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OfflineMiss Penguin
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The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence *COMPLETED*
    #32675 - 05/17/08 08:54 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

On Wednesday, May 14th, the stork visited the residence of Miss and Dr. Penguin, delivering 5 healthy femininized Big Buddha Cheese seedlings. 

We are eagerly preparing their crib which is a C13/22/Closet Maid with:
- 170 cfm centripetal inline fan
- homemade carbon scrubber (2" thick carbon, 10" long)
- 400W Galaxy digital ballast
- homemade cool tube
- recirculating mini deep water culture (DWC) system


Crib


Homemade cool tube and high pressure sodium bulb


The babies.

The Closet Maid cabinet comes with a cardboard backing, we replaced this with a piece of melanine.  The closet is very discrete and completely light tight, except for one dot of light on the ground located where the seal of the two doors come together (not too big of priority now but to be fixed later).  The light sealing was achieved using "Frost King X-treme Rubber Weatherseal" located at Home Depot, it comes in different sizes, we used the medium (3/8" wide, 1/4" thick).  This was applied along the front outside edges of the cabinet and along on the edge of the left door.  Also, we used caulk to light seal the back corners.

We also used a baffle to facilitate air flow and still keep it light tight.  It is a piece of melanine about 1/2" smaller on each side than the inside of the cabinet (leaving a 1/2" gap on all sides).  To this we adhered 8 6" pieces of 1/2" by 2" wood with an industrial adhesive. We spray pained this side (the underside) black with Krylon Fusion for Plastic black satin paint also from Home Depot. We also purchased a pack of vent filters and overlapped two over the 4" hole in the bottom of the cabinet. (sadly no pictures, forgot and now have a hydro system on top of it)

This is our second go at raising big beautiful green children together.  (Though Dr. Penguin worked more autonomously during the first go)

Dr. Penguin will update later with the details about the cool tube and DWC system.


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: Miss Penguin]
    #32725 - 05/17/08 09:23 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

:thumbup:Looking forward to seeing results!

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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: highasfuck]
    #32737 - 05/17/08 09:28 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Nice work! Hope things go well for you!


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: coda]
    #32883 - 05/17/08 11:54 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Looking forward to seeing results!

agreed!  and hell yeah, big buddha cheese is an awesome smoke.  :bigblunt:

welcome to the growery

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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: mel_lonta_tauda]
    #32978 - 05/18/08 02:24 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

nice setup, good luck and keep us posted


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Need Help with Huge Box of Nutirents [Re: Miss Penguin]
    #33151 - 05/18/08 03:00 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Craig's list gifted upon the Penguin Residence a huge box full of hydroponics nutrients.
Here they are...

GH:
- FloraBloom, FloraMirco, FloraGrow, FloraMagic

Botanicare:
- Hydrogaurd
- Cal-Mag Plus
- SensiCal Mg Mix (Bloom)

Advanced Nutrients:
- Grandma Enggy’s Golden Honey (F-1) and Extra Pure (H-2)
- 2 Bottles of B-52 Fertilizer Booster
- Barricade (Potassium Silicate)
- Bloom, Grow, Micro, Overdrive, Carbo Load, Jumpstart, Final Phase
- Organic Wet Betty (Plant Penetrator haha)
- Mother Earth Bloom and Grow
- Dr. Hornby’s Voodoo Juice, Tarantula, Big Bud and Piranha
- Bud Blood
- Sensizym

Random:
- Dyna-Gro Pure Neem Oil
- Vierra’s Worm Farm

What should we use? How are they used? Does anyone have any experience with these? Comments, Thoughts? (Dr. Penguin says "Charts would help.")


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Re: Need Help with Huge Box of Nutirents [Re: Miss Penguin]
    #33163 - 05/18/08 03:58 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

if i were you i'd stick with the GH flora series, i've seen some growers get excellent results using them. If you're growing hydro you will need the hydroguard and the calmag. I'd also add in the sweet as well to the mixture once you start seeing some nice bud formation. If you stick with the GH series you shouldn't need anything else that you've listed.

The dr hornsby line is my second choice, the other lines i don't know anything about.

Neem oil is used to prevent mold and for pest control, it is not a nutrient, do not feed this to your plants unless you're battling a mold problem.

