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my 1st grow White rhino indoor soil grow under CFL's * 1
    #718138 - 02/27/14 06:13 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

using 4 2800 lume CFL lights and 2 1800 lume CFL light for whit think approximately 6weeks into grow. Doing lst on 2 and the other three not sure yet.

all  5 plants are white rhino

not sure what 2 do next please help

using fox farm soil watering with distilled water every 3 days

doing a closet grow with NASA grade foil surrounding the walls


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #718141 - 02/27/14 06:28 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

WHats the wattage of the bulbs?


Also foil is a bad idea it tends to leave hot spots.


But I don't think NASA used foil so its probably mylar.
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Re: my 1st grow [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #718151 - 02/27/14 06:49 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

they are 150 w equivalent bulbs 2800 lumens each x4 bulbs


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #718173 - 02/27/14 07:41 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Are you just using distilled water or nutes too? If you're six weeks in you want to start fertilizing.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #718174 - 02/27/14 07:43 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

So like, 30 watts approximately?  I have a 23 watt 100W equivalent CFL that I use for little baby seedlings but your array sounds a bit more powerful.  I can't say from experience if that's enough light though.

What do you mean what to do next, though?  If you're 6 weeks in you're in veg still right?  Have the plants shown their sex, or are they from feminized seeds?  Either way, it sounds like you would just keep doing what you're doing (hopefully 18-6 light schedule and watering once the soil is completely dry.).  Once you feel like they're sufficiently bushy and trained, you would change your light cycle to 12-12. 

Are you feeding them anything?  I understand fox farm soil is pretty full of nutrients by itself, maybe even a little hot, but you may want to give them something once you switch to flowering, do you have fox farm's Big Bloom or Tiger Bloom?

Though I may just be rambling if your issue is something totally different.  What's the perceived problem?


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: Inocuole]
    #718289 - 02/27/14 11:13 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

no nutes yet just plain distilled water and yes only watering when soil is dry. I'm going to try to post pics soon so you can see what I have so far. They are feminized seeds so no sexing needed.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #718297 - 02/27/14 11:59 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds good.  Seems like all you need really is to start thinking about nutes.  What size containers are they in?


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: Inocuole]
    #718324 - 02/28/14 08:50 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

right now they are in 12 inch pots expecting to transplant when ready into 5 gallon buckets

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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #718399 - 02/28/14 02:47 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

That sounds like about 3 gallons right?

Also, if you're at 6 weeks it may already be time to put them in the 5 gallon containers anyway.  Depending on the last time you did a transplant those roots may have overtaken the pot.  I was really not expecting how fast the roots take off, given my experience with other plants.

Need to see them pictures. =P


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: Inocuole]
    #718420 - 02/28/14 04:26 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I first used them degradeable pots for the first 4 weeks the roots started growing thru those so I bought those 12 inch 3 gallon pots 2 weeks ago and they took off. They haven't been officially transplanted just yet.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #718428 - 02/28/14 05:17 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Ah okay, that's what mine are in right now too, is the 3 gallon pots, I'm only at about 4 weeks.  But I have nothing else to do most days so I just read and read and read about growing weed.

Good luck with this, looking forward to seeing some results in here later on.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: Inocuole]
    #718431 - 02/28/14 05:24 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

trying to upload pics but they don't show up it says I deleted them but I didn't how to do it.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #718434 - 02/28/14 05:30 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

When I upload pics I do this:

Scroll up to the top, click Pics in the upper left (opens a new window on its own)
Click upload.  Click the browse button to fill in the pictures for each slot, click "Share" to simultaneously check all the boxes, then just click the upload box and it should hook you up with copyable links for every picture, with the forum code already included.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: Inocuole]
    #718435 - 02/28/14 05:32 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Ty I'll try


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #718437 - 02/28/14 05:36 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Welcome lil miss :thumbup:


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: P-O]
    #718444 - 02/28/14 06:06 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

ok I started all these girls same day/time all in same soil and on same watering schedule















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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #718446 - 02/28/14 06:16 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

sorry for any bad lighting not sure what is going on with the 2nd pic its the only one doing that and in the beginning it was the best. Good ph and n-p-k are in good ranges she's just being difficult I guess


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #718447 - 02/28/14 06:28 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Yikes, that second/third pic.

