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Obama sending Troops to border.
    #424013 - 05/26/10 11:08 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

:awebig:

Me soooo very very happy.

It is about time he at least take a step at closing the border more.

Personally I would have no problem shooting an illegal immigrant dead. :minigun:

Meeting my GF's illegal relatives should be interesting. :rofl:


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #424014 - 05/26/10 11:10 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Borders are only strengthening the government though,

Why can't we all just be earthlings:peace::heart::love:

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Harlz]
    #424015 - 05/26/10 11:14 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Borders are only strengthening the government though,

Why can't we all just be earthlings:peace::heart::love:




Because I want restrictions on who can be here and who can't. Having (practically) open borders just makes it easier for terrorists to get into the country. Besides, if they aren't legally they don't belong here.


I enjoy having a government personally.

I couldn't live my life close to as good as I do now without them.


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #424016 - 05/26/10 11:16 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #424018 - 05/26/10 11:19 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

NICE find man.

That's my new favorite game now.:rofl:


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #424019 - 05/26/10 11:20 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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http://www.youshock.com/shooting/border_patrol#




That is like my frave game.

+5


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Stoneth]
    #424020 - 05/26/10 11:20 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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NICE find man.

That's my new favorite game now.:rofl:




woah.....


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #424022 - 05/26/10 11:25 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I hit 32 of 88 first try, not to bad for a blind man.:lol:


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Stoneth]
    #424023 - 05/26/10 11:27 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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I hit 32 of 88 first try, not to bad for a blind man.:lol:




You might of got 1 less than me. We should use a .22 with bullets dipped in cyanide on the border. :rofl:


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #424024 - 05/26/10 11:30 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Glad ya'll like. :lol:

It's a bit old but fun as ever.  :minigun:

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #424038 - 05/26/10 11:52 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Too little too late. Our countries are already homogenized. I bet 15-20% of the national guardsmen and women he sent there are decedents of illegal immigrants.

Not to mention this empty gesture which will do NOTHING to help stop illegal immigration is gonna coast about 500 million dollars.

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424040 - 05/26/10 11:55 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Too little too late. Our countries are already homogenized. I bet 15-20% of the national guardsmen and women he sent there are decedents of illegal immigrants.

Not to mention this empty gesture which will do NOTHING to help stop illegal immigration is gonna coast about 500 million dollars.




I don't care if we have homogenized. I genuinely just enjoy the security that the idea of having safe borders brings me.


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424041 - 05/26/10 11:58 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Not to mention this empty gesture which will do NOTHING to help stop illegal immigration is gonna coast about 500 million dollars.




My sentiment exactly. I guess he figured it's better than trying to build a wall. :shrug:


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #424042 - 05/26/10 11:59 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Its a false sense of security perpetuated by the federal and state governments.

But that's my opinion.

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424043 - 05/26/10 12:01 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Its a false sense of security perpetuated by the federal and state governments.

But that's my opinion.




So you are saying, if we actually had records of 100% of the people that come into this country, that it would be a false sense of security?

Man you need to troll better. :rofl:


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: TomCollins]
    #424045 - 05/26/10 12:03 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Spency said:
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Not to mention this empty gesture which will do NOTHING to help stop illegal immigration is gonna coast about 500 million dollars.




My sentiment exactly. I guess he figured it's better than trying to build a wall. :shrug:


:lmafo:




Actually, I am in support of a wall. And a Moat!

I would literally volunteer like a weeks worth of work if I had somewhere to sleep and eat.


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #424047 - 05/26/10 12:08 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Its a false sense of security perpetuated by the federal and state governments.

But that's my opinion.




So you are saying, if we actually had records of 100% of the people that come into this country, that it would be a false sense of security?

Man you need to troll better. :rofl:




I think what he meant was, having troops patrolling the border only provides a false sense of security because in reality, this will not halt illegal immigration what so ever. Though, it wouldn't surprise me if the craggot was just saying that to try and troll.

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Actually, I am in support of a wall. And a Moat!

I would literally volunteer like a weeks worth of work if I had somewhere to sleep and eat.




Penn and Teller did an episode of Bullshit about bush building the wall. They're against it, but it's kind of funny so you might like it:



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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: TomCollins]
    #424050 - 05/26/10 12:10 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Well I know the troops wont fix it. But i guarantee they will start catching a few more illegals crossing.


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424055 - 05/26/10 12:14 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Its unrealistic to think that even with everyone 100% documented that someone will not decide some day to blow your ass up.

The only way to be safe is to start throwing people in jail for thought crimes.

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424061 - 05/26/10 12:22 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Its unrealistic to think that even with everyone 100% documented that someone will not decide some day to blow your ass up.

The only way to be safe is to start throwing people in jail for thought crimes.




Do you understand what security is?

Security is being safe from outside forces.

Safety is being safe from local AND outside forces.

