd on spores, or messed too much with the moisture content?
2. Is it true that potency is much greater in poo-grown over brf/wbs? This is for personal use (well including like 5 other people. We all tripped for first time recently and cant get any more) so potent cy>quantity.

P.S. I have another 2 syringes left, definitely trying that tec. I see you used the uuuh makeshift-closet-thingamajig fruit. Chamber tek...i stocked up on perlite tho so its Tupperware for me.


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    #579766 - 08/21/11 03:52 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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1. I injected too much spore solution in some of the jars (original pf tek formula), is it possible I od'd on spores, or messed too much with the moisture content?




Spore overdose nah, but moisture content can be a problem. Depends on how much to much you did, if you can see water on the bottom of the jars they may take a while to finish.

Here is the way I make my syringes so obviously to many spores isn't a prob.
  There are just a few spores in there :wink:


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2. Is it true that potency is much greater in poo-grown over brf/wbs? This is for personal use (well including like 5 other people. We all tripped for first time recently and cant get any more) so potent cy>quantity.


  People can say that till they are blue in the face but myself I never found it to be the case. I like to grow on rye but it's all a personal preference thing.


The closet thing is a Martha Stewart closet from K-mart.

Here is a invention of mine that may work for ya if needed.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=75&Number=1303334&fpart=&PHPSESSID=

One of the largest threads ever on the Shroomery that isn't porn related. :awedance:


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: Magash]
    #579774 - 08/21/11 05:27 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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2. Is it true that potency is much greater in poo-grown over brf/wbs? This is for personal use (well including like 5 other people. We all tripped for first time recently and cant get any more) so potent cy>quantity.




I too grow with rye and potency has never been an issue.  I also hate cleaning my mushies as it is (hurts my neck).  I'd hate to have to make the process longer.

Those links Magash linked you too are some of the very ones I used to get started 4 years or so back.  Now mushroom growing is second nature.  GOOD LUCK


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: muse42]
    #579821 - 08/21/11 12:23 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

For mushroom growing I just used wild bird seed when I was doing it :smile: It was easiest for me to get in my area and worked really wel :thumbup: I too, used some of those very threads to learn to grow shrooms! :cool: I've grown on wbs,HS,brf,rye,coir, and I've never really noticed any significant change in potency at all, but that's just me. I can't speak for a bunch of other people. Good luck!


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: c99hunter]
    #579847 - 08/21/11 02:21 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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For mushroom growing I just used wild bird seed when I was doing it :smile: It was easiest for me to get in my area and worked really wel :thumbup: I too, used some of those very threads to learn to grow shrooms! :cool: I've grown on wbs,HS,brf,rye,coir, and I've never really noticed any significant change in potency at all, but that's just me. I can't speak for a bunch of other people. Good luck!





Hey 99 I'm glad the teks I put up worked for ya. The rye tek works just as well with wbs and millet. For me rye was easier to find but when I did get off my lazy ass and pick up the wbs it was nice cause it's way way cheaper. (and yes it's just as good :omgawesome: )


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: Magash]
    #579850 - 08/21/11 02:34 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Magash, that tek may not be porn related, but the pics of the mushies gave me a hard on....>.<

One question though, is it OK to use only perlite in the fruiting chamber used in the tek?
Thanks for all the help!


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    #579852 - 08/21/11 02:41 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Btw, I don't know much about spores, and mine were white (is that normal for golden teachers?), but those syringes look more packed w/ spores then mario 2 lol


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    #579854 - 08/21/11 02:49 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Btw, I don't know much about spores, and mine were white (is that normal for golden teachers?), but those syringes look more packed w/ spores then mario 2 lol





They were white when making a spore print or white inside the syringe? If they were white inside the syringe, they probably just germinated inside there and you were seeing mycelium  :smile:


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    #579862 - 08/21/11 03:05 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

O.o I bought the syringes. They were always white..so im fucked?
I thought its just some spores that are black :sad:


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    #579877 - 08/21/11 04:09 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Im confused, what was white? I am assuming/guessing that it is just germinated spores and if thats the case, your jars will prolly just colonize faster. :smile: Can you get a pic?


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    #579902 - 08/21/11 05:06 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Here, i dont think you will see it tho. Inside there are white flake-like particles. They swen partially see-through too. And if your theory would enable them to colonize faster, then (sadly) you are mistaken. Today is day 5 (4 full days past) and no sign of a colony on any of the 16....




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    #579907 - 08/21/11 05:21 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

SOS
I think I got contam on the roots :frown:(
what should I do???



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    #579913 - 08/21/11 05:52 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

No, if it was germinated spores that was causing the "white" It would be fluffy cottony looking and would definitely cause the colonization to go faster because they are already germinated and automatically go into colonization mode. It's not a theory, people do it all the time by making liquid cultures.

I can't make out anything in the pics of the syringes, but that second post looks like green shit to me. I would throw it away and not think about it any more. Where'd ya get your spores from?

So it doesn't seem much like mycelium, but more like paper or some other type of something from what the spore print was on when they made the spore syringe. But that's a complete guess.


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRATLY apreciated [Re: c99hunter]
    #579915 - 08/21/11 05:56 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I assume those are the roots of your marijuana plants that have the green shit growing in them and not the mushroom jars.  That is what happens when you put plants in clear containers...  Sorry I don't know what to do if anything.

Most of the spores that you buy online are not near as concentrated as Magnash's home made syringes.  Your's should be fine.


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    #579924 - 08/21/11 06:16 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Aaaaaw I am fucked...and ya I was talking about roots. But I put foil around them days ago, I noticed this today, before I was about to repot. The green is concentrated at tops of the pots (except the little seedling), so ill just try to kinda...u know...scrape-n-scratch it off. Or is there something that I need to add to the soil/water. I will research asap, but will check back a lot...im scared lol


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    #579948 - 08/21/11 07:57 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, going from the pic of the roots the contam may just be algea. Just scrape it. Now if it was a mushroom jar then they are done for.

White in the syringe? That means the spores have started to germ in the water cause if they are white spores then they arn't the kind of mushrooms you want to grow. (If you bought the syringes then it's just myc starting to grow. Use the syringes very soon and they will colonize the jars fast.)

I'm lazy so I just put a entire print in each syringe cause I make em by the hundreds. That way if I have a bad print it's kept to one syringe.

The perlite will work but not with the air-stones going. Plus it tends to grow a ton of algae on the white rocks cause you use way more water then the typical perlite setup.

Oh yeah I almost forgot. Shake up those syringes and break up those white flakes as much as you can so the get to as many spots in the jar as possible.

I think that covers it :wink:

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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRAT LY appreciated [Re: Magash]
    #579966 - 08/21/11 08:57 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks! And (not really a surprise) you were right, its algae and its stuck to the container, not the soil or roots.
Even though I'd really love for u too be right about the spores too, but the thing is, its been 4 full days since inoculation, and no signs of growth..how long would the mycelium survive in the syringe?


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    #579984 - 08/21/11 09:31 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

That I'm not sure about. Remember the moisture content may be off so that may be what is making the spores take a while cause even if the myc started to grow there will still be some spores in the solution but if the moisture content is way off (I can't see em so I have to guess on how over the moisture content is) they may never start. I over did some jars and they took 17 days to start but they did start and ended up finishing.
BRF jars also take longer to show signs then grain jars do. With BRF jars I keep em a few weeks before I trip with grains jars if the jars aren't completely done in two weeks I chuck em.

