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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #663035 - 03/21/13 11:31 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Haha ok :laugh: just making sure.
Thanks for being so patient guys I know I'm a total noob.
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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: nnn-yan]
    #663043 - 03/21/13 12:10 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I think there is a use for tray watering.  In fact, this is one of the hydroponic methods, called "wicking".  Simplified, the soil media itself can act as the wick.

http://www.hannainst.com/hydroponics/hydroponic-wick-system.html

The usefulness comes about when you have allowed the media to get too dry and "channel" water.  This leads to underwatering whereby the waterer thinks the vessel is fully watered because of visible runoff, but it isn't (and thus the "lift the pot" method of ascertaining complete watering).  Allowing your pot to sit in water will allow it to soak up the water gradually and fill in those missing dry spots. The caveat here is you don't want your plant to sit in its runoff due to high EC (salts).  There's a fellow on here or another forum that completely submerses his pots until they are saturated (naturally, he got accolades for this maverick method). 

I've done this for years with house plants.  And it works.

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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: zzzzzz]
    #663053 - 03/21/13 12:54 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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I think there is a use for tray watering.  In fact, this is one of the hydroponic methods, called "wicking".  Simplified, the soil media itself can act as the wick.

http://www.hannainst.com/hydroponics/hydroponic-wick-system.html

The usefulness comes about when you have allowed the media to get too dry and "channel" water.  This leads to underwatering whereby the waterer thinks the vessel is fully watered because of visible runoff, but it isn't (and thus the "lift the pot" method of ascertaining complete watering).  Allowing your pot to sit in water will allow it to soak up the water gradually and fill in those missing dry spots. The caveat here is you don't want your plant to sit in its runoff due to high EC (salts).  There's a fellow on here or another forum that completely submerses his pots until they are saturated (naturally, he got accolades for this maverick method). 

I've done this for years with house plants.  And it works.:girlishjoy:

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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #663058 - 03/21/13 01:01 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I am aware of passive wicking systems. And soaking your pots to water them is nothing new, or maverick.  But it's also very unnecessary.  Any intelligent grower will, A. not let their plants get that dry, and B. not judge by run off. 


The amount I water is dependent on size of the container.  A certain size of container should be getting a minimum amount of water per feeding to guarantee soil saturation.


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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #663067 - 03/21/13 01:20 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Hawk you are the shit you know your shit :fuckyeahdance:


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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #663093 - 03/21/13 04:21 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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I am aware of passive wicking systems. And soaking your pots to water them is nothing new, or maverick.




Certainly not maverick if I'm aware of it.  But what does that say of it's utility?  I'm not recommending it as a regular watering method because it can cause salt buildup, especially if you don't empty the tray of remaining water.  But it certainly can be a useful technique.

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But it's also very unnecessary.




More specifically, does that equate to "inferior"?  Like I said above, it can be useful, no?

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Any intelligent grower will, A. not let their plants get that dry, and B. not judge by run off.




Excuse me, but "not judge" what, exactly, by run off?  Whether or not the plant is sufficiently watered?  And, lets face it, many of the people posting here are newbies and mistakes like letting the medium get too dry are all too common, no?  Shit happens.  So, I think, it is beneficial to know of such remedies, right?  Just like correcting nutrient problems ....
 
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The amount I water is dependent on size of the container.




Well, duh!  :wink:

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A certain size of container should be getting a minimum amount of water per feeding to guarantee soil saturation.




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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: zzzzzz]
    #663095 - 03/21/13 04:30 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Whether it's watered sufficiently.  Just like they were saying in the link you posted. 



Unnecessary obviously does not equate to inferior.  It just means that it's not necessary.  In over 8 years of growing I have never had to use this method.  Can people use it?  Sure.  I just don't see the point,


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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #663097 - 03/21/13 04:36 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Just the point I made ... if your medium has over-dried, or is inferior in that regard (too clumpy).

Also, I've noticed that many people water the center of the bucket.  I've found I get more complete wetting if I water from the edges first and make sure that shrinkage of the soil from the container sides gets "swelled" and moistened before watering down the middle.  My buckets are also opaque so I can actually see the soil wetting down the sides.


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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: zzzzzz]
    #663103 - 03/21/13 04:45 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

How exactly do salts build up from regular watering?


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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: Maestro]
    #663104 - 03/21/13 04:58 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

They build up from feeding them fertilizer.


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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #663105 - 03/21/13 05:00 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

So you're saying what he is purposing, is filling up a tub with fert solution, and soaking plants in it?
Thought it was just water
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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: Maestro]
    #663106 - 03/21/13 05:03 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

:facepalm:


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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #663107 - 03/21/13 05:07 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Well you could go with either plain water or fert solution.  He was just saying that's how he waters his plants.  That doesn't imply that does or doesn't add ferts.  It's just his way of watering.  So if he wanted to add them he could with that method.


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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #663110 - 03/21/13 05:45 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

So you only use so much, and it all gets sucked in? O.0

Or do you have to flush the remaining solution down the toilet?


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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: Maestro]
    #663118 - 03/21/13 07:52 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah you would just dump out any excess.


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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #663138 - 03/21/13 10:05 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds like a waste of time and money then:um:


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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: Maestro]
    #663374 - 03/24/13 11:30 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

You have to assume that the run-off has poisonous by-products that
need to be flushed away to benefit the plant.


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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: Javadog]
    #663378 - 03/24/13 12:47 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Not with nutrient solution though lol
Use water to wash out salts?


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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: Maestro]
    #663386 - 03/24/13 02:58 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Not with nutrient solution though lol
Use water to wash out salts?



hey how do you flush and when?MaestroJust wondering how you do ?


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Re: Transplanting sprouts? first time with questions/ideas [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #663473 - 03/25/13 12:31 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I take em to the bathroom one by one,  then flush with 4-5 gal ( depending how bad my back hurts by then lol). I try to do it gradually, but  the last gal I just pour in untill it's about to overflow.

Also, I remove any yellow fan leafs at this point. Usually let them die off.


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