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OfflineRasJeph
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Question about mothers.
    #364629 - 02/15/10 11:25 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

So, once I start growing, I'd like to establish a mother plant that I can get clones from for a while.

So, in order to make a mother...I need to grow a plant normally through its veg stage, and just never switch the lights to 12/12, right?

Anything special I have to do with the nutes? Different than I would do with a normal plant in veg?

Do I have to keep feeding it, or, will it eventually be established enough to just grow on its own?

Since I'm using soil...(FF Ocean Forest, mixed with perilite) is there anything specific I need to worry about? People talk about "compaction" over time...and since a mother always stays in the same soil, will the be a problem?

How many weeks should I let the mother bush out after taking clones?

Also, how can I keep the plant low, but bushy? I don't want it to get 8 feet tall in my closet, but I do want a lot of branches.

Thanks!


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Re: Question about mothers. [Re: RasJeph]
    #364636 - 02/15/10 11:54 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

This should answer most....if not all of your questions.

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Re: Question about mothers. [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #364650 - 02/15/10 12:15 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Awesome link! :] Thanks!

So so so so so much information to absorb...I wish I had a mentor here with me, someone who knows what they are doing lol. I'll be damn sure to teach my kid, so he or she won't have to learn from ground zero!


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Re: Question about mothers. [Re: RasJeph]
    #423384 - 05/24/10 07:43 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Just remember that a mother that came from a cutting will give weaker buds. Because its a clone of a clone... LOL do u get what Im saying? Not sure if I made sense with my choice of words. A mother should come from a select seed(The biggest/strongest seedling)


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Re: Question about mothers. [Re: ThUmB pRiNt]
    #423385 - 05/24/10 07:43 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I know its a bump but i just thought u needed to know that:thaaannks:


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Re: Question about mothers. [Re: ThUmB pRiNt]
    #423386 - 05/24/10 07:49 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Just remember that a mother that came from a cutting will give weaker buds. Because its a clone of a clone




Uh, no, that's completely and utterly false.


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Re: Question about mothers. [Re: coda]
    #423388 - 05/24/10 07:52 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, you're way off with that. A clone will create a genetic duplicate once matured. In other words, the same plant. Cannabis doesn't have the same gene degradation issues as mushrooms.


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Re: Question about mothers. [Re: DieselB]
    #423397 - 05/24/10 08:02 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I'll let ya know this September :wink:


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Re: Question about mothers. [Re: DieselB]
    #423402 - 05/24/10 08:21 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I could be wrong but this is what a few very very experienced growers told me. Think about it though it kind of makes sense. They also said that no respectable seed banks would do that. He said that they get a bunch of seeds grow them, then pick the best ones with the traits they like. Then they flower a cutting from all the possible mothers to sex them. Then they eliminate all the inferior ones. Maybe someone should write an e-mail to DNA Genetics or some other peeps to ask how they do it and why? Maybe if u hint u are interested in making a purchase they'll actually answer.  :confused: I was just tryin to help....


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Re: Question about mothers. [Re: ThUmB pRiNt]
    #423404 - 05/24/10 08:30 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

It's bullshit, taking a clone from a mom and using it to produce another mom for cuttings will not impact bud production whatsoever.


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Re: Question about mothers. [Re: coda]
    #423405 - 05/24/10 08:34 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I heard it DOESN'T break down over time, because you're not actually cloning the cells, you're taking a cutting. "Cloning", technically shouldn't be the right term, right?

I believe I learned that here.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I know a lot less than you guys.


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Re: Question about mothers. [Re: RasJeph]
    #423611 - 05/25/10 04:06 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Well thats three against one. I guess I was wrong. :undecided:  I hope we get some other peeps to put in there 2 cents.


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Re: Question about mothers. [Re: coda]
    #423613 - 05/25/10 04:08 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Well thats three against one. I guess I was wrong. :undecided:  I hope we get some other peeps to put in there 2 cents


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Re: Question about mothers. [Re: ThUmB pRiNt]
    #423628 - 05/25/10 09:03 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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ThUmB pRiNt said:
Well thats three against one. I guess I was wrong. :undecided:  I hope we get some other peeps to put in there 2 cents




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Re: Question about mothers. [Re: ThUmB pRiNt]
    #423634 - 05/25/10 09:23 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

ThUmB pRiNt said:
I could be wrong but this is what a few very very experienced growers told me. Think about it though it kind of makes sense. They also said that no respectable seed banks would do that. He said that they get a bunch of seeds grow them, then pick the best ones with the traits they like. Then they flower a cutting from all the possible mothers to sex them. Then they eliminate all the inferior ones. Maybe someone should write an e-mail to DNA Genetics or some other peeps to ask how they do it and why? Maybe if u hint u are interested in making a purchase they'll actually answer.  :confused: I was just tryin to help....





They must not be very experienced at all. Maybe experienced at blowing smoke up ones ass.


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Re: Question about mothers. [Re: brifunforme]
    #434630 - 06/18/10 02:47 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for straighting that out for me guys


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