This jar was 9 days old when the pic was taken.


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRAT LY appreciated [Re: Magash]
    #579993 - 08/21/11 10:00 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Wow 9 days..did you use your tek (the one you showed me) for it? And I have 2 more syringes that are the same way, I guess if I see growth on the brf, ill inoc. Grain. I already have all the materials except the grain itself. Do you think its a good idea to buy organic grains and mix them, or just get the home depo stuff? And there is no watter on the bottom of the jars, just sweating where I poked it.

Thanks for giving me some hope.
About to transplant and post pics. Btw does it make sence to train autos?


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    #580032 - 08/22/11 12:58 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

To clarify, by "does it make sense to train autos?" I mean does it make sense to do it if I am going to swich them to 2700k "soft white" bulbs in about a week to make room for the 5 auto-fem ak 48's. Also is 420 watts of cfl reasonable for a 2x2 space?
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    #580034 - 08/22/11 01:49 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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.did you use your tek (the one you showed me) for it?


Yup, that's what I do every time I grow on just grains.


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Do you think its a good idea to buy organic grains and mix them, or just get the home depo stuff?


I only use organic grains. Some of the store bought stuff is treated and the spores won't grow on it.


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And there is no watter on the bottom of the jars, just sweating where I poked it.


They should work then. They may take a while but they should work buuuuut I can't say for sure.

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Btw does it make sence to train autos?


Sure. That should be fine. There are others around here that have more exp with autos then me that may chime in.

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Also is 420 watts of cfl reasonable for a 2x2 space?


It should be just barely. I pretty much recommend to people 250watts of HID for the same space so it will be close.

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Im doing this from my phone (paranoid about ip), so typing is difficult and kinda confusing. Sorry


I wouldn't worry about it much. Put it this way their coming after me before they come after you. :wink: and it's just as easy to trace back a phone to the owner as a computer.


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5 auto-fem ak 48's


  Ahhhhh...good old AK-48. I haven't grown the auto version but this is what I did with the normal version of it.


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    #580076 - 08/22/11 09:38 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, the only reason I even started with cfl is because the only way for me to get HID is through the internet. I heard of people using security lights, but they are nowhere near the right spectrum...right? Or is there a safe (privacy-wise) site to order them? I mean i'm sure there is, but I have no way of knowing for sure because they all say that.
Here are my best attempts to take a clear pic of the jar that got the most spore solution. If you can see, theres actually a void where it was inoc., and sweating all around that spot. In this jar, I can see  that the substrate is more wet at the bottom. Not enouph to form water drops or puddles, but clearly more wet. I just want to know if the other syringes are viable. If you could recomend a trustworthy place to order them, that would be great too. I ordrered these from sporeworks.



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    #580079 - 08/22/11 09:52 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Cant keep writing on my phone after posting pics...n.e.way, all the green algae came off the containers, I watered after repoting, so 1 morr and on to foxfarm nutes. Btw
that ak48 nug says it all....all my hopes and dreams lmao.
Also I think a phone is only traceable is gps is enabled. Even though you DEFFINETLY make a valid point when you say they'd go after you first lol.


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    #580100 - 08/22/11 12:31 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

If you got the spores from sporeworks, you got them from a TOP NOTCH vendor for sure! :thumbup: I would say your syringes are 100% viable and contam free if that's where they are from! :stoned:


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    #580107 - 08/22/11 01:12 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

O: but theyre supposed to be spores. I did see lots of good reviews, and it being listed as a #1 most trusted somewhere. But they (the syringes) looked suspicious to begin with. the needle was not separate, but atouched ti the syringe. the ziplock bag had what could only be visualy described as a dried piss stain (thankfully on the outside).
I know it was probably human eror w.e, and like 1 in a million is not viable....it's just that this shit always happens to me >.< my pressure cooker came in without a gauge, and im still waiting for Cheese fem seeds I ordered 2 MONTHS AGO WITH EXPRESS SHIPPING. Ya. Marijuanaseedbank.com  - scumbags with 0 custumer service.

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    #580126 - 08/22/11 01:56 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

dude that seedbank sucks. ill bash them all day long lol same with hemp depot and dr. chronic. only banks ill order from are bc bud depot, attitude and the vancouver seed bank. usually i just go direct to the breeder tho (you always get hooked up fatter)

i have been really curious about Rhino seeds though but there are like literally zero reviews outside the website itself which always sketches me out.

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    #580138 - 08/22/11 02:47 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I WIIISH I knew a breeder, or at least someone who makes prints/syringes...

Im gonna be the first around these parts <[:D

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    #580155 - 08/22/11 04:27 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

You have to go with who has the highest reviews.  BC Bud Depot. Just say the name here in Mendicino or in Humboldt and people are gonna consider you a joke. They do stupid shit like say that they use "Origina Blueberry" to make their seeds and say it's better then DJ Shorts. Yet he is the developer of the original blueberry. They are one of the worst rated sites out. http://www.seedbankupdate.com/  They use to sell Spice Of Life even though Breeder Steve says he never supplied them. Then all of a sudden it went from having Spice of Life Sweet Tooth to having BC Sweet Tooth and then claim its better then the original. There strain "the purps" they claim comes from the Purps IBL. Well guess what, the purps comes from right here in Mendo and it doesn't take much looking to find that out. There is no such thing as a Purps IBL.
They claim 707 Headband is OG Kush x Sour Diesel then crossed back to the OG Kush. Only one problem there is no OG Kush in headband. The strain is "Mass Super Skunk crossed with 91 ChemDawg" yet again very easy info to find if someone takes the time to look.
They claim to have bread the strain "Jack Herer" when just about anybody who has grown even for a little while knows it's a Sensi Seeds strain. Then there is BC Chronic funny thing is that Chronic is a Serious Seeds strain. The only thing that BC Bud Depot is good at is stealing the name of others work.
BC Hash Plant, Yet hash plant is another Sensi Seeds Strain. BC Mango, Mango a KC Brains Strain. BC Bud Depot Lowrider #2 yet that strain comes from Joint Doctor Seeds. They claim "B.C. Northern Lights is world renowned for its legendary high. One problem, just about every grower on earth know is a Sensi Seeds strain.
Sensi Seeds even has traidmarks on their strains yet BC Bud Depot still steals the names. THey sell "Sweet Island Skunk" which was originally Island Sweet Skunk but Federation Seeds got on  their ass about it so they switched the two of the words. They claim their Burmese Kush is THSeeds version crossed with OG Kush from L.A. yet they use the original picture from THSeeds site. Chocolate Chunk which to my amazement they actually give credit to THSeeds for coming up with yet they claim it's a IBL when it's a F-1.

They sell seeds from Soma Seeds yet Soma Says "BCBD is shady as hell and i wouldn't do business with em even if the owner had a gun to my head"

If your gonna come up with your own strains fine but then stealing the names of others work and putting it on your strains is just plain fucked up. Then claim their version is better yet use pictures from the original breeders sites. 

Don't take my word for it do some research before buying from these guys is all it takes.

