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Ben18 said:
I looked into those. They seem nice.
http://www.hidhut.com/catalog/the-led-ufo-p-1372.html
http://www.hydroponicsfarming.com/product-612.html
http://www.ggorganics.com/led-ufo-grow-light-450.html

My only deal is I don't believe that they cover very much space when it comes to light. It seems like it would be the bomb for just one plant but terrible for any more plants. Plus I think plants will stretch like 90% of the time with one of them.
On the other hand they are pretty cool looking, and do save some serious money in the pocket.

Im in for the 600w club(hps,mh), real talk, they produce.

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holey shit, these make me want to start growing weed. I dont even smoke the shit. well at least ill know how to grow it. when my living arrangements are a little more suited for growing i might just start a little indoor garden to grow veggies and herbs during the winter time. And of coarse it will be fully functional should i decide i want to grow some buds.

Sorry to be such a noob, but dont the plants have to grow to 4 feet in hight to flower? Should the light source be repositioned relative to the hight / growth cycle?

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rodfarva said:
Sorry to be such a noob, but dont the plants have to grow to 4 feet in hight to flower? Should the light source be repositioned relative to the hight / growth cycle?

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I don't think they have to grow to a certain height in order to flower. Some indica plants might never see that height. When you're growing indoors, you can decide when to change the light to induce the flowering stage, and some might do that after they've only been in vegetative growth for a week, although that probably isn't too common.

You'd want to move the lights as the plants grow depending on how much heat the light is producing, so they don't get too close and get burned. I don't think the light would be repositioned relative to the growth cycles, just as the plants grow, but the amount of time the light is on each day would be changed for the growth cycles. When they are in vegetative growth they will get 18 to 24 hours of light each day, and then they wait for you to change the light to only 12 hours each day to know when to enter into the flowering cycle.

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Sirius said:
I thought I'd post a link to a discussion full of bad reviews of the UFO for growing pot.

http://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/69635-led-ufo-light-not-commercial.html

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coda said:
hell, no need to get rid of the 400 if you have room for it.  Run it side by side with the 600 and you'll have an extra 400 watts shining down on the girls.

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did that what a waste of electricty the Lumen output of the 400w is a joke compared to the 600w

go 2 600w and really see a differnce. did the 400w thing hell id about give that ballast away.

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Is there a 250 club?

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yah, the little kids table is around the corner.....



juuuuuuust kidding!

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freepain said:
Well you can always have regular electric to back up your solar or other source of power. Just making it cheaper overall

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BlargIAmDead said:
If you're living far enough out to have a "stream to mill" you may as well just grow them in a backyard/clearing . I mean if a solar setup is going to run you 100,000 and take about 5 years to show a profit why not just buy 30 or so oak trees (large saplings to semi-mature adults), have them planted in a ring, grow them nice and dense for a few years and presto...clearing . But there's always the risk of fly overs etc. Meh. See what fits your situation better. Best of luck.

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Wont work in northern michigan. Its not suitable for a 100% outdoor grow. Besides 100,000 is rediculous. it would be about 20,000 For the array and instalation (myself.) That solar setup, including batteries, would power my home and enough for two 600w setups. Battery cost would be a yearly expense of 1000$ if the stream thing is feasable the mill matierials cost would almost be nominal. I can design and build it at cost and it would be a fun hobby for a while. 

I know it sounds like alot but from what ive observed 20000 + 10,000 for batteries over ten years = 30,000$
just in the 4 coldest months its an average of 400 a month to heat a 1800 sq ft house in that climate. thats 1600$ x 10years = 16,000$ just in the winter at todays rates.

If someone wants to factor in a high and low end rate inrease over 10 years for natural gas im guessing it would be an increase around 8,000$ over ten years (median-rough figures.) 

thats 24,000$ just counting winter months. I dont pay attention to the air conditioning in the summer to honestly tell you. Just trying to paint a general picture.

Im also betting that natural gas & natural gas generated electricity will skyrocket in the next ten years as it has been

just guessing here but adding 16,000 for the yearly use that brings us to 40000$ in energy costs from the grid, I can now justify dumping another 5000$ to update the system in 5 years time and/or replace failed pannels.

so in ten years i save 10,000$ on non growing- everyday use energy charges. Multiply all that by 3x if i grow 25 plants. 

sorry to derail the thread, but if you happen to have some coin this sounds like a hell of an investment, and there is no paper trail to the utility company.

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Magash said:
2-1000 watters bitches



Sorry I couldn't help myself. I'll ban myself for a day.

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hell yeah 1000 watts are whats up 

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maryanne3087 said:
Hello guys,

I'd like to join the club! I have 6 x 600w Quantum ballasts and 5 x Hortilux Eye bulbs HPS, and 1 x Solarmax bulb HPS.

Pictures to come soon!

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wow.

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just me said:
wow 4x8 = 6400 watt!

thats heavy!

isnt 100w/sqft, 3200 watts needed in a 4x8 space
my lights are hung only over the 4x8, but my room is 8x12
which i would need at least 9600watts right

a very acceptable watt:sq.ft. ratio is 50:1 right?

i will be getting a 6th light soon to even out light distribution, ventillation, and add light, bringing total to 3600 watts of hid hps lighting.

after this run, i think ive decided ill build two raised beds to hold a predetermined number of pots. each positioned appropriately, with rollers. and a walk  way down the middle while theyre in position, and can be rolled towards the center for outside edge plant maintenance. and potentially add 2 more lights. making 2 rows of 4 600Whps lamps.

i thought also a good rule of thumb was 100watts per plant? or is that not really followed anymore...or ever was

and next grow will definitely utilize the space between lights and walls. hopefully by adding more light and constructing different plant containers

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  Yeah it would be 3200 watts, don't know why I saw 4x8 and multiplied 8x8. Must have been the hash.
And yes the old rule of thumb is 50 watts per square foot.  I just prefer more.
Sounds like you have a solid plan, all that's left is the experience.

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just me said:
and dont make fun of me for askin this

how much could i expect from my 19 plants under 3000watts?

i will take it with a grain of salt, but im curious, as everyone who does this is. and being my first real indoor grow

id like a ballpark to satisfy my current curiosity

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