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Offlinedrizzit
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ny question. religion and growing
    #714748 - 02/13/14 12:38 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I'm asatru and live in western ny, if they were to lessen the laws of cannabis, could I use my religious rights the same way people are using rastafarianism to not be seized by the government? I ask because I love my views and see rasta as afrocentric and completely unrelatable. Any feed back is vary appreciated, thank you for your time and I hope you've charmed your plow.


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Re: ny question. [Re: drizzit] * 1
    #714764 - 02/13/14 01:22 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I doubt it.

i think you'll get arrested like everyone else


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Re: ny question. [Re: PoloDown]
    #714768 - 02/13/14 01:24 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

This^

If you.could get away with it just because its part of your religion  I think almost everyone would be using that loophole.


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Re: ny question. [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #714794 - 02/13/14 03:13 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

You said afro, you'll get hung for that shit in Kentucky...joke would be on you.


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Re: ny question. [Re: mhbound] * 1
    #714802 - 02/13/14 03:33 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

What about the Native American Church? Can't they still smoke ganja and munch peyote buttons?


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Re: ny question. [Re: nannybooboo]
    #714821 - 02/13/14 04:35 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I see you said New York, I can't read sometimes.

They have different laws, I'm not going to pretend to know them because I don't but it's not just about their religion. Religion plays a part in it but there are other factors. And our country isn't racist. THAT IS RACIST AS FUCK, I WANT TO DO DRUGS!


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Re: ny question. [Re: drizzit]
    #714822 - 02/13/14 04:39 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I hope you've charmed your plow too buddy


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Re: ny question. [Re: nannybooboo]
    #714829 - 02/13/14 05:13 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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What about the Native American Church? Can't they still smoke ganja and munch peyote buttons?



I don't think Native Americans were every allowed to use cannabis legally. I do know they have "Ceremonies" that involve peyote that are legal so its a real grey area.


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Re: ny question. [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #714838 - 02/13/14 06:40 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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I hope you've charmed your plow too buddy



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Re: ny question. [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #714989 - 02/14/14 08:25 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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nannybooboo said:
What about the Native American Church? Can't they still smoke ganja and munch peyote buttons?



I don't think Native Americans were every allowed to use cannabis legally. I do know they have "Ceremonies" that involve peyote that are legal so its a real grey area.




Yeah, but they have to live somewhere that peyote is native...NY isn't gonna let a bunch of indians sit around frying on mescaline just because they're natives :lol:

That said, I've often wondered about the religious loophole myself. I'm sure if it were doable, it'd already be done. I don't think there is a MAINSTREAM religion that specifically mentions cannabis - rasta included. I might be wrong.

That said, just wait it out. The times are a changing...you've waited this long for legal herb, just give it a little longer. It's coming.


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Re: ny question. [Re: RasJeph]
    #715055 - 02/14/14 12:56 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Peyote is 100% legal in canada .

Woot woot


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Re: ny question. [Re: P-O]
    #715076 - 02/14/14 01:56 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I'm seeing a lot of documentary's from this year where growers are claiming to convert to rasta in the US an being seized less do to there religious rights, and I'm sure there bolth recognized because rastas don't have to shave there locks in prison maybe because of freedom of religion idk.. but they also have allowed asatru followers to wear Thors silver hammer http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mj%C3%B6lnir pendent while incarcerated, there's also been a Thors hammer symbol added to the military symbols and, the pentagram has been added for wiccan.


http://wildhunt.org/2013/05/thors-hammer-approved-for-veteran-headstones-and-markers.html

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81satr%C3%BA_in_the_United_States - asatru wiki page

http://m.state.gov/md5566.htm - rasta is not even recognized in the US :frown:.  But there's this http://www.ndsn.org/march96/9thcirc.html

So after the Google-few it seems asatru is recognized while rasta is not yet I see people claiming rasta and claiming to be seized less yet its not recognized in the US... And asatru only has symbols for vet's and there beliefs.  Maybe I'm missing somthing on freedom of religion.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_the_United_States

Iv gotta get to canada lol

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19560915


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Re: ny question. [Re: drizzit] * 1
    #715950 - 02/17/14 11:25 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

It will be legal soon enough, the government is working on it behind the scenes if you ask me.

Obviously they allowed hemp recently so they have plans for it. You know the term "it takes an act of congress", well it is going to take awhile but its coming. Definitely not worth going to Canada for if you ask me, not with PO living there.


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