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kickin-two-hundo
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NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question
#426906 - 06/01/10 02:22 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Okay i am about to purchase new nutrients, now i want to know what are the BEST nutrients i can buy, they are all from like 40 to 80 bucks, so im not so concerned about the price. I was set on floranova grow and bloom, but then i read some stuff about it that wasnt so great, which turned me off of it. So im looking at either the three part flora nova, the two part flora nova grow and bloom, or the advanced nutrient three part grow, bloom, micro, or the three part fox farms grow big, tiger bloom, and whatever the other one is. Thers also the floralicious line which i am wondering about.
Also i am going to get some other nutrients along with the main nutrients, heres what im looking at. Koolbloom, or advanced nutrients big bud, superthrive or budswell. Thanks for the input, i kno this may be a difficult question, i am looking for a very specific answer.
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#426909 - 06/01/10 02:30 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you want the best for a budget. The FloraNova series is
You can have a great grow start to finish w/ only the Veg and bloom. Once you get comfortable and have extra cash you can look into products like Sweet, Bushmaster, Snowstorm, etc...
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Crusty Ass Bastard
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#426912 - 06/01/10 02:36 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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There is no consensus "best" line of nutrients, but those are all good options.
Also: Canna and H&G.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#426918 - 06/01/10 02:49 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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cicken200 said: Okay i am about to purchase new nutrients, now i want to know what are the BEST nutrients i can buy, they are all from like 40 to 80 bucks, so im not so concerned about the price. I was set on floranova grow and bloom, but then i read some stuff about it that wasnt so great, which turned me off of it. So im looking at either the three part flora nova, the two part flora nova grow and bloom, or the advanced nutrient three part grow, bloom, micro, or the three part fox farms grow big, tiger bloom, and whatever the other one is. Thers also the floralicious line which i am wondering about.
Also i am going to get some other nutrients along with the main nutrients, heres what im looking at. Koolbloom, or advanced nutrients big bud, superthrive or budswell. Thanks for the input, i kno this may be a difficult question, i am looking for a very specific answer.
Ok you're pretty confused. First off, floralicious is not a "line" it's an additive meant to be used with any of the regular General Hydroponics base nutrients (Floranova Grow and Bloom, or the Floragrow, micro and bloom).
Second, there is no "floranova 3 part." There is a 3 part nutrient line made by GH, but they're just the flora series. Floranova is JUST Grow and Bloom, the Flora series is comprised of Floragrow, Floramicro, and Florabloom, and that is the standard 3 part you hear about.
Thirdly, if you go with the AN 3 part then you should get the Big Bud, if you go with either of the GH lines then you should get Koolbloom. Superthrive is not a nutrient, it's a vitamin supplement to reduce stress during transplant or osmotic deficiency (underwatering/overwatering).
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#426920 - 06/01/10 02:54 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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You took the time to type what I didn't want to.
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: Inverted]
#427070 - 06/01/10 08:35 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Flora is your best bet. With anythinf that yuo use there are going to be reports of bad stuff. This is how the world works. They are the best priced and work the best.
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: starrider]
#427418 - 06/02/10 09:02 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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So should i go with the flora three part, grow bloom and micro or the two part just floranova grow and bloom? price doesnt matter to me, i just want the best one and whether its two or three doesnt matter to me once again i just want the best results. And so if i get the flora, i should get koolbloom, should i get me some budswell too? bat shits gotta make the bud smell skunky
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#427426 - 06/02/10 09:39 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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A bud won't smell skunky unless the genetics are right. Some of the stinkiest weed I've ever grown smelled like oranges And no, for smell I like to go with an Bud Candy or just plain molasses.
As for which GH line you choose, that really depends on your medium. Are you doing perlite? coir? soil?
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#427463 - 06/02/10 10:40 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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i'm using General Organics and my plants love it, most of those bottles are about $15 each, bioBud is like $35
i used to use AN religiously with good results, but i felt like trying organic and so far i'm impressed
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#427536 - 06/02/10 12:38 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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cicken200 said: So should i go with the flora three part, grow bloom and micro or the two part just floranova grow and bloom? price doesnt matter to me, i just want the best one and whether its two or three doesnt matter to me once again i just want the best results. And so if i get the flora, i should get koolbloom, should i get me some budswell too? bat shits gotta make the bud smell skunky
I'd say go with floranova, being there are feed charts all over this forum to give you a head start.
I also say yes to the budswell as well, it makes a big difference in the end product.
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#481070 - 09/22/10 10:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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well said.
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: fort collins ak-47]
#481103 - 09/22/10 11:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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ha, thanks. Which part?
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#481141 - 09/23/10 02:02 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is what I don't understand when it comes to nutrients.. Does the brand matter, as long as you are giving your plants the correct nutrients in the proper concentration?
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Magash
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#481149 - 09/23/10 04:17 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok Kickin I'm gonna suggest something called Pure Blend Pro. I know for a fact it's killer cause I used it for years with great results. You can go crazy with it and it won't burn your plants.