Vierra's worm farm sounds like something made from worm castings, which is a good source of N. If it's a solid fert you won't need it unless you plan on growing in soil, if it's liquid you won't need it if you choose another line.

As far as feedings it's hard to say exactly how much you will use. Each plant reacts differently to feedings so the best thing to do is start off light. When the plants are really young and get their first feeding i'd start at 1/4 strength and see how they react. Do at least two feedings this way and see what happens, if they start clawing or twisting you'll know to check your solution and back off. If the growth is aggressive and green you know you're at least safe with that dose and can possibly look into increasing the strength. Gradually bring up the strength of the dose making sure to check the PH and PPM's of your solution (more important with hydro) to ensure they are at acceptable levels.

Generally any nutrient labeled "grow" is intended for the veg state. These nutes are generally high in N and light in P and K. Generally anything labeled "bloom" is for your flowering cycle. These nutes have higher concentrations of P and K and lower concentration of N.

Hope that helps somewhat.


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Re: Need Help with Huge Box of Nutirents [Re: coda]
    #33164 - 05/18/08 04:00 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Nice setup! I like the home-made cool tube and discreetness of the cabinet.

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Re: Need Help with Huge Box of Nutirents [Re: Annom]
    #33491 - 05/18/08 11:42 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeese:drooling:


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: Miss Penguin]
    #33632 - 05/19/08 02:29 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Great grow! Keep us posted on how it comes along.


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: Toiletduk]
    #33672 - 05/19/08 09:08 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

:awesome:

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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: Yrat]
    #33764 - 05/19/08 11:27 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Question Miss Penguin,

What's the clear material you used for your cool tube?


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: Uns4ne]
    #33787 - 05/19/08 12:24 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Yea i was wondering the same.


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: C3R3AL KiLLRx]
    #33813 - 05/19/08 12:49 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

probably a baking dish or some form of pyrex would be my guess.


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: coda]
    #33993 - 05/19/08 03:23 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Man that is looking pretty nice

Very discreet

I want to try something like that when I move out


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #34016 - 05/19/08 04:08 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I guess its about time I made my appearance here. I will be handling all the technical questions so field them up. Let me first say thank you all for stopping by.

Coda: Thanks for the suggestion. I ended up opting for the Advanced Nutrients three part program only because I have every one of the additives... (except scorpion.) I have used the GH floranova series in the past which worked great but I wanted to change it up and use all these neat additives, it makes me feel almost as mad-scientist-ish as pouring agar. It looks like I may run out of the Advanced grow-micro-bloom so I might switch to GH later, we shall see.

Uns4ne & C3R3AL KiLLRx: Coda nailed it. It is a pyrex "Bake-a-round" by corning class in the 80's. They are stupidly prolific on e-bay and there are a plethora of tutorials on the interweb on how to convert them. I'll post some picks of it later if I can.


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #34028 - 05/19/08 04:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

AN's lines are pretty solid, can't really go wrong with them. Shouldn't be much of a problem if you have to substitute the GH micro formula.


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: coda]
    #34798 - 05/20/08 11:25 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I do not know whether to post this here or in the Doctor's  Diagnosis file but it seems sadly that 2 of our seedlings have passed on.  We just put them in the net pots two days ago (one had died before then) and suddenly one simply fell over and shriveled up and I woke up this morning to find another leaning a bit.  This one I propped up with two toothpicks.  Does anyone have any experience with this SIDS like disease? :frown:


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #34830 - 05/20/08 12:21 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the info Dr. Penguin.


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: Uns4ne]
    #34832 - 05/20/08 12:30 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Does anyone have any experience with this SIDS like disease?




How did you start the seedlings and how did you transplant them? Could have been a transplant shock that killed them.


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: coda]
    #34839 - 05/20/08 12:38 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

How did you start the seedlings and how did you transplant them?




We started the seeds by putting them in a wet paper towel for about a day then we put them into the rock wool cubes (one started growing but did not shed its shell and died in this process). When they had their first set of leaves we put them into the hydro system with the nutrients Dr. Penguin talked about above.

As an update, Dr. Penguin (who is at work) thinks its an issue with the nutes and has advised me to drain the system and he will put in different nutes when he gets home.