What happened to that plant?  That looks like some outrageous nute burn.  But it could be a deficiency possibly so it might be best to let someone experienced chime in.

Other than that, they look mostly healthy, I see you're doing LST on a couple of them it looks like.  Seems to be working out for you.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: Inocuole]
    #718457 - 02/28/14 07:29 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

doing lst only on two they are responding great. The second and third pic are of same plant all in ffof soil no nutes given so not so sure what is up with it.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #721587 - 03/15/14 05:46 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Hi, hope your project is progressing well!


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: Crunchbird]
    #721811 - 03/17/14 02:45 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I had a couple strains do the same thing in FF. They all grew out of it?? So?? I would just give it plain water no food for like a month. That's how long it took in  2 gal bag for it to look way better. (note The old leaves wont look better but the new growth will be fine.



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Re: my 1st grow [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #722007 - 03/18/14 07:38 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

update girls are growing good. Starting to flower so excited

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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #722050 - 03/18/14 11:53 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

That's great they're starting to flower. Does that mean you've put them on the 12/12 light cycle?  What are you doing for nutes?  Did you transplant?


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: ThriceKing]
    #722072 - 03/19/14 10:51 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

no nutes and could not transplant because when I was going to they were already starting to flower. Not all are flowering 3/5 are flowering. Lights are 12/12. These girls have a mind of there own.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #722073 - 03/19/14 10:55 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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no nutes and could not transplant because when I was going to they were already starting to flower. Not all are flowering 3/5 are flowering. Lights are 12/12. These girls have a mind of there own.


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Hmmm.  You could probably transplant a week in. When you do, now is the time for limited nutes and work your way up. I like "systems" of nutes like fox farm or technaflora. And allow me to extol the virtues of black strap molasses; half to a full teaspoon per gallon of water does amazing things.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: ThriceKing]
    #722074 - 03/19/14 11:23 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

will that affect flowering if I transplant the ones flowering


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #722089 - 03/19/14 01:08 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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will that affect flowering if I transplant the ones flowering




No, you'll be fine. Just take all the usual precautions. I prefer to wait until she's dry, then transplant into wet soil with room for the transplant, them soak and leave alone. She'll love you for it. Wait a week or two to administer light nutes, as the new soil will be "hot", and you want to encourage the roots to "dig in" to find the food in the new soil. A root tonic is an ok idea, but totally not necessary.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: ThriceKing]
    #722093 - 03/19/14 01:15 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

should I transplant @ night when lights are off and what are the best nutes to give them I have vegetable food from mg for my cucumbers and tomatoes could I use that or will that damage them.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #722121 - 03/19/14 02:58 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think you're at a stage where they're going to be that finicky. I'd do it in the middle of their daylight period myself, erring towards "morning".

As far as nutes, pick a good potting soil for the larger containers. Fox Forest Ocean Soil is good, there are many others. Are you going to a grow store/hydroponics shop?  They'll guide you on your budget for sure. Hate saying this, but I along with many others did my first grow with Miracle Grow. MG potting soil will get you started, with fertilizer to follow. They will grow. Those mixes aren't optimized for our little friends, however, and definitely not organic (not necessarily bad).

A good grow store, $30-$40, and a question about growing your "tomatoes" will take you farthest here.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: ThriceKing]
    #722130 - 03/19/14 03:43 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I do use ffof for my soil where I am located we have of course homedepot , Lowe's , menards, farm and fleet and a steins garden center. I typically go to resins for all of my vegetable plants and seeds. I have no issues growing vegetables I have 2 tomatoes growing and 2 cucumber plants growing along side my 5 white rhino.

the food I have is specific for tomatoes plants which I grow often. Would that be an optimal food I could use. Or do they need specific nutes.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #722134 - 03/19/14 04:14 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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I do use ffof for my soil where I am located we have of course homedepot , Lowe's , menards, farm and fleet and a steins garden center. I typically go to resins for all of my vegetable plants and seeds. I have no issues growing vegetables I have 2 tomatoes growing and 2 cucumber plants growing along side my 5 white rhino.

the food I have is specific for tomatoes plants which I grow often. Would that be an optimal food I could use. Or do they need specific nutes.




