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How do you feel about religion??
    #458958 - 08/12/10 07:24 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

The video below is 26 mins long but ridiculously interesting.
Many of you may have already seen it but Im gona post anyways.
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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #458974 - 08/12/10 08:10 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Religion is the root of all evil.  I told my family that last christmas.  They were utterly shocked.  :lol:  Zeitgeist is interesting but should be taken with a grain of salt.


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #458989 - 08/12/10 08:31 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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FurrowedBrow said:
Religion is the root of all evil.  I told my family that last christmas.  They were utterly shocked.  :lol:  Zeitgeist is interesting but should be taken with a grain of salt.




Haha. Yeah I kinda choose to keep my beliefs to myself unless im drunk
lol. And yes you are right about zeitgeist. However I think the religion
section is pretty spot on.


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #458991 - 08/12/10 08:34 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I generally think that anyone who is serious about a religion is at least partially crazy.  :shrug:  You'd have to be, right?


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #458993 - 08/12/10 08:37 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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I generally think that anyone who is serious about a religion is at least partially crazy.  :shrug:  You'd have to be, right?




Yeah I mean I dont see how else someone could so blindly believe
in such things. Its cool if you believe in god or a higher power
but to align urself with any type of religion is just crazyness like
you said.


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #459004 - 08/12/10 09:01 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I believe that souly putting 100% faith and devotion to one god would be partially insane in my eyes. I have faith in myself and my own abilities and attributes/experiences.

Eg. In the midst of a firefight during wartime.
I would solely rely on my own physical and mental strength/skills in order to prolong my survival and to do the job at hand effectively. I would not waste time praying to a omnipotent being in the hope that they would offer me some sort of miracle.

However this is a completely subjective view, some may find strength and guidance through their own beliefs and I totally respect that.


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #459006 - 08/12/10 09:05 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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I generally think that anyone who is serious about a religion is at least partially crazy.  :shrug:  You'd have to be, right?



They could be really genius though. Just lookin' at it from a different veiw. What if we are crazy for thinking that religion is? I mean yeah it doesnt make a lot of sense but still.

Who am I?
Where am I?
What am I?


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: Mr. Kite]
    #459010 - 08/12/10 09:10 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

There's no genius in that kind of crazy.  Just like 'there's no love in fear'.


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #459012 - 08/12/10 09:12 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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There's no genius in that kind of crazy.  Just like 'there's no love in fear'.



Let me talk to you about god.


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: Mr. Kite]
    #459017 - 08/12/10 09:15 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:  Go ahead....


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #459021 - 08/12/10 09:18 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

You responded in a way that I didnt think you would.

You win.


But according to someone I know

" god is dope
he kills them for looking into his box
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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: Mr. Kite]
    #459025 - 08/12/10 09:20 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

what do you believe in fb ?


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: Mr. Kite]
    #459028 - 08/12/10 09:23 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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You responded in a way that I didnt think you would.

You win.


But according to someone I know

" god is dope
he kills them for looking into his box
epikk"




What in the fuck?


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: derelict]
    #459034 - 08/12/10 09:30 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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what do you believe in fb ?




There was a thread posted two days ago called, "any of you believe in God?" I've posted it in that thread

https://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/457893#457893

and

https://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/457929#457929


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: FurrowedBrow] * 1
    #459080 - 08/12/10 11:41 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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FurrowedBrow said:
Religion is the root of all evil.  I told my family that last christmas.  They were utterly shocked.  :lol:  Zeitgeist is interesting but should be taken with a grain of salt.





Being that many non-religious ideologies have fueled their share of crimes against humanity, i would say the real issue here is human nature


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #459081 - 08/12/10 11:46 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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I generally think that anyone who is serious about a religion is at least partially crazy.  :shrug:  You'd have to be, right?





many of the more liberal sects of Christianity look at the bible as nothing more than a man produced document that presents an enlightened metaphor on how to live a moral existence


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: kyuzo]
    #459099 - 08/13/10 12:30 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

More people have been killed in the name of god than anything else


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: Kilroy]
    #459123 - 08/13/10 01:00 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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More people have been killed in the name of god than anything else




You know, that's something I often see stated, but never substantiated.  And being that atheism is a relatively new and rare phenomenon, I'm not sure it would state anything particularly nefarious about religion if it was.

Especially when considering the state of NK, the actions of the Khmer Rouge(sp), and the Holocaust

Also, it seems that most wars or actions that are justified via religion, are nothing more than age old competition over limited resources.

Darfur and the Israel/Palistine conflict(which started secular in nature and only became somewhat religiously oriented later on) are perfect examples of this


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: kyuzo] * 1
    #459140 - 08/13/10 01:14 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

The overall message in most religions (at least the originals)
are very positive. But Christianity and Islam are the two main religions
in which they have been manipulated by the teachers and the students
to put in a level of fear, control, and hatred into anything that
does not run parallel to its own beliefs. This has caused war and death.
Among many or terrible things. I would continue but im busy. i will chime in again later.


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Re: How do you feel about religion?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #459143 - 08/13/10 01:27 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I find the Buddhist beliefs and life quite similar to my own beliefs however the part about abstaining from bodily pleasures and intoxicants?!?!


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