I am gonna say this and I'm serious. I'm going from your posts and growing exp. You use a 3 part nutrient and your plants are as good as dead
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: reckless]
#481173 - 09/23/10 07:48 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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reckless said: This is what I don't understand when it comes to nutrients.. Does the brand matter, as long as you are giving your plants the correct nutrients in the proper concentration?
For the most part no, as long as you use them correctly.
Now what Magash just said hit the nail on the head, someone like Kickin' clearly can't handle 3 part nutrients, he needs to stick with a one-part, pH-balanced, easy to use nutrient just because it fits his ability levels better
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#481196 - 09/23/10 08:45 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Harry_Ba11sach said: A bud won't smell skunky unless the genetics are right. Some of the stinkiest weed I've ever grown smelled like oranges And no, for smell I like to go with an Bud Candy or just plain molasses.
I'd like to mention here that its the same experience with me haha. I purchased a citrus (orange) scented air freshener and it just really confused the fuck out of your nose when you smelled it. You knew it was covering something up, but you couldn't put your finger on it because the orange smells combined and just made a really strange smell.
And I never had a problem with smell, until recently when I started using molasses. I actually stopped using it, because as far as I could tell, it didn't add much more than an over powering knock out smell. I'm talking about stink right through those "smelly proof" bags.
Just my 2 cents. I'm not an expert by any means.
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#481200 - 09/23/10 09:25 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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does anyone have any experience using molasses with a hydro system, and if so, did it cause any issues with the plumbing?
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: kyuzo]
#481206 - 09/23/10 09:51 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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it depends what kind of hydro system. Aero- absolutely don't use it, DWC probably a bad idea because of shit growing in your water, E&F, probably alright
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#481257 - 09/23/10 12:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Keep it simple.
For you, as Magash said I could only recommend the Floranova or another single part nutrient like PureBlendPro or Ionic. I use Floranova, Ionic, and 3-part Flora using the Micro and Bloom components only and like them all. I like the Flora series the most, I like it's added precision and control over my plants.
There's definitely a learning curve and it's no joke when experienced growers tell people getting started that they should start with soil. DWC is very involved and not at all forgiving.
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: maryanne3087]
#481291 - 09/23/10 02:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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What made you decide to go with a single part grow formula over the 2 part?
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: maryanne3087]
#481300 - 09/23/10 02:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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maryanne3087 said: There's definitely a learning curve and it's no joke when experienced growers tell people getting started that they should start with soil. DWC is very involved and not at all forgiving.
Then why in the world would you recommend that I do DWC for the SoG I was talking about doing?
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: Tank333]
#481371 - 09/23/10 05:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay, I'll make sure to use a 3 part nutrient next time, in that case so i can prove u guys wrong.
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#481374 - 09/23/10 05:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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kickin-two-hundo said: Okay, I'll make sure to use a 3 part nutrient next time, in that case so i can prove u guys wrong.
Make sure you post pics cause you've done great so far.
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: Magash]
#481376 - 09/23/10 05:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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what are u even talking about, u obviously havn't seen my grow log? ur tellin me that uve never had 1 single plant get messed up? and its my first ever indoor grow, and first time ever trying hydro.
lets see ur very first grow
didn't realize you were so perfect, so inhuman.
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: Tank333]
#481382 - 09/23/10 06:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didn't recommend DWC for SOG. I recommended DWC for maximizing the yield from 12 plants.
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: Magash]
#481383 - 09/23/10 06:09 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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about two years or so ago a lot of people would recommend fox farms, did I miss something that was said that made them known to be not as good? I just never see it talked about anymore.
The big bloom, big bud, and tiger bloom are a three pack for like 55-60 bucks shipped.
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#481385 - 09/23/10 06:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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kickin-two-hundo said:
lets see ur very first grow
Ok, here's mine. About 3 weeks into flower under a 250W HPS
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#481406 - 09/23/10 07:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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kickin-two-hundo said: lets see ur very first grow
i used floranova. bagseed. this was also a top feed active/recirculating hydro system. I haven't tried any other so i can't tell you it's easier or more difficult than anything. Shit worked great for me though.
vegging:
just flipped to flowering:
dried:
second grow I also used floranova with some shitty seeds from someone on craigslist:
maybe i went a bit overboard there. w/e. you get the idea. Those were my first two grows. I knew very little about pot when i came here. I started with floranova because of its ease of use. Plus i think a lot of the experienced growers use it too. its good shit.
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kickin-two-hundo
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#481418 - 09/23/10 08:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
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kickin-two-hundo said:
lets see ur very first grow
Ok, here's mine. About 3 weeks into flower under a 250W HPS
lol exactly.
dam furrowed u've got some very nice photos! i'm gona have to try harder to get better shots i guess. Them some pretty nuggets too, so many colors
Hell ya man i love floranova!! its the shit! affordable and fucking greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#481445 - 09/23/10 09:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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what do you mean exactly? my plants are approximately 100% less dead than yours
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#481451 - 09/23/10 09:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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ahaha not quite senor. i'll pm u
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#481463 - 09/23/10 09:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#481479 - 09/23/10 10:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm tired of this flaming asswipe so say bye to Kickin.
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Re: NUTRIENT experts only please, very important nutrient question [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
#481480 - 09/23/10 10:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: Has more then run it's course.
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