There's no quick answer to this philosophical question. Might as well ask if God exists. The answer will vary tremendously depending on each person you ask, and you'll learn more about them than really find an answer to the question.

That said, you want to pay attention to the N-P-K score of the fertilizer you are using. They refer to the macronutrients of the soil content, and they're expressed as a ratio IIRC. The nutrients are nitrogen, phosphorous, and potash/potassium. Plants in veg need more nitrogen, while flowering plants need more phosphorous; potassium is good in general. This is a VERY simplified explanation, but a good beginning

So for veg, you'd want something like 5-3-3 fertilizer, while for flower you'd want 3-6-3. Miracle Gro is a shotgun approach, it hits hard across all categories. Here's where it's equally important to become a "plant whisperer" and identify when the plant is sad & sick. Drooping leaves means it needs water; yellow leaves often means it needs more nitrogen. Black spots I think is potassium issues, but there's a lot of guides on diagnosing.

One more thing: the classic beginner mistake is to see a "deficiency", and so they start pouring nutes in. Nutes can affect your soil chemistry, particularly ph, however, and cause "lock out" where the nutes is there, but the plant can't consume it because the chemistry is off.  A better response to deficiencies is to rinse the plant out with ph balanced water (distiller water even), and then go back to a tried and true formula for the stage of the plant.

If you're looking for a "which soil do I buy?" answer, it's unfortunately not that easy. If you have to make a buy right now with very minimal information, use those NPK scores I gave at your local flower mart; it will typically correspond to some kind of "big bloom" marketing.

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Re: my 1st grow [Re: ThriceKing]
    #722137 - 03/19/14 04:42 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #722476 - 03/21/14 02:57 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

tomato food would work ok but you might want to not use it full strength,  and it might leave you with very harsh buds though because of urea nitrogen or other stuff that probably wouldn't be in a bud fertilizer. The numbers on a tomato fertilizer would probably be pretty similar to like say FF fertilizers because they have relatively high nitrogen levels.

Try to find fox farm big bloom or tiger bloom it is organic and will help your plants get fat buds while being very simple and easy to use, it costs under $20 and you could order it online.  If you do end up using tomato or other fertilizer be prepared for the possibility of some harsh smoke.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: Doc]
    #722576 - 03/22/14 01:11 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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tomato food would work ok but you might want to not use it full strength,  and it might leave you with very harsh buds though because of urea nitrogen or other stuff that probably wouldn't be in a bud fertilizer. The numbers on a tomato fertilizer would probably be pretty similar to like say FF fertilizers because they have relatively high nitrogen levels.

Try to find fox farm big bloom or tiger bloom it is organic and will help your plants get fat buds while being very simple and easy to use, it costs under $20 and you could order it online.  If you do end up using tomato or other fertilizer be prepared for the possibility of some harsh smoke.




Agreed. Only thing I'd add is a good rinse for two weeks at the end will help some. Some.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: Doc]
    #722922 - 03/23/14 05:44 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Ty I will look for those nutes locally first.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #731919 - 05/17/14 05:22 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

update had to go out of town and left good friend in charge. She started drying them 2 weeks to soon so not very successful 1st grow but I will try again.

got a little bud but not much

learned a lot for next time.

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Re: my 1st grow [Re: little miss]
    #731921 - 05/17/14 05:38 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

What?? You let someone else slaughter those beautiful plants before they were ready?  RIP.


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: Inocuole]
    #733056 - 05/26/14 12:51 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

she thought they were ready because of the crystals but she was wrong. So I ended up with harsh couch lock high.


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    #733058 - 05/26/14 01:13 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Better than nothing still :shrug:


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    #733174 - 05/27/14 05:33 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

dam that sucks dude how much you yield? you know ?


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #733179 - 05/27/14 06:16 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

What a idiot chopping them before consulting you.

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Re: my 1st grow [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #738238 - 06/29/14 06:49 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

I got about 4oz out of it


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Re: my 1st grow [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #738239 - 06/29/14 06:50 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

she is mot allowed near my plants ever again


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