They claim "BC Bud Depot also collaborates with other world renowned breeders to bring you the very best and most comprehensive marijuana seed bank in the world today." Only thing is somebody should tell the other breeders.


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    #580166 - 08/22/11 05:25 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Uuuh....so you recomend me to look at other people's recomendations (reviews)?
however I did that (google only to be honest) for amstardammarijuanaseedbank.com, and it was mostly good. Now that I looked into it (cheese fem. was 110$. Kinda hard to let it go), I see people bashing them. And still they have a majority of good reviews. What I was really hoping for is insight; for example someone who you did buisness with.

Ofcourse I fully understand if, for w.e reason, you dont feel like sharing that info.
But do you know if those seed adds in Skunk magazine are real? The ones where you pay by money order. (i.e. I live in a state where its illegal to cure eating/sleeping disorders)


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    #580171 - 08/22/11 05:54 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

i dont know i have grown an array of blueberries and the ones from BC bud depot are THE BEST i have ever seen. beat the pants off Dj shorts. as for alot of their strains they offer yes they use others genetics obviously but they back cross into their own to legitimize the seeds and as far as customer service and quality seeds is concerned its the best i have experienced hands down.

honestly when it comes down to it, who the fuck cares where they got their genetics from when they are the best (better then the genetics they apperently jacked) and are for a wicked price and have awesome customer service.

when im growing chronic all i care about is the quality. people have been jacking other peoples shit since the beginning of commerce at least bc bud depot has the courtesy of back crossing it into their own genetics. and FYI island sweet skunk was strait jacked from a breeder on texada island by federation seeds, same with their romulan and many others. Almost every one of federations genetics have been stolen from local growers in the area.

the thing with genetics especially when ALOT of them float around a small area like vancouver island and bc. is everyone knows eachother and clones/seeds have a way of making their way into everyones hands.


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    #580180 - 08/22/11 06:34 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Lol guess I dont belong in this conversation. Hopefully in a little bit i'll be able to look back at this journal and know wtf is going on:)


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    #580203 - 08/22/11 07:28 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

sorry for dragging this shit into your thread dude


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    #580208 - 08/22/11 07:53 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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strait jacked from a breeder on texada island by federation seeds,


Actually it was jacked from Spice of Life seeds. Source is Cannabible 3 p.222



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are the best (better then the genetics they apperently jacked) and are for a wicked price and have awesome customer service.


That's kind of the thing here. They don't claim to cross to their own strains. Their blueberry "BC Blueberry is a mostly Indica strain, that dates back to the late 1970's" that is DJ Shorts Blueberry. Then there is Blue Buddha which they claim is "Oregon Blueberry x Buddahs Sister". That is a cross of DJ Short and Soma's strains. They don't do anything other then make F-2s simple as that and they have been busted by many breeders for doing so. In order to cross to their own genetics they would have to have their own genetics to cross to. That's kind of the reason that when people talk about the top strains out they never come up.
Their strains are carried by Attitude seed bank and are being phased out for a reason.

They sell Reeferman seeds which is a surprise since he's been busted lying about his strains so many times even Seed Boutique won't sell em and Attitude has just got rid of him.
Claiming to have Soma's seeds when Soma himself says he never supplied them. Yeah that sounds like awesome customer service. That is if straight up ripping off people is good customer service.
Delta 9 Labs does not have them listed on their site as a seller of their seeds. THSeeds also does not have them listed a retailer of their seeds.

I can only find 1 good review of their customer service and that is right here in this thread. Even Canadians don't have anything good to say about them. 


Like I said to anybody looking to buy seeds don't take my word for it or anybody else here just go and do a little research then make your decision.

http://www.seedbankupdate.com/su.html


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    #580222 - 08/22/11 09:22 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Lol its fine, really. I love obsorbing new info. I just want to get to the point where im addicted to reading and researching.
but even though I did not go far into strains, I understand that even if the seeds they sell are "better" then what they are supposed to be, it still makes things worse for experianced growers, who choose strains based on how the plant grows (like if buds grow from bottom up, you prolly dont want to scrog), not just on it being "better".
Also, for personal grows, it is much more important to get the exact strain you need, then to increase yield and/or potentcy.

Magash, sorry I somehow missed that link in your first answer. Thought it was a refference to another shitty seed bank. Btw, no progress on the jars; the one that got 4cc's is condensating droplets now:( it is now the only one left with micropore tape on the inoc holes to prevent contam.

Btw I see people trading on here and I would love to get in on that, but:
Is there something I need to do to be trusted? (not in the sense that I will scheeme, im willing to send first)
Can I offer money? I mean, I can offer equipment and stuff, but I would just go and buy it n.eway lol
I'D REALLY APRECIATE IT IF SOMEONE COULD ANSWER THIS ASAP. thanks in advance.


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    #580230 - 08/22/11 10:02 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I've ordered from drchronic,attitude, seedboutique, and bcbd, and I had not one problem with any of them, but one. You can guess which one that was....:yesnod: bcbd! I was ripped off over 250 bucks and basically told that they sent it and what happened after that was my problem. It's a long story that Im not gettin into cuz it happened so long ago, but I wouldn't order from them if there were no seeds left on the planet but there!


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    #580236 - 08/22/11 10:32 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

"Is there something I need to do to be trusted?"  Once your a member for a certain period of time or have so many posts the trade forum will open up to you. (Sorry I forget which it is.)

Remember it's only been 4 days and brf can take a while. They start slow esp with the moisture off. 4cc a syringe is pretty off but they should start. (I can't promise anything though)

There are quite a few people here that know way more then I do about the shrooms
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/2

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    #580253 - 08/23/11 12:31 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

The trade forum is an actual forum??:O ..expression?
Anyway, im a noob so i assume it'll take me a while. I guess ill just order some more syringes.
And it's been 5 days, but also, I only messed with the watter content on the first 2 jars (first 1 got 4 cc second 3), the rest are fine, and the last 2 got a half cc each.
Ill still leave them up there cause i'll be using different jars (wbs) and everything. Btw, I put one on top of the light fixture I made. Just to see what happens lol..


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    #580262 - 08/23/11 01:21 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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    #580310 - 08/23/11 09:52 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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    #580414 - 08/23/11 04:15 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Maah :heart: :mushroom2:



I saw (and killed) two small flies(too small to tell what kind) in the groroom. Should I be woried? I checked the whole space very thoroughly after, and found nothing.


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    #580417 - 08/23/11 04:34 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Get some sticky fly strips, NOT the kind that contain poisons, just the kind that are sticky. :smile: Thats just my preference, some people dont mind poisons in their rooms, I however will not put poisons in my room. I would rather lose a crop to infestation then put poisons in with my product, I wont put anything in the tent unless I would smoke the end product as well. :thumbup:


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    #580421 - 08/23/11 04:44 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks, that was fast.
Im at my conv. Store right now, but all they have is the poison ones. Would a certain type of tape work? Or does it need some kind of bait


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    #580431 - 08/23/11 05:08 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I forget which ones I had gotten when I needed them, all I know is it said it was just sticky with some type of bait. And others listed there was some type of poison in it so I didnt get those. I mean it's not like the things emit a poison or anything, I just didnt want the sticky stuff to accidentally touch a bud etc etc.


