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Common organic fertilizers/notes
    #541318 - 03/29/11 05:44 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I tried to find pretty good notes on some commonly used organic fertilizers and this is what ive found on gardens cure (which took me forever to find) so i thought if people like me (jesus) had to dig pretty deep to find this it'll be easier for people like me (jesus) to find on this thread. :stalin: double rainbow all the way! ENJOY!

Notes on some commonly used organic ferts:

Blood Meal : 13 – 0 – 0
Blood meal has one of the highest concentrations of Nitrogen of any organic fertilizer, and is consequently a popular choice for the vegetative growth period. In its dry and slow-acting form, it can be mixed in with the soil at a rate of 1 to 2 tablespoons per gallon of soil mix. However, many growers prefer to use it as a soluble fertilizer as it acts very quickly without as much danger of burning – much like the action of a chemical fertilizer, but without as many risks.
To make blood meal tea, soak 1 tablespoon of blood meal in a gallon of water for 3 to 7 days, shaking up the mixture daily. An empty gallon milk jug (with lid!) works well for most people. Up to a point, the longer you wait, the higher concentration of N the tea will have. Shake well, then strain out the solids and water your plants with the tea.

The same method and rate of usage can be used to make Kelp or Guano tea, however it is not possible to make tea out of Bone Meal, as the P in bone meal is not water soluble.

Bone Meal : 1 – 11 – 0
Bone meal is high in Phosphorus, and is most suitable for the flowering period. However, as it is a slow-release fertilizer, it is best to add to the soil earlier in the grow period. (Perhaps the best course of action is to add it to the mix you perform your final transplant into.) One caution about bone meal, especially in Europe, is that many growers will not use it for fear of spreading Mad Cow Disease. Although this has not been proven, it is wise to bear this in mind.

Fish Emulsion : 5 – 1 – 1
Fish emulsion is a liquid solution made from decomposed fish and sometimes other ingredients. It is an exceedingly gentle fertilizer and is thought by many growers to be the best “first fert” to use on young plants. Its NPK ratio is also ideal for vegetative growth. It is usually mixed with water at a rate of 1 to 3 tablespoons per gallon.

Worm castings : 0.5 – 0.5- 0.3
Also known as worm compost or good ol’ worm sh*t, this may be the single best all-purpose fertilizer. Although the nutrient levels are relatively low, worm castings somehow have amazing effects on plant vigor, and anyone who has used them can testify to their effectiveness. They are very gentle on plants, making them ideal for seedlings, and also contain micronutrients. Worm castings can be used as part of the soil mix (no more than 20% total volume is suggested) or can be made into tea (1 part WC to 5 parts water) and applied as watering solution or as a foliar fertilizer.

Kelp meal: 1 – 0.5 – 2.5
Kelp meal provides over 60 trace elements, plus growth promoting hormones and enzymes. As such, it is often used to ensure the plant is properly supplied with micronutrients. Can be used as part of the soil mix (1-2 tablespoons/gallon) or brewed into tea at the same rate.


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Re: Common organic fertilizers/notes [Re: Jesus]
    #541327 - 03/29/11 05:56 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

P.S. i know there is an organics for beginners thread. but i feel like this helps me more have an understanding of what each fetilizer does and how to use them in a specific way


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Re: Common organic fertilizers/notes [Re: Jesus]
    #541330 - 03/29/11 06:02 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

http://www.onlinepot.org/grow/NPKCharts.htm heres a link to a long npk chart of many organic fetilizers, organic soils, and many organic recipes


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Re: Common organic fertilizers/notes [Re: Jesus]
    #541336 - 03/29/11 06:11 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

The thing is, none of those are fertilizers except for the fish emulsion. They're all used primarily as soil amendments, or used to make a "tea" which you then use to feed your plant. Since they're all powders you can't really just use them as a standard fertilizer.


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Re: Common organic fertilizers/notes [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #541349 - 03/29/11 06:55 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Harry_Ba11sach said:
The thing is, none of those are fertilizers except for the fish emulsion. They're all used primarily as soil amendments, or used to make a "tea" which you then use to feed your plant. Since they're all powders you can't really just use them as a standard fertilizer.



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Re: Common organic fertilizers/notes [Re: Jesus]
    #541351 - 03/29/11 07:00 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

im thinkin about using bone meal (steamed).. and grind it up into a fine powder (flowering). and blood meal, fish emulsion (both veg), black strap molasses(maybeeee throughout whole grow since since they almost all lack K), kelp, worm castings (foliar spray) and possibley guano. throught out my whole grow. see how thats works out. of coarse im not an expert like you. but a man can dream by experimenting!


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Re: Common organic fertilizers/notes [Re: Jesus]
    #541385 - 03/29/11 08:26 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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im thinkin about using bone meal (steamed).. and grind it up into a fine powder (flowering). and blood meal, fish emulsion (both veg), black strap molasses(maybeeee throughout whole grow since since they almost all lack K), kelp, worm castings (foliar spray) and possibley guano. throught out my whole grow. see how thats works out. of coarse im not an expert like you. but a man can dream by experimenting!



maybe wood ashes for K


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Re: Common organic fertilizers/notes [Re: Jesus]
    #541709 - 03/30/11 04:13 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

ive also heard great things about the BMO/ Blue Mountain Organics line on ebay you can buy for roughly $36 with shipping


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Re: Common organic fertilizers/notes [Re: Jesus]
    #545342 - 04/11/11 06:55 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Cannabis is great at pulling heavy metals out of the soil into your herb. Be careful, the OR Dept of Agriculture has listings of the contents of any fertilizer sold in OR. You can look up the heavy metal content of any fish based fertilizer that you might want to use.


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Re: Common organic fertilizers/notes [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #548527 - 04/20/11 07:00 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Harry_Ba11sach said:Since they're all powders you can't really just use them as a standard fertilizer.




They can all be top dressed.

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Re: Common organic fertilizers/notes [Re: sexondrugs]
    #548560 - 04/20/11 12:25 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

But that won't be nearly as effective as mixing them into the soil or making a tea.


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Re: Common organic fertilizers/notes [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #548569 - 04/20/11 01:05 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Harry_Ba11sach said:
But that won't be nearly as effective as mixing them into the soil or making a tea.




Organic fertilizers feed microbes and microbes feed the plants.  The area of the soil with the most intense microbial activity is the surface.  Thus, as long as you have an active living soil "scratching in" dry organic fertilizers works great.  IMO it is every bit as effective as bottled fertilizers or mixing the dry stuff up with water (I have done both).  I do use some liquid fish and AACT in my grows, but most of the soil feeding is done via top dressing.  Other than the fish, I don't use any bottled fertilizers. 

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Re: Common organic fertilizers/notes [Re: Jesus]
    #548581 - 04/20/11 01:40 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Jesus said:
maybe wood ashes for K




Kelp meal (readily available) and molasses are both good sources of K.

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Re: Common organic fertilizers/notes [Re: sexondrugs]
    #549584 - 04/23/11 01:39 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

good post jesus


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Re: Common organic fertilizers/notes [Re: dmtcorey]
    #551627 - 04/28/11 03:05 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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dmtcorey said:
good post jesus



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