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: Miss Penguin]
    #34854 - 05/20/08 01:53 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

first set of true leaves, or just the first set of one bladed leaves after a seedling sprouts? Generally, with seedlings, you don't need to give them much (if any) food for the first week or two of their lives. Once the seed leaves begin to die off, or, when the first set of true leaves comes in, should you start thinking about feeding them.

Another reason you may want to look into is damping off. It's pretty common in hydro grows and with those who use rockwool. Too damp of a media with poor airflow will cause this and it's like instant death to your plants.


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: coda]
    #34915 - 05/20/08 03:34 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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coda said:
first set of true leaves, or just the first set of one bladed leaves after a seedling sprouts? Generally, with seedlings, you don't need to give them much (if any) food for the first week or two of their lives. Once the seed leaves begin to die off, or, when the first set of true leaves comes in, should you start thinking about feeding them.

Another reason you may want to look into is damping off. It's pretty common in hydro grows and with those who use rockwool. Too damp of a media with poor airflow will cause this and it's like instant death to your plants.




yes yes and yes.

by too moist is my guesstimate.
its like tryin to grow in a swamp.

and no nutes yet. coda suggests after the seed leaves(the lil oval ones) die off, but that can still be b4 the first set of true leaves. id wait till after the first set of TRUE leaves are completely opened and big fans.

and you know not to give them beefed up nute amounts when theyre young right? gradually bump up nutes from hardly more than water, to full nute potential as the plant matures

GL , you have a gorgeous set up. make it work!!!


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: just me]
    #35028 - 05/20/08 06:44 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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just me said:
by too moist is my guesstimate.
its like tryin to grow in a swamp.




Yeah, either from the moisture in the medium, the air, or both, it would definitely seem to be a humidity problem. As long as enough care is taken to ensure the cubes are watered enough, the humidity in the air could be 10%, nothing over 55%, and you'd still be fine. They need frequent air exchange. Also, I would think that germinating them in paper towels and then putting them to rockwool or whatever is an unnecessary, possibly counter-productive step.


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: just me]
    #35052 - 05/20/08 06:52 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

It looks like damping off. I may have had the water level in the buckets a bit to high and the rockwool could have been saturated. I changed the water out and replaced it with half seedling strength floranova nutes. The second suffering plant was quickly propped up and the rez change seemed to have perked her up. We will keep you updated!


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #35104 - 05/20/08 07:23 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Good to hear you could make a save there, sorry for your other losses.


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: coda]
    #39831 - 05/26/08 03:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Day 13:

In the picture:
Tub (in middle) with dead babies :frown:
Fan (on now empty bucket) to promote air flow and strengthen stems
Air Pump (suspended from wall)
Thermometer (hanging down)
Baffle (not so much, they're on top of it)
13 day old baby cheeses (Aegis, Pepper and MJ):cool:


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: Miss Penguin]
    #52347 - 06/06/08 10:24 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

time 4 an update.:borfase:

how they doin'?


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: MFDoom666]
    #52438 - 06/06/08 12:42 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

So very true MFDoom!

Pictures!

Day 19:

We added another air pump and re-arranged the DWC system and buckets into a three bucket assembly.  Hopefully Dr. Penguin will post more about the DWC system if I nag him enough when he gets home.

Day 23:

We switched their light cycle to be off from noon until 4pm (the hottest parts of the day here in Antarctica).  In 4 days they grew quite a bit! 


Sorry for the blurriness.  I like this picture because it shows their relative heights (listed below).
Ageis (left) - 6" (15.25 cm)
MJ (center) - 7" (17.78 cm)
Pepper (right) - 9.25" (23.5 cm)

As you can see, Ageis (the one on the left) is dwarfed, she had stem problems, kept falling over, thought she was a goner but she is now going strong just tinier.


I felt dirty taking this picture and prodding her underparts but the internodal spacing on one of the plants (MJ, center) is insanely small (seen here with a dime).  She is a fat little lady!


More about the cab:

From this picture you can see the baffle directly underneath the buckets, white caulk on the corner that joins the bottom and side panel and also some duck tape on the floor from the ghetto-rigged filter (duck taped vent filters) I put in over the hole in the bottom to block dirt and dust.


This picture shows the light assembly.  We attached an 8' chain to the light and lowered it down to the babies, we have not had to raise it yet but they're getting close.


The top of the cabinet which holds the ballast, fan and nutrients along with some other random stuff, you can also see the homemade carbon scrubber on top (behind a lamp), identifiable by my (very durable) purple and black striped Halloween stockings with which it was made.