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    #580440 - 08/23/11 05:43 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Gochu :thumbup:
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    #580448 - 08/23/11 06:06 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I hung them in each corner of the tent and one above the light and each one was catching them. After a while I didn't need them any more, but I also stopped using soil completely. I tried getting as close to the plants as possible without touching them and I think I even put one down on the top of the pots and wrapped it around to touch the top of each pot.I did wait quite a while before I actually did anything about the flies because they weren't harmful, just annoying as hell. But those traps definitely took care of the problem :thumbup:


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    #580457 - 08/23/11 07:48 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

If they are white flys you want the yellow colored sticky cards. They are very attracted to them and they can help control a white fly problem without using any poisons. :thumbup:


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    #580489 - 08/23/11 10:06 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Ok thanks ill grab a few tomorow. Do you think a gardening/hydroponics store will have them? Or just random convinience store?
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    #580501 - 08/23/11 10:39 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Hydro stores will have as will most hardware stores in the garden section near where they keep the pesticides. :potleaf:


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    #581304 - 08/27/11 12:45 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Update!
this is about 3 days into flowering, and I was about to start using fox farm nutes, but then I noticed about 4 lower fan leafs' tips got yellow and crispy. I researched it and it came up as n overdose or over watering every time..i watered h2o 2 times after the last update so im stumped. I know it can be ph (waiting for a ph meter from htgsupply right now), but I have no way to find out, and I used stirctly poland spring water the whole time.


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    #581310 - 08/27/11 12:58 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Get the drops from the hydro store or a pool ph kit from the hardware store. Water the plants then check the ph of the runoff.



Myself I hate ph meters and just use these drops. Plus they are only about 6 bucks. :wink:


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRAT LY appreciated [Re: Magash]
    #581355 - 08/27/11 09:20 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Dimo, looks like your water is probably about a ph of 6.4 according to This But I'm sure it varies a bit. But yeah, I would definitely pick up some drops while you wait for the shipment. Also, I would use distilled water before I used spring water.


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    #581439 - 08/27/11 04:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Went to 2 little hardware store and Ace,  but they didn't have the drops. The package should be here monday and the yellowing has not increased any more since I watered 3 days ago. Im still not going to feed untill I know the ph..even though the girls are looking hella hungry.
The 5 ak48 seeds are almost done germinating, so I made a closet groroom for seedlings. Total of 4220 lumens in 1.5 x 1.75ft space. Good nuff?



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    #581593 - 08/28/11 11:38 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Getting white/yellow tips and leafs curling up all over the place :eek:


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    #581601 - 08/28/11 12:13 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

On the seedlings or the more mature plants?


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    #581636 - 08/28/11 03:56 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Mature plants..the big one died
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    #581641 - 08/28/11 04:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Ok,the plant died in just a matter of days? I'm gonna have to say they were overfed. When you were suspicious of them being overfed you should have taken the chance and flushed them. That means if they were say in a 1 gallon pot then you pour 3 gallons of water threw it or 3 times the size of the pot.

Reason if they were overfed and not flushed then they just kept sitting in the hot soil frying.


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    #581790 - 08/28/11 11:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Ooh..wow. I thought even if it was too much, I would wash it away by watering w/ h20.
I flushed the survivor just now, but it was never as sick, so I used about 1 1/2 galons. Is that enouph?

She actually looks better then yesterday. Also, I was about to throw my brf jars out when I saw 4 colonizing:)



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    #582077 - 08/30/11 01:47 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Survivor might not survive after all. Lower leafs are yellowing and dieing rapidly; there has been almost no growth sinse yesterday, but I know that might be because of the flush...still, I only used 1.5 galons and the leafs are still suffering. So, flush again or wait?


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    #582084 - 08/30/11 01:55 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

When you flushed, how much water came out the bottom of the pots?


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    #582087 - 08/30/11 02:02 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Magash said
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Myself I hate ph meters and just use these drops. Plus they are only about 6 bucks.




I'm glad to hear an experienced grow say that.  Meters stress me out, lol...

Also, have your pH drops arrived yet?


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    #582088 - 08/30/11 02:02 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Also, I was about to throw my brf jars out when I saw 4 colonizing:)


I told ya :crazy2:

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When you flushed, how much water came out the bottom of the pots?




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    #582108 - 08/30/11 02:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

My package was delayed cause of hurracane Irene. But its my day off tommorow and im going to hunt some drops down no matter what.
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    #582156 - 08/30/11 09:33 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You need to flush more then, that's not enough IMO. I am not a soil grower, but I started in soil so have a little bit of experience so I may be wrong. But I personally, if flushing, would want at least 2-3 times the size of the container to actually come out the bottom of the pot.
If little to no water comes out when you flush, then you haven't really "flushed" anything out. Can you get some full plant shots and some close up of the leaves? But flush more first!


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    #582161 - 08/30/11 09:51 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I also should mention that when watering, I always watered slowly until water started dripping out the bottoms and would continue watering a little while after that. When I first grew, I tried a few different methods and just saturating the soil and stopping before water came out the bottom I noticed problems arose quickly in those plants.


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    #582224 - 08/30/11 03:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the tip c99hunter!
I only had enouph time to flush (not even) before lights off. Ill post pics later on today.
basically, the bottom few sets of leafs are the only ones going yellow, but upper ones are curling up at the tiny tips EVERYWHERE -_-
well my ups guy just came by, and no stg package. Im off to evey store under "hydroponics", that Bing.com can find. I will not be stoping for tea.


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    #583344 - 09/03/11 08:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

First Offence!
Yep I got bagged by undercover piggies
They wondered why I lauphed in their faces the whole time....shit youre probably wondering that. Well, my charges are:
Public nudity
Littering
Resisting arrest

Yep....took a shit outside, and refused to pull my pants up right away (btw I REALLY HAD to do it+was drunk). I am going to post the full halarious story, but not in this thread...
But dont worry I wiped before being manhandled to bookings....hence the resisting arrest. It was almost fun to get arrested for something non grug related. The dumb D's were soo siries about it too lol. "sir?.....SIR! What is going on here??" XD im shitin'
Gotta love good all american BACON.

the ph turned out to be 6.2. This is after the second flush, BUT, yesturday (the day after flush) it was 5ish o.o
I bought a bag of GH flower nutes, and will swich to that (starting at 1/2 strength), to see if Fox Farm was the problem.
Overall the lady's fine but lower leafs yellow and fall off exponentially. I will deffinetly post pics tonight, had a lot of shit to take care of lately....apparently 6 month probation + 36hr community service is a fit punnishment for pooping (resisting was dropped)


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    #583360 - 09/03/11 10:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Have you been adjusting the ph of the nutrients before giving them to the plants. Your suppose to mix then adjust then water.

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    #583621 - 09/05/11 12:48 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Ya I ph everything now lol. I took an empty cup, filled it w/ my soil mix and watered it with same nutes as I use (fox farm), then measured the runoff of that. I just watered the day before so I figured this was the best I could do. Came out beetween 6 & 7 but closer to 6.



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    #583623 - 09/05/11 12:53 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Btw, I only have dolomite lime as ph^, and no ph down. Is is bad to have a ph of more then 7, or is low ph only bad cuz it burns the roots?

