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Offlineeos666
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DWC/aero direct to 12: veg or bloom nutes?
    #691864 - 11/05/13 06:25 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

i have 4 small clones in 2" netpots in a dwc/aero system. Ive started them right under 12/12 so my question is, should I still give them veg nutes for the first week(s) or go straight to bloom nutes ince they are under 12/12 from the start?


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Re: DWC/aero direct to 12: veg or bloom nutes? [Re: eos666]
    #691866 - 11/05/13 06:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Bloom nutes of course.

See this. Ah, I see now you're working with clones.


Edited by TomCollins (11/05/13 10:04 AM)


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Re: DWC/aero direct to 12: veg or bloom nutes? [Re: TomCollins]
    #692004 - 11/05/13 04:03 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I'd do veg for the first week then slowly transition.  In the future, I'd give me at least a week of root development before throwing em in 12/12


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Re: DWC/aero direct to 12: veg or bloom nutes? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #692025 - 11/05/13 04:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry, what is the point of giving them veg under 12/12 for a week? It seems like an unnecessary complication. :confused:


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Re: DWC/aero direct to 12: veg or bloom nutes? [Re: TomCollins]
    #692029 - 11/05/13 04:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Because they're not in full flower mode yet.  There's a transition period where they like having a little higher nitrogen.  Just like when you flower after after x amount of time in veg.


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Re: DWC/aero direct to 12: veg or bloom nutes? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #692031 - 11/05/13 05:04 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Personally, the day I cut back the lights is the day I switch to bloom ferts and I've heard Magash suggest this as well.

High amounts of nitrogen is known to cause issues during flowering I believe.


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Re: DWC/aero direct to 12: veg or bloom nutes? [Re: TomCollins]
    #692041 - 11/05/13 05:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

And a lot of growers transition during the stretch phase. 


Sure high amounts of nitrogen can cause problems.  But I didn't tell him to do it all the way through flowering.  Just the first week dude.


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Re: DWC/aero direct to 12: veg or bloom nutes? [Re: eos666]
    #692063 - 11/05/13 06:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I do kinda a 50/50 thing myself.

But the big question is what kind of nutes you running?


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Re: DWC/aero direct to 12: veg or bloom nutes? [Re: TomCollins]
    #692065 - 11/05/13 06:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

DonkeyDong69 said:
Personally, the day I cut back the lights is the day I switch to bloom ferts and I've heard Magash suggest this as well.

High amounts of nitrogen is known to cause issues during flowering I believe.



Ah yes he starts using bloom nutes, but not completely switching over tho.
Or at least not in the past.
http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/268294#268294

This is my favorite nute program to this day.


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Re: DWC/aero direct to 12: veg or bloom nutes? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #692199 - 11/06/13 05:20 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Sure high amounts of nitrogen can cause problems.  But I didn't tell him to do it all the way through flowering.  Just the first week dude.




That's fine. I figured, if the extra nit delay's flowering then why give his plants lot's of nit during the first week of flowering? :shrug: If he's not switching from veg nutes to bloom nutes then what purpose does a transition serve, and is it really a transition?

There are a handful of guides out on the internet that talk about Stretch minimization in cannabis, and many mention reducing nitrogen during the initial weeks of flowering to reduce the stretch. They do recommend using a transition ratio of bloom and veg nutes to maintain a medium amount of nitrogen. rollitup 420mag

So I really don't think it makes sense to give them veg from the start and then transition. You might as well start with a 50/50 mix like stoney said, and then transition from that as that would probably be safer. :shrug:

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Re: DWC/aero direct to 12: veg or bloom nutes? [Re: TomCollins] * 1
    #692263 - 11/06/13 03:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

A.  He doesn't need to worry about stretch.  They're clones.  And they aren't flowering yet.  They are still rooting and vegging in the first couple of weeks of flower.


B.  I've found that reducing the nitrogen during the first couple weeks, has ever really made a noticeable difference in how much my plants stretch.  Genetics plays a bigger role.  And I've experimented thoroughly over the last 9 years of growing.


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Re: DWC/aero direct to 12: veg or bloom nutes? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #692283 - 11/06/13 05:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

:getstoned: We're making good content here.


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Re: DWC/aero direct to 12: veg or bloom nutes? [Re: TomCollins]
    #692399 - 11/07/13 06:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

alright guys im going with a 50/50 mix of canna aqua vega/flores now, seems to be working fine so far.


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