Now for the part where we need help.

All of the girls are showing these brown spots on their first and second sets of leaves.  Are the leaves just dying naturally or is this something more serious? I have a feeling it is the latter.


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: Miss Penguin]
    #52454 - 06/06/08 01:26 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Hmmm, to me that looks like nutrient solution got splashed on the leaves.  Did you use any neem oil at all?  If the oil gets left on the leaves that will burn the shit out of them too.  I'll flip through some diagnosis pictures and see if i can't find something to match that.

On a side note, how hot does the upper portion of your cabinet get (where you store the nutes)?  The only reason i ask is because you want to store your nutes in a relatively cool place.  If you cabinet gets hot, especially because heat rises, those bottles may mold over on your pretty quickly.  If it stays nice and cool up there though it's not a big deal.


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: coda]
    #52459 - 06/06/08 01:40 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

those brown spots are definitely indicative of some sort of problem.
 
there's something about the top leaves that seems off to me too.  but i know nothing about indoor nute solns :shrug:


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: Yrat]
    #52463 - 06/06/08 02:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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http://www.growery.org/forums/files/g08-23/277600000-day_19.jpg




the plant in the middle of this pic is showing signs of a micro nutrient problem.  Most likely a deficiency.  The yellowing of the newer growth is indicative of that.


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: coda]
    #52498 - 06/06/08 03:57 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

We're using GH floranova nutes, which I hear are pretty good. If this does indeed turn out to be a micro nutrient problem, could I just add a bit of GH Flora Micro to fix this up?

Our ph is rising pretty quickly on us, from ~5.4 to 6 in three days. I add 2 ml of ph down about every other day to account for this. Is this alot of ph down? Could I be causing a phosphorus burn of some sort?

Thanks everyone!


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #52523 - 06/06/08 04:37 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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We're using GH floranova nutes, which I hear are pretty good. If this does indeed turn out to be a micro nutrient problem, could I just add a bit of GH Flora Micro to fix this up?




first determine exactly what's causing the deficiency.  If it really just isn't getting enough micros then an application of micros formula will help.  If your micros are being locked out due to a PH problem or something you need to correct that first, then apply a micros formula.

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Our ph is rising pretty quickly on us, from ~5.4 to 6 in three days. I add 2 ml of ph down about every other day to account for this. Is this alot of ph down?




hmmmm, i dunno about a lot, but it leaves me wondering why your Ph is fluctuating so much.


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #52636 - 06/06/08 08:19 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

The Ph isn't fluctuating, just reverting to the Ph of the original water source (~7). I check my Ph religiously, I don't think that it is the cause of the current dilemma.

I have checked into a couple guides looking for pictures of micro nutrient deficiency and can't find a match for our current situation. Do you have any helpful resources as to finding the cause to this?


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Re: The Stork Visits the Penguin Residence [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #52688 - 06/06/08 09:34 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10287#Post10287

that may help you a bit, read the sections on Zn (zinc), Fe (iron), and Mg (magnesium).

the thing to realized when diagnosing problems is what areas of the plant it's affecting.  New growth is signs of an immobile nutrient problem, older growth is a sign of a mobile nutrient problem.


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Day 28: Bitches in Bondage [Re: Miss Penguin]
    #55951 - 06/11/08 08:32 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Day 28: Bitches in Bondage



The separate plants are hard to see now because Dr. Penguin topped two plants (center and right) and has been tying down some branches possibly in lieu or in addition to a Scrog, this has yet to be determined.  He tied down the central leader and the lateral branches on the tallest plant the one now in the middle (Pepper) and one lateral branch on the plant on the right (MJ) that was growing too quickly towards the light. 

I do not have the greenest of thumbs so I asked the good Doctor how he knew which branches to tie down and where he said "You take the high ones and make them low.  We are trying to create an even canopy."  He tied a tie around each bucket and put some eye hooks and ties along the sides of the cabinet as anchors.  Here are some pictures (I appologize for the fingers) :ooo:
     


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Re: Day 28: Bitches in Bondage [Re: Miss Penguin]
    #57142 - 06/13/08 09:05 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

i believe im the stork here thank you:albundy:


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    #57593 - 06/14/08 09:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

looking good

keep it up:thumbup:

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Day 43: [Re: sittingbull137]
    #66801 - 06/26/08 03:34 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Since we first started putting our girls in bondage we have done little more except more bondage (and 2 rez changes).  They've started growing very quickly and are less fat and stumpy than before.  Through a lot of training (though they probably could have used more) we have kept them at a manageable height within the cab and filled the entire space with their many branches and off shoots.  They have just started to show buds.  Here are some pictures....