P.S. Sorry for slacking on the pics, my browser force closes 9/10 times when I try to upload:(  ill try to keep them coming every day from now on tho.


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    #583631 - 09/05/11 04:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You want to keep that ph in the 6.5 range but 7 is tolerable. Those strains will work but you want to get them from someplace other then Dutch Passion.


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    #583682 - 09/05/11 02:02 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah it says upper cannada seed bank and then dutch passion, so it was confusing.
I'm paranoid to order from the U.S. cause I live in a non-medicinal state so I think they would track it or something....but now that I think about it, I didnt base that on ANYTHING >.< lol. But really, is it safe?

Also, I couldn't find the martha closet or anything like it at home depot or k-mart. Starting to think I wont find one anywhere. So what do you think is a next best fruiting chamber (if sterility is most important, and budget is no problem)?
Btw, whats your opinion on the "flip pf jars after 50% colonization" thing? mine are just a little past that, and the rate of colonization seems to be slowing down. but then again, I might just be telling myself that...fiendin to go on a trip:mushroom2:


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    #583709 - 09/05/11 05:38 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Nah, when they find that seeds are being sent they take the seeds out of the package and put in a note saying that they have taken the seeds and that if you want to try to get them it tells you how to contact them. (which I don't suggest you do if you ever get one)

As far as the closet goes ends up they can be found at a lot of different places. Just about any department store and I'm sure bed bath and beyond has them.

They look like this


Do a search under portable closets.


Yeah flipping the jars is a good idea. Remember there not grain jars there brf so they take way longer then doing rye or wbs. I've had brf jars take two months, also the right temps are crucial to there success. When the jars are fully colonized on the outside give then two more days or so for the centers to finish because if there not finished and you try to fruit them they will rot or mold before you see any shrooms.


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    #584002 - 09/06/11 10:38 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks, gotchu.

Update (the pics are from yesturday.)



The last pic is the ak48sm. Im keeping them under 4 26watt cfls for now (24/7 lights on). Theres also 3 poppy plants in there (got them free w/ my spores, so threw them in the ground and 3 sprouted.), hopefully they will help reduce smell later on.


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    #584014 - 09/06/11 12:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I've grown a lot of poppies. I've also harvested a million poppy heads.
Been using them for many years on and off for pain.
Just so you know I'm no stranger to poppies.

How, may I ask, will the poppies reduce the smell in the room?


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    #584043 - 09/06/11 04:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Just an educated (or, I guess, not) guess. I thought every plant has a smell, even if not a very strong one.
And I did say that I basically dont know anything about poppys. And I do have 2 more reasons for doing this:
1. Im really unexperienced when it comes to plant life in general, so (if im lucky) this might turn into a learning experience.
2. I kiinda always wanted to experiment w/ opium, but everything out in the streets is dirty (i assume you know wat I mean, o king of poppys :b)

Do you think i'll be able to grow them tograther with the girls? And whats a good pot size for blue afgani poppy (as in to minimize space)?


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    #584080 - 09/06/11 08:02 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Ok, I got an offer from a friend (the only other person who knows whats going on in my closet;) ). He wants to pay for a nice setup, and let me keep it after. For this he wants 2 pounds of piff. With what he can invest, I can buy 4 400 watters, and ventilation/reflectors/blah. My only consern is electricity spikes tipping the cops off.
I did read all the posts relating to this, but if someone could please reasure me that about 3500w (w/ veg. lighys and all) is normish/safeish it would solve all of my problems. I will not be using ANY other appliences in that location. 3500 is not even going to be used, thats a safety number.


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    #584081 - 09/06/11 08:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Oh, and if this isnt an appropriate question for a journal, please let me know. I just realised that might be the case.


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    #584084 - 09/06/11 08:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

That kind of usage would run me about 130 bucks a month if running it 12 hours a day for 30 days. If you're not using anything else at the site then that usage is pretty low.

As for 2 elbows for 4 400 watters, He is definitely getting the better end of the deal by FAR! My god dude, your end product should be around 3-4 grand a lb. Not to mention, you will need much more then just the 4- 400 watt lamps, ventilation, nutes, electric consumption, etc etc.


edit, just realized you mentioned the ventilation etc etc with the 4 lights my bad. But I would still not do it. There is no guarantee that you will pull that your first go around, and friends become enemies quick if they become greedy and 9 times out of ten......in this game.....they will..........especially if they are not the one growing and know where the grow is at,they start feeling entitled to the fruits of YOUR labor. Add THEIR money to the situation and it makes it even worse. Its A TERRIBLE idea in MY opinion.


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    #584089 - 09/06/11 08:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Great sucsess!! Yak sh'mash!
No really, im very happy. Thank you very much sir.

And bro, cmon, im going to have 2 pounds (if I yield .5g/w) every month after, cause im doing sog. I would never be able to save up the 3k to start it though. And hoooly shit, can u sell ME a pizza for 3000?? Best I get is 4800, and I still resell it for more....to people who sell it again lol.

btw, do you think its better to use cfls or t5s for mother/clones. Ive read so many different takes on this lately, that I confused myself -.-


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    #584090 - 09/06/11 08:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I'd listen to what c99 said. 2 lbs for what your saying and your loosing out big-time.

With what you could get for that 2 lbs would pay for the grow system your talking about 3 or 4 times.


As far as the power spike 3600 isn't shit. When they look for grow ops with power they look for more like 8000 watt spikes. (Unless your here in Cali where they don't give a shit cause all my gardens are 8000 watts each. :wink: )


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    #584094 - 09/06/11 09:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I literary have no other words but - I fucking love you guys for this. Fastest replys to most important questions!...man I gotta figure out a way to repay(lack of a better term) you people.

And yeah, its a bad deal, but hes my best friend since high school , so im glad hes gonna make a lot.
I would still never agree to this, if I could somehow afford the setup myself; the same guy let me borrow money for my hps too...
Oh and another thing is, he is paying my rent (700/m) for the next 3 months.

Basically I dont care if im being ripped off, or doing too much work for a while or w.e., but thanks a lot for the advice, I know you mean best:) and know best lol


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    #584095 - 09/06/11 09:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Ok gotchu, t5s it is. Didnt even notice cause im so excited >.>

Also, my friend said he found a shroom connect but they are black, and he says there amazon...bs, or possible?


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    #584097 - 09/06/11 09:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

There black? Yeah eat those at your own risk but no way in fucking hell I'd eat em.


With the 2100 bucks you basicly owe him for the rent and the price of the grow stuff he said he'd buy it comes out close to even I guess. (even enough) :growingweed:


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    #584116 - 09/06/11 10:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah now (like an hour later) he says there truffles...a little too sketchy for me.

And, truth is, hes making more then 100% proffit. Its 3000 for equipment and 2100 rent, but like I said, its very easy to get 5000 a P where im from, and he sells by O's for 400 each so its even more. It used to be much worse when I started toking though; finding quality buds period, for any price was rare, while regs (and I mean reg regs, where you get as much seeds/stems as flowers per bag) were selling for 15 a gram.
Another thing I didnt mention is he agreed to let me keep an oz of each strain (3 of em), if I only get 2 pounds combined...im hoping for like 1000 grams tho :b. Thats .65/w...reasonable expectations? Btw I decided on Big Bud, White Widow and Skunk(forgot which exactly) from attitude seed bank.


