freepain said:

Well you can always have regular electric to back up your solar or other source of power. Just making it cheaper overall

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BlargIAmDead said:

If you're living far enough out to have a "stream to mill" you may as well just grow them in a backyard/clearing . I mean if a solar setup is going to run you 100,000 and take about 5 years to show a profit why not just buy 30 or so oak trees (large saplings to semi-mature adults), have them planted in a ring, grow them nice and dense for a few years and presto...clearing . But there's always the risk of fly overs etc. Meh. See what fits your situation better. Best of luck.

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Wont work in northern michigan. Its not suitable for a 100% outdoor grow. Besides 100,000 is rediculous. it would be about 20,000 For the array and instalation (myself.) That solar setup, including batteries, would power my home and enough for two 600w setups. Battery cost would be a yearly expense of 1000$ if the stream thing is feasable the mill matierials cost would almost be nominal. I can design and build it at cost and it would be a fun hobby for a while. 

I know it sounds like alot but from what ive observed 20000 + 10,000 for batteries over ten years = 30,000$
just in the 4 coldest months its an average of 400 a month to heat a 1800 sq ft house in that climate. thats 1600$ x 10years = 16,000$ just in the winter at todays rates.

If someone wants to factor in a high and low end rate inrease over 10 years for natural gas im guessing it would be an increase around 8,000$ over ten years (median-rough figures.) 

thats 24,000$ just counting winter months. I dont pay attention to the air conditioning in the summer to honestly tell you. Just trying to paint a general picture.

Im also betting that natural gas & natural gas generated electricity will skyrocket in the next ten years as it has been

just guessing here but adding 16,000 for the yearly use that brings us to 40000$ in energy costs from the grid, I can now justify dumping another 5000$ to update the system in 5 years time and/or replace failed pannels.

so in ten years i save 10,000$ on non growing- everyday use energy charges. Multiply all that by 3x if i grow 25 plants. 

sorry to derail the thread, but if you happen to have some coin this sounds like a hell of an investment, and there is no paper trail to the utility company.

Magash said:

2-1000 watters bitches



Sorry I couldn't help myself. I'll ban myself for a day.

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hell yeah 1000 watts are whats up 

maryanne3087 said:

Hello guys,

I'd like to join the club! I have 6 x 600w Quantum ballasts and 5 x Hortilux Eye bulbs HPS, and 1 x Solarmax bulb HPS.

Pictures to come soon!

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wow.