I supposed I should of taken a lesson from debate and defined my terms prior.


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #424069 - 05/26/10 12:38 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

the first thing i thought of when i read that was oh no... what about all the weed coming over the border, i hope that doesnt get stopped/slowed too?  i need ma weeds!


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: ShroomieGirl]
    #424070 - 05/26/10 12:39 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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the first thing i thought of when i read that was oh no... what about all the weed coming over the border, i hope that doesnt get stopped/slowed too?  i need ma weeds!




A lot of weed is grown in the US. Cough cough kentucky.


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #424071 - 05/26/10 12:44 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Just an FYI, when the border guard find an illegal immigrant with marijuana in our country, know what happens?

They "confiscate" the weed, and give the illegal a free ride back to Mexico with a free meal to boot.

Why are illegal immigrants getting more rights than American citizens in the war on drugs?

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424072 - 05/26/10 12:45 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Just an FYI, when the border guard find an illegal immigrant with marijuana in our country, know what happens?

They "confiscate" the weed, and give the illegal a free ride back to Mexico with a free meal to boot.

Why are illegal immigrants getting more rights than American citizens in the war on drugs?




Because we can't apply our laws to people that are not citizens of our country.

The same reason they shouldn't be here.


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424073 - 05/26/10 12:52 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

There is zero justice in the land in of the free.

As long as Mexicans have incentive to cross the border, they will, simple as that. We have people building rafts and crossing the Atlantic from Cuba. As long as we hold most of the world's wealth in our country, illegal immigration will be a problem.

At what point does it cost our nation more to prevent illegal immigration than we gain from it?

Personally, I am against illegal immigration, but its a much bigger problem than just the border. In the community I live in, there are 1,100 illegal Mexicans documented to be living here, That is a shit ton of jobs that could be taken by US Citizens, instead most people born here have to choose to move to the city or live in poverty.

Illegal immigration has changed the dynamics of business in this country, not only fucking the lower and middle class by taking their jobs, but also by driving down the wages for labor.

This countries out of control inflation combined plummeting costs in labor, has put the average US citizen in a very shitty situation.

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424076 - 05/26/10 01:06 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

If they build rafts, then we just increase out border security allong the coasts.


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #424078 - 05/26/10 01:07 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

You're talking about war.

:ronpaul:

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424082 - 05/26/10 01:10 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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You're talking about war.

:ronpaul:




How is that war?

lol


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #424107 - 05/26/10 01:28 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Using a militarized force to prevent the movement of a people.

I'm pretty sure that's what Hitler, USSR, Israel, and Good ol' America would call a war.

Ever see Hotel Rwanda man?

Immigration is nothing new to this planet. Only within the past couple decades has it become a problem for the average American. We used to welcome the cheap labor with open arms in this country.

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424111 - 05/26/10 01:29 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

George Bush Sr. put a patch on the problem temporarily when we opened up the borders with NAFTA, he was just delaying the inevitable.

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424133 - 05/26/10 01:39 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Using a militarized force to prevent the movement of a people.

I'm pretty sure that's what Hitler, USSR, Israel, and Good ol' America would call a war.

Ever see Hotel Rwanda man?

Immigration is nothing new to this planet. Only within the past couple decades has it become a problem for the average American. We used to welcome the cheap labor with open arms in this country.




No lol, that would not be war.

Now you really do need to stop trolling. It is almost to funny.

Never will anyone think "oh they are using soldier to keep illegal immigrants out!" "This means war!"

I would kill them myself lol.


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #424140 - 05/26/10 01:45 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

You can't solve every problem with a gun.

But maybe you can solve your own.

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424144 - 05/26/10 01:52 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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You can't solve every problem with a gun.

But maybe you can solve your own.





:rofl2: 

Also I didn't know an opinion was trolling :confused:

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424145 - 05/26/10 01:55 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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You can't solve every problem with a gun.

But maybe you can solve your own.




I never said you can solve every problem with a gun.

But you sure as hell can keep people out with them.

I don't even get why you care that it is a militarized force?

Are you trying to tell me we should just let them come over here then? Because that is quite literally the only alternative. Because you can't force people to leave or stay out if you don't have anyone doing the forcing.


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Harlz]
    #424146 - 05/26/10 01:57 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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You can't solve every problem with a gun.

But maybe you can solve your own.





:rofl2: 

Also I didn't know an opinion was trolling :confused:




When it is that idiotic it is. lol


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #424147 - 05/26/10 01:59 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Thebooedocksaint said:
Quote:

Harlz said:
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You can't solve every problem with a gun.

But maybe you can solve your own.





:rofl2: 

Also I didn't know an opinion was trolling :confused:




When it is that idiotic it is. lol





Because its different from yours its idiotic hmm... Its that kinda close mindedness that founded the United states :shrug:

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Harlz]
    #424148 - 05/26/10 02:00 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah the native americans should have stopped those damn bean and toast eating brits from landing on plymouth rock with an arrow through all of their heads.