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    #584119 - 09/06/11 10:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Haha I told the connect that I know hes trying to scheme, and he said this: "yo you dont know shit about shrooms, there supposed to be black if there dry"

I wonder how many people will get poisoned by this ass...i would have totally belived him if this happened a year ago. Thank god for the shroo/grow erys.


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    #584195 - 09/07/11 07:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Do any of these look black?


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    #584205 - 09/07/11 09:13 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Update.
and she finally stinks! Heavy skunky smell:)



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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRAT LY appreciated [Re: Dimo114]
    #584206 - 09/07/11 09:21 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Are they black or purple? In the past, if I handled mine VERY rough before they were dry they would sometimes look black but were actually blue/purple. I never shared those ones tho because I didn't want people thinking it was normal for them to be that color.

It could just be bruising or it could be the wrong type of shroom or even mold. We would have to have pics to tell more tho :shrug:
Are the caps black too? I've never managed to bruise my caps and no matter what color the stems are my caps are still always the same.


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    #584211 - 09/07/11 10:10 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Nope, just black, and gray in places.  And from what I understand, they were so crumpled up, that it was impossible to tell caps from stems (my friend described it as " crispy, thin potato-chip-lookin' shit" lol...gotta love the hood:), I did'nt see them myself though, just talked to the connect over the phone.
I know dry is good, but the guy said theyre supposed to be black BECAUSE they are dry. Im starting to think he got misinformed as well though,  because he was defending that statement like a female lion defends her cubs lol.


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRAT LY appreciated [Re: Dimo114]
    #584214 - 09/07/11 11:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Well that statement is completely wrong :rofl: You should take a pic with your phone of magash's pic and show the dude and let him know that THATS what they are supposed to look like!


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    #584251 - 09/07/11 01:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Word. About to do it right now.

Quick question, is it possible to regenerate an auto? If so, is the proceedure the same as w/ normal plants?
I want to regenerate it enouph to take a few clones, cause w/ my luck the bagseed is probably a he...

ofcourse, I heard that you cant clone autos countless times, but recently found a grow journal where Lowryder #2 was regenerated twice.


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    #584574 - 09/08/11 08:58 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Update.



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    #584575 - 09/08/11 09:35 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Theres pale-green spots all over the inner parts of new leafs. Can it be light damage? Its the only pot wrapped in foil, and it was up on the pot that is standing upside down in the pic.



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    #584593 - 09/08/11 01:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I was also wondering if a grow lamp(hps) is compatible with a regular security light ballast. I found this one http://www.e-conolight.com/wall-packs/cutoff/cut-off-250-400w-hid/e-wpdh40qz.html and even though the price is right (pun not intended), I want to be able to upgrade.

Also, if anyone has a good idea for a diy air-collable refllector, help a brotha out!:cool: Wwwww


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRAT LY appreciated [Re: Dimo114]
    #584598 - 09/08/11 01:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

A pyrex bake around is a good start for a DIY cool tube :wink:
Also, you can get 400 watters designed for gardens with remote ballasts and reflectors for equal and less then the price you posted :thumbup:


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    #584602 - 09/08/11 02:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Now I know, thanks:stoned:
Its just that a 400watt hps system is 355 at my hydro store :/


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    #584603 - 09/08/11 02:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

So is it still too early to tell the sex on that plant?



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    #584655 - 09/08/11 09:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Now I know, thanks:stoned:
Its just that a 400watt hps system is 355 at my hydro store :/




What kind is it?


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    #584659 - 09/08/11 09:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Lumatek. I know its one of the most expensive brands, but there is no other hydro stores within 10 miles of me, and this one only carries lumatek ballasts.
I saw a 400watter at htgsupply.com for around 2 (with good air-coolable reflector & shipping), but I wouldnt want to order something that obvious from a site that im not sure of. I did get my ph test kit there, and I ordered a security light online for myself (im looking for quality lamps for a different grow) from some hardware store's website.
I need 4 of them too, so if pigs are watching there gonna get interested.:eek:

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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRAT LY appreciated [Re: Dimo114]
    #584724 - 09/09/11 09:35 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Htg and rvf are both good vendors. Rvf is a sponsor here so you could prolly talk to him here before you ordered as well. I can say that I have never had a grow lamp delivered to where anyone could tell what the contents was.

I did have a hydro unit shipped once (from ebay or amazon I forget) that showed up in the original manufacturers box with pictures all over the fucking box. I was pissed as hell, but it was at a safe addy with a huge veggie garden in the front yard so didn't look too bad :rofl:

Any ways, most places try to be as discreet as possible, but others dont care.And Im sure RVF and htg are pretty discreet :thumbup:


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    #584740 - 09/09/11 11:45 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks!
well my budget for that grow just went from 3k to 1500...

Here is what im planning on ordering:
2 600 htg digital ballast
2 grobright hps lamps
1 grobright mh lamp
2 6" cool tubes
2 151 cfm fans(forget which)
1 carbon filter
Lots of b/w polly
Duct muffler (this is going to happen in an apt)

im planning on getting soil, nutes and cloning supplys at my hydro store. the growroom is going to be 6 x 4. Am I missing something?


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    #584790 - 09/09/11 02:27 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yesterday night pics



Would I be able to tell if it is a male or female, if I had a 40x microscope?


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    #585084 - 09/10/11 10:17 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Got my 400 watter yesterday.
Should I keep the 2week ak48 seedlings in there (its a 4x2 closet), or take them back to the 2x2 closet where I have 4 42watt cfls? The temps climbed up to 85 at tops btw, but Im guessing thats ok for now.


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    #585110 - 09/10/11 01:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Just saw the edit, and I agree. The more I think about it, and the more I talk to the guy, the more problems I see along the way.
The situation changed though. He is now ready to invest only 1500, and expects a pound in 3 months. This is better, because I can get 2 600watters+equipment+soil/nutes, so my chances of yielding that much are ok (as far as I understand.)

But yeah, you were deffinetly right about friends turning on you. Hes already acting like I report to him...


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Re: First grow, 12 powerfull cfls, soil. ANY help will be GRAT LY appreciated [Re: Dimo114]
    #585163 - 09/10/11 03:56 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

First I see you have pics called "night pics". Now if your lighting the plants during their night period esp during flowering that shit stops now. Take your night pics just after the lights go out or right before they turn on or you have a chance of stressing them and causing hermie flowers.

Just how big do you plan to let the plants get before flowering and how many do you expect to grow? Plus what strain do you plan to grow? Reason is if those plants you plan on growing are like the ones now and not at least 3 times the size and quiet a few more of them the chances of you not hitting a lb in 3 months are better then the chances of you pulling it off.

Partnerships rarely work out in the growing game esp when one of the people has all the money and isn't doing the growing. Never mind the fact that he's laying time demands on you. Take your time and earn the lights yourself. Just some advise and I'm willing to bet (going from what I've read in this thread) that if you decide to do it it's gonna come back to bite you in the ass.

