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OfflineCrusty Ass Bastard
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Scrog Idea -> Scrog Box
    #379626 - 03/07/10 09:22 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)



These are the shelves I'm dealing with. I'll be using one of these as the "floor" with the plants sitting on top of it. Since they are 2.5" tall and vented I should be able to put them directly on the floor of my tent without the roots getting chilly. Plastic legs snap into the corners and above will sit this:



Everything inside the red lines will be cut out, leaving two 15.5" x 19.5" halves and a 1" wide crossbar. I'll