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Harlz]
    #424149 - 05/26/10 02:01 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

No because the alternative to my view is to let illegal immigration continue.

I just want it to end, because illegal immigration is bad.

If someone has a better way to do it then suggest it.


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424150 - 05/26/10 02:02 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Yeah the native americans should have stopped those damn bean and toast eating brits from landing on plymouth rock with an arrow through all of their heads.




.... Yea actually. They should have.


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #424151 - 05/26/10 02:02 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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No because the alternative to my view is to let illegal immigration continue.

I just want it to end, because illegal immigration is bad.

If someone has a better way to do it then suggest it.





Fuck borders, fuck governments,

Peace, harmony and love for the earth


Seems like the best solution Ive seen in this thread :shrug:

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424153 - 05/26/10 02:05 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Now who's the troll.

I'm native man



The only REAL solution is to open the border wide open, and end tariffs and taxes on imports and exports to Mexico. Either way we are going to end up supporting their economy.

So lets do the logical and realistic thing and just let whoever go wherever they want.

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Harlz]
    #424154 - 05/26/10 02:06 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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No because the alternative to my view is to let illegal immigration continue.

I just want it to end, because illegal immigration is bad.

If someone has a better way to do it then suggest it.





Fuck borders, fuck governments,

Peace, harmony and love for the earth


Seems like the best solution Ive seen in this thread :shrug:




No, that is really just stupid man.

Our lifetime will never see a time without governments. So continue your dream world that will never happen. I however will stay realistic.


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424155 - 05/26/10 02:07 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Now who's the troll.

I'm native man



The only REAL solution is to open the border wide open, and end tariffs and taxes on imports and exports to Mexico. Either way we are going to end up supporting their economy.

So lets do the logical and realistic thing and just let whoever go wherever they want.




Yea, I'm native too.

Your point?


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424157 - 05/26/10 02:08 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Our economy directly supports the Mexican economy. It is one. Its impossible to have a third-world country next door to the world's richest nation.

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #424161 - 05/26/10 02:11 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Thebooedocksaint said:
Quote:

Harlz said:
Quote:

Thebooedocksaint said:
No because the alternative to my view is to let illegal immigration continue.

I just want it to end, because illegal immigration is bad.

If someone has a better way to do it then suggest it.





Fuck borders, fuck governments,

Peace, harmony and love for the earth


Seems like the best solution Ive seen in this thread :shrug:




No, that is really just stupid man.

Our lifetime will never see a time without governments. So continue your dream world that will never happen. I however will stay realistic.




With an attitude like that Im sure it won't,

You seem scared of change. How do you know a no government world will not work, Have you experienced it?

Nope:thumbup:

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Harlz]
    #424257 - 05/26/10 04:10 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Harlz said:
Quote:

Thebooedocksaint said:
Quote:

Harlz said:
Quote:

Thebooedocksaint said:
No because the alternative to my view is to let illegal immigration continue.

I just want it to end, because illegal immigration is bad.

If someone has a better way to do it then suggest it.





Fuck borders, fuck governments,

Peace, harmony and love for the earth


Seems like the best solution Ive seen in this thread :shrug:




No, that is really just stupid man.

Our lifetime will never see a time without governments. So continue your dream world that will never happen. I however will stay realistic.




With an attitude like that Im sure it won't,

You seem scared of change. How do you know a no government world will not work, Have you experienced it?

Nope:thumbup:




But I am getting change. The change as in weak borders becoming strong.


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #424264 - 05/26/10 04:20 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Illegal immigrants need to be kicked out. Period.

We do not have the money as border states to provide public services such as schooling and welfare to people who are not even here legally. Let alone the jobs they occupy

There is a legal pathway to come to the United States, just like there is any other industrialized country

Stepping up troop levels on the border will certainly be effective. Hell, even when they increased the number of Border Patrol agents, the immigration levels decreased and number of arrests and seizures increased. That must mean it is working.

Having illegals in this country benefits nobody except the illegals themselves and business owners who exploit them for labor.

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: Picklez]
    #424266 - 05/26/10 04:27 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424522 - 05/27/10 07:35 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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DungenessDank said:
We have people building rafts and crossing the Atlantic from Cuba.



:facepalm:


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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: TomCollins]
    #424527 - 05/27/10 07:52 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

No body asked you. Why don't you go grow a deficient plant.

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Re: Obama sending Troops to border. [Re: DungenessDank]
    #424531 - 05/27/10 08:00 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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DungenessDank said:
No body asked you. Why don't you go grow a deficient plant.




I suppose that would be a little more intellectually stimulating.


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The admins are tired of this shitfest being made the joke of the weed community on the Internet.

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