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    #585185 - 09/10/11 05:02 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Well I did take night pics right before lights off, but I didnt know a sexchange opperation can happen any time in the plant's life.thought it was just flowering

And I think you underestimate (i dont throw words like that around) me a little.
the grow I want to get a p from will be 24 plants, 24 sq. ft, 1200watts. I wanted to do 4 plants per sq. ft., but realised I wont have that many clones. I will be using 3 recomended strains - cheese, heavy duty fruity and big bud. I will be vegging for 14 days then 12/12.
I LITERARY read everything you ever posted about SoG (hopefully thats not creepy), because I figured if I copy a sucsess, I might just get a half-ass result. But now that I did this, I just feel sooo confident. I have 0 questions regarding what to do.

I now understand how right you and c99hunter were when you said this partnership is a bad idea.. I was sure that I know the guy like I know myself, but hes already turning on me, acting like
he is boss and I am stock boy. But its too late :'( the lease for the apt. was sighned 3 days ago. There is another way out of it, but im not sure its any easyer. He agreed to 2 p's of shrooms instead. If its a month earlyer.


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    #585186 - 09/10/11 05:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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    #585228 - 09/10/11 07:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Damn it my bad. I forgot you were planning to a SOG and you did tell me. I just get a lot of PM's and stuff and tend to get peoples grows mixed up. 4 per sq foot is good. Each of those 600 will do a 9x9 square with some scraggly plants on the outer edges outside the 9x9 area. Don't forget you can make bubble hash from the scraggly plants and the trim off of the the good buds.

Once you get good at the hash thing you won't even want to smoke the bud.


but that is for a later time. You have good strains picked but remember some strains need more time in veg then others. The strain I used in the pics of the SOG are a strain called Sweet 16 that I bred myself and breeding that strain took me almost 8 years of work to get a strain that grows straight up with almost no branching. To be honest I haven't seen another that really does it like that.

Here's the pic that everybody has seen a million times


Here is a side shot taken a little earlier in flowering that you can see it has minimal branching.


Like I said I bred that strain specifically for SOG grows and I don't know anybody else that has done a project just for SOG growers. I've seen plenty that say good for SOG but not made just for it.


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    #585261 - 09/11/11 12:27 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

No worries, I cant even imagine the amount of people bothering you every day..like me:tongue2: lol. I deff cant imagine balancing that w/ growing 1000 plants and chemo..

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Each of those 600 will do a 9x9 square with some scraggly plants on the outer edges outside the 9x9 area. Don't forget you can make bubble hash from the scraggly plants and the trim off of the the good buds.




Wait 81sq ft per 600watt? O.o I thought its 50watts per sq ft? Or do u mean 9sq ft?

I thought you only did 4 plants per sq ft because you have that strain, but if it will increase yield, ill deffinetly do 4 w/ the strains ill have. Btw do sqare pots really make a difference over growbags?
Also, I saw in some thread, that you sell the strain in cali; I would deffinetly want to get in on that, if thats still the case.:eek:


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    #585265 - 09/11/11 12:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Update.
Got nute burn on the plant that I cant figure out the sex of. flushed w/ 2.5 galons of ph'd poland spring, ph of the runoff was 6.5. The hps really fucks w/ my phone cammera, ill try to get a new one asap...but heres the best I can do for now



First is the pic of the burn. A lot of leafs are like this...
Second is the flowering auto
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    #585304 - 09/11/11 03:47 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Or do u mean 9sq ft?




Yup, 9 sq ft for each 600watter.

I fucked up I meant each 600 will do a 3x3 ft square. Man I'm really on the fucking ball today.


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Btw do square pots really make a difference over growbags?


Not really esp if you consider that you can make the grow bags into a square shape if you want as your filling them with soil. I've never found enough of a difference to do that though.


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    #585438 - 09/11/11 07:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Ok got it. So 9sq ft times 4 plants per ft times (this is a worst case senario, im guessing) 5g a plant comes out to 180g per 600 watts. So beetween the two 600watters I will yield about 12.5 oz :/
I read that you got a half ounce average per plant (for a total of almost 2 pounds with my setup), but I understand that thats impossible without that strain, and that topaz-green thumb lol. But shouldnt sog get me .5 grams per watt at least? In the senario above im getting like .27.
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    #585452 - 09/11/11 08:27 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Up da te
after flushing, the plant that was burned went fucking beserk. and so did the plant with the white dots....wiiiierd



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I read that you got a half ounce average per plant (for a total of almost 2 pounds with my setup), but I understand that thats impossible without that strain, and that topaz-green thumb lol. But shouldnt sog get me .5 grams per watt at least? In the senario above im getting like .27.




Many strains can keep up with Sweet 16 in yeild when it comes to SOG Sweet 16 just make things easy. Now you should be able to get .5 grams per watt with the strains you have chosen but remember I didn't use 600watters I used 1000s. I'm not a huge fan of 600s. There are more people that like them over 1000s then not though so I wouldn't sweat it.


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    #585517 - 09/11/11 10:15 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Hmm I thought because sweet 16 grows like a baseball bat, you dont have to trim it. And without stress it would concentrate on bud production more.
anyway, I checked it out, and the strains I picked all have 9-10 weeks flowering time. I searched for higher then average yield+8 weeks max, but found nothing. Can you pleease recomend a strain that comes even kinda close to that?
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    #585550 - 09/11/11 11:29 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I had good luck with Doc Atomics Northern Lights. The strain is a 8 week strain and produces well. I used it in SOG. https://www.seedboutique.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=17886&Name=SeedList-Dr-Atomic-Atomic-Northern-Lights&Type=PD

Chimera's C4 was another good one for SOG

https://www.seedboutique.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=17851&Name=SeedList-Chimera-Seeds-C4&Type=PD

Here are a few others I grew out and liked
https://www.seedboutique.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=17925&Name=SeedList-Nirvana-Seeds-Standard-Aurora-Indica&Type=PD

https://www.seedboutique.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=17935&Name=SeedList-Nirvana-Seeds-Standard-Papaya&Type=PD

https://www.seedboutique.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=17940&Name=SeedList-Nirvana-Seeds-Standard-Swiss-Cheese&Type=PD

I had good luck with AK-48 https://www.seedboutique.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=18797&Name=SeedList-Nirvana-Seeds-Standard-AK-48&Type=PD


Other then the AK-48 it's been some time since I've grown out a strain other then my own or one that came from a club. (I've always been fond of Grandaddy Purple)


This one is a huge yielder. https://www.seedboutique.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=18714&Name=SeedList-Mr-Nice-Seeds-Critical-Mass&Type=PD

here is a very good strain that has a 8 week flowering time. Grown it many times.
http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/next-generation-island-sweet-skunk/prod_1690.html

and if you can find a strain called Kish by a breeder named Cash Crop Ken you will want that or a strain called Shiskaberry.


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    #585666 - 09/12/11 10:04 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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thanks magash, exactly what I was looking for.:nyan:

Critical mass is perfect, ill take ak48 because I have ak48 autos right now, so I will get to somewhat see how they grow and what is normal. I never got my cheese seeds from amstardam seed bank, so swiss cheese is perfect too.

By the way, the auto that I have flowering is deffinetly lowryder #2. I got it for free with my ak48 autos, so I didnt know untill now and thought it was near-impossible to tell but I stumbled on a journal where the guy was growing lowryder, and it looked just like mine did at that age http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/566112#566112

I decided to try cloning right now, even though I dont know the sex of my plant, at least to have more branches to clone later if its a girl. im guessing for every one I chop, 2 will grow? Or does that only apply to the top (hst)?
Im making a dome from a steralite container and going to be using 3" fiber pots and 60/40 perlite/vermiculite medium...budget issues. Im going to use mg rooting hormone because it was the only one at ACE. Pics coming up.


