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Do these plants look healthy (no improvement)
    #648069 - 11/26/12 05:36 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

I have noticed that the leaves seem to be drooping some and the leaves feel really crisp. The reason I find these issues cause I have read on several other forums that drooping leaves and a weird feel to the leaves can be a sign of unhealthy plants. What do you guys think. Thanks for any input.



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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: redman2012]
    #648076 - 11/26/12 06:11 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

If they are, then I will want to hear the diagnosis....as they also look
pretty healthy to my ignorant eye.

Good luck,

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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: Javadog]
    #648078 - 11/26/12 06:21 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

What are your temps?


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: NameInUse]
    #648079 - 11/26/12 06:24 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

Also, I wouldn't use foil. Foil reflects maybe 60% of light whereas flat white will reflect 99%.


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: NameInUse]
    #648080 - 11/26/12 06:30 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

Well this is my buddy and mine first grow so of course we are a little over paranoid haha. The temp stays about a steady 80 degrees and thanks for that foil tip.


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: redman2012]
    #648087 - 11/26/12 07:03 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

I'm not saying anything is wrong, however they do look hot and maybe underwatered. Someone will stop by with more input.


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: NameInUse]
    #648099 - 11/26/12 08:39 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

they look nice and healthy, like they've received plenty of light so far.  keep watering those plants!


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: encryptor]
    #648129 - 11/26/12 11:18 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

A little more info would be super helpful.


1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
2. How old are your plants?
3. How tall are your plants?
4. What size containers are they planted in?
5. What is your soil mix?
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use?
7. What is the pH of your water?
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
11. How close are your lights to the plants?
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
14. What is the pH of the soil?
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
16. How much experience do you have growing?


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #648154 - 11/27/12 12:39 AM (4 years, 15 days ago)

1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
seeds
2. How old are your plants?
about a month
3. How tall are your plants?
8-9 inches
4. What size containers are they planted in?
3 gallon
5. What is your soil mix?
Fox Farm Ocean Blend? think hats the name threw the bag away
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use?
water as needed depending on dampness of soil and distilled water
7. What is the pH of your water?
haven't done any ph lvl checking to be honest
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
none
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
will occasionally mist with water
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
Using one 600 watt MH for vegetation will move to a 600 watt HPS
11. How close are your lights to the plants?
about 18 inches from plant
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
It is a closet about 7 ft tall by 3 by 3
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
temps stay at a steady 80 not sure on humidity
14. What is the pH of the soil?
no checking
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
nope
16. How much experience do you have growing?
first grow man going by this site and a couple others to get us by

thanks for any input btw


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: redman2012]
    #648157 - 11/27/12 12:52 AM (4 years, 15 days ago)

Quote:

11. How close are your lights to the plants?
about 18 inches from plant




This is very interesting to me, as I am also using a 600W HID lamp,
and am not certain how close I can take the lamp.

I am currently at about 2'

Good luck,

JD


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: redman2012]
    #648158 - 11/27/12 12:53 AM (4 years, 15 days ago)

Well I'd say maybe over watering.  I've found that in the beginning when growing from seed you can get some funkiness. 


How often are you actually watering, and how much each time.


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: Javadog]
    #648217 - 11/27/12 02:04 PM (4 years, 14 days ago)

Quote:

Javadog said:
Quote:

11. How close are your lights to the plants?
about 18 inches from plant




This is very interesting to me, as I am also using a 600W HID lamp,
and am not certain how close I can take the lamp.

I am currently at about 2'

Good luck,

JD



It's best to use the back of your hand to set this up.
If it's to hot to the back of your hand then it'll be to hot to the plants.


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: Stoneth]
    #648267 - 11/27/12 03:53 PM (4 years, 14 days ago)

We normally water them every 3 days and split a gallon of water between 5 plants


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: Stoneth]
    #648272 - 11/27/12 04:05 PM (4 years, 14 days ago)

Quote:

Stoneth said:
Quote:

Javadog said:
Quote:

11. How close are your lights to the plants?
about 18 inches from plant




This is very interesting to me, as I am also using a 600W HID lamp,
and am not certain how close I can take the lamp.

I am currently at about 2'

Good luck,

JD



It's best to use the back of your hand to set this up.
If it's to hot to the back of your hand then it'll be to hot to the plants.




Yes, it was suggested that I leave my hand in place for a minute
to best gauge the situation.

I did this, and it seemed ok, and the initial reaction of the babies
was positive.

I begin to think that I am starting to see some leaf curl now though.

The row best centered under the lights:

Sweet Tooth:


AK-47:


Sweet Tooth:


The back row:

Low Girl:


Sweet Tooth:


BioDiesel Mass:


Like I wrote, my lamp is a good two feet above these plants, but it
is a 600W HID MH lamp so maybe that is still too close....esp for babies.

Any pointers appreciated.

Take care,

JD


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: redman2012]
    #648286 - 11/27/12 05:11 PM (4 years, 14 days ago)

Quote:

redman2012 said:
We normally water them every 3 days and split a gallon of water between 5 plants



Just to give you an idea, I pour in water slowly (not flooding) until it starts flowing from the bottom. Once the pots are dry, I do it again.
When plants are underwatered the leaves will thicken up because the plant is trying to retain as much water as possible.


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: Javadog]
    #648287 - 11/27/12 05:13 PM (4 years, 14 days ago)

Please don't hijack threads like this Java, if you have questions or concerns about your plants, make a thread about it.


You're watering them WAY too little per container.  Gallon minimum each watering.  Then you wait until it's dry.  I believe we've found part of your problem.


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #648295 - 11/27/12 05:53 PM (4 years, 14 days ago)

No worries Hawk.  Sorry OP.

It started as a related issue, but went too far.

JD


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: Javadog]
    #648299 - 11/27/12 06:38 PM (4 years, 14 days ago)

No worries dude.  Just giving you a heads up.


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #648318 - 11/27/12 07:32 PM (4 years, 14 days ago)

Thank you guys very much. Did some very good watering just a little bit ago hoping to see some improvements in the next couple days.


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Re: Do these plants look healthy [Re: redman2012]
    #648326 - 11/27/12 08:44 PM (4 years, 14 days ago)

It's going to take longer than that.  Even though you're using distilled water, I would recommend checking the pH. 


And make sure that they get pretty dang dry in between.  Plants that big should seriously take a week or longer to need it again, as long as you gave it a thorough saturation.


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