            A Full Cab                                          Bud!


We have had some strange leaf patterns from these feminized seeds, here is one example.


We also have some interveinal bleaching on one particular offshoot of one of the plants that granted was close to the light.  Can an excess of light or closeness to the light cause this?

Thanks to all for the help and encouragement!


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Re: Day 43: [Re: Miss Penguin]
    #66806 - 06/26/08 04:07 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Looking good!

How close is that lamp to the tops?
When did you put the light on 12/12?

Very good that you did the bondage! The good Doctor is completely right with his even canopy; that is what we want :smile:

I think it would be easier for you to use something like this for your bondage:

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Re: Day 43: [Re: Annom]
    #66816 - 06/26/08 04:53 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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We have had some strange leaf patterns from these feminized seeds, here is one example.


We also have some interveinal bleaching on one particular offshoot of one of the plants that granted was close to the light.  Can an excess of light or closeness to the light cause this?




That's a pretty good example of why people shouldn't waste money on feminized seeds.  Still, it's interesting to look at :smile:

Yes, the light can bleach your leaves if they get too close.  If the problem is only affecting those leaves closest to the lamp and nothing else, that's a pretty good indicator it's the lamp.  If the problem is spreading to the whole plant you need to check your medium/nutes.

Otherwise the cabinet has filled out nicely, can't wait to see it a couple weeks down the road :smile:


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Re: Day 43: [Re: coda]
    #66843 - 06/26/08 06:00 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

We try to keep them within 2-3 inches from the cool tube though they can get within an inch without burning.  Only one plant shows any signs of bleaching, she must be less light tolerant.

We flipped them into flower 13 days ago, at day 30.

Any idea how long we should see stretching before bud growth commences?

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That's a pretty good example of why people shouldn't waste money on feminized seeds.  Still, it's interesting to look at :smile:




I wish we didn't have to waste our money on feminized seeds but we were unable to find a donor of female genetics and our timetable prohibited us from searching for a mother.

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Update: Day 52 [Re: Miss Penguin]
    #73006 - 07/05/08 07:49 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

At Day 52, 22 days after we flipped them to flower, our days are filled with cleaning up fallen leaves and looking at beautifully budding buds.  We have attached the light permanently to the top of the cabinet to allow them maximum space to grow but we are having a little crunch for space in these last 6 weeks.  We plan on harvesting at  day 90, our babies are growing up so fast :grin:.


Curious kitty.

This is what our days have been filled with... beautiful budlings.


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Re: Update: Day 52 [Re: Miss Penguin]
    #73049 - 07/05/08 08:56 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

you can always train the tops with some strings to pull the canopy down.  Looking good!  the size of your main stalk is awesome!


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Re: Update: Day 52 [Re: coda]
    #73338 - 07/06/08 12:37 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

looking good

big buddha cheese was my latest grow, the smoke was awesome.


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Re: Update: Day 52 [Re: captain.koons]
    #73702 - 07/06/08 04:41 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Nice work man, good luck finishing them up! :thumbup:

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Re: Update: Day 52 [Re: Miss Penguin]
    #113145 - 08/23/08 05:16 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I want an update!

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Re: Update: Day 52 [Re: Annom]
    #126459 - 09/29/08 09:01 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Here's the final update for this grow:

Here is a shot of the biggest branch, nice and sticky.



And here is everything hung up to dry.



By now everything is dry and cured, total weight, about 4 oz, should last us a while.


We are actually trying to start another grow in this cab but I must be seed retarded right now, I germed 5 and put them into soil which looks like it was too hot so they dropped dead. I germed another 5 which went into rapid rooters, I left for one day and when I came back the lid for my humidity dome had fallen off, they were bone dry and dead... So much for the last of my good seed stock... Whenever I get some live plants I'll start another journal. I'm going to wallow in self pity for a while. Stay safe all, thanks for watching!


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