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    #585737 - 09/12/11 03:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Ta da


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You want to keep that humidity up pretty high. Treat em like they they are mushrooms. :wink:


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    #585959 - 09/13/11 09:37 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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You want to keep that humidity up pretty high. Treat em like they they are mushrooms. :wink:




Its funny you should say that, im actually using perlite for humidification:mushroom2:. I filled a cup with perlite, added water untill wet, poured acces water off and slammed the cup on the tray, creating mt. Perlite :idea:. Did this 4 times, and misted the shit out of the closet every few hours yesterday, but have work 9-9 today, so im not sure the clones will make it.

Btw, the more I think about it, the more sense I see in getting 1000 watters instead of 600. The price difference is like 50$, but I was wondering if you remember the cfm and number of fans you used for the 2 1000 setup. I have the room for it, thats for sure.


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    #585966 - 09/13/11 09:58 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Update.
the LR is 7 weeks old today, and still only showing white hairs. Getting frosty though. :bow2: ..wish I had a decent cammera.


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    #585997 - 09/13/11 03:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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. The price difference is like 50$, but I was wondering if you remember the cfm and number of fans you used for the 2 1000 setup. I have the room for it, thats for sure.


At that time I used 1 - 8 inch fan. I forget the exact airflow that it had but it was more then I needed.


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    #586027 - 09/13/11 07:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks:)
And wow, I already have 2 6" inline fan+carbon filter (Tallboy) combos. They are 250-somethin cfm, but with the filters im guessing about 100. BUT I do have a (literary) unlimited supply of computer fans, and I just had a crazy idea that just might work. I am going to construct ducting compleatly from 6" computer fans (ok like 4 per ft), and once I figure out how to manage  the spider web of wires that come with the idea, ill be able to turn on as many as I need to have a steady temp. all year round!....too crazy? The only problem I see is too much weight, but HTG has hangars for like 12$ so I think im going threw with this.


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    #586429 - 09/15/11 01:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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    #586589 - 09/16/11 09:28 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Should I trim away the lower leafs & shots? Or is it too late for that?


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    #587393 - 09/19/11 02:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

The clones rooted, So I picked the 4 best ones and put them on 12/12 under 165watts of cfl for now. I want to use my hps for flowering, but I still have the autos under it. How would a 12/12 schedule effect autoflowers? Would potentcy be reduced?



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    #587408 - 09/19/11 02:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think a 12/12 will fuck with the autos. The potency will be the same. :growingweed:


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    #587409 - 09/19/11 03:29 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

O.O woow
I had the whole concept of autoflowers wrong. I thought the extra light all season long enables them to fully mature in 2 months or so. Time to explore the magical world of google:nyan:

So I guess i'll put my cfl fixture back togeather and use that closet for moms. Ill move the 400watter to a different area once my cooltube finally gets here.


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    #587507 - 09/20/11 01:41 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

So I read up on lighting schedules for autos and most people say the only downside of 12/12 is longer flowering time, which is fine w/ me. I bought a Vornado high velocity fan that I want to put in a diy door, and use a few computer fans to cool the reflector directly.



The clones looked so hungry, I had to give them something lol...mixed about 2 pinches of general hydroponics veg nutes and fed 2. They had pretty good roots when I planted them so i think they'll be fine.


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    #588507 - 09/24/11 08:29 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Just got the cooltube :laugh: planning to start moving plants tommorow. The bagseed moms are going under 168watts of cfl, giving me room for 13 clones in 6" pots (im probably going to use growbags though, cant find square pots anywhere).
Im going to start a new journal for the 4 ak48's (which just started flowering) and the clones.

Anyways, im planning to harvest in about a week...too early? I can get some night pics tommorow if it'll help.


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    #588696 - 09/25/11 05:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

well she's 60 days old today, probably going to harvest in a week or so. Im going to feed her one more time and flush 2 days later.
Still not sure about harvest time though...heres some nightpics in case anyone is still watching.


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    #588703 - 09/25/11 05:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)


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    #590162 - 10/04/11 01:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Flushing tommorow and harvesting in about a week:blazed:


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    #590342 - 10/04/11 08:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Killer. :thumbup::omgawesome:


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    #590995 - 10/07/11 01:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Almost there...


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    #591068 - 10/07/11 06:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

NICE!  :popcorn:  :thumbup:  :thumbup:


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    #591399 - 10/10/11 09:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

74g wet:bow2:
Is it realistic to expect 14g dry? (didnt water for a week before harvest)
Also is it ok to dry my buds that way? They are on a ovenrack w/ cheesecloth over it. The bucket is full of desicant


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    #591653 - 10/11/11 05:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yoooooooooou got jumpy and harvested early. Those buds aren't ready. I'd get rid of the desiccant and hang them up and let em natural dry.

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    #591658 - 10/11/11 06:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Shit:eek:
the leafs were starting to turn yellow so I thought theyre done. You think it would be at least ok potency if I cure for a while?
And the stems snap already (72 hours later :/) so I put the buds in paper bags. Is it possible they are dry already? Weight in at 19g


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Also is it ok to dry my buds that way? They are on a ovenrack w/ cheesecloth over it. The bucket is full of desicant





Drying your buds too quickly with a desiccant or heat will make your buds brittle and crumbly. The way to do it is to let them dry slowly and evenly. If your house is too humid a desiccant won't have negative effect unless of course you're making the area the bud is drying too dry.

The way you should do it is hang the buds up on a clothes line or hangers on the stems until the stems will snap when bent. Then they go into paper bags for a couple days. Then they go into jars with you giving them some air for two weeks by opening the jars and rolling the buds around gently so that they get a chance to dry out evenly. After the two week period they're good to stay in the jars until smoked.


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    #591764 - 10/12/11 02:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Wow I totally forgot to mention that I have clones in a closet right next to it, without a vent. system, so I keep the door open. I lift my humidity dome and mist like 10 a day minimum (lost my job recently, doing nothing most of the time), so the rh of the little halway is 60-70%. Plus outside has been about the same for the past few days.
Heres how it looks like.. I have no idea why 2 walk in closets are right next to each other, by the entrance to the house either.


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    #591773 - 10/12/11 02:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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. I have no idea why 2 walk in closets are right next to each other, by the entrance to the house either.





Don't question connivance...

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    #591774 - 10/12/11 02:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What is the RH in the area where the buds are drying?


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    #591783 - 10/12/11 04:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The rh of the drying closet stys at 40 or below after having the door closed for a while. At first it was 60ish (without the dessicant); I dried shrooms the same way...failed at that too lol (16 cakes 2 syringes and 5g dry over 6weeks:nyan:)
Also I kept the buds in paper bags for a day, they lost 2g and the rest of their smell..So 17g dry, premature weed, that smells like dry grass:glittershitz:


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    #591811 - 10/12/11 06:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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So 17g dry, premature weed, that smells like dry grass:glittershitz:




that sucks man I'm sorry to hear that!  :boo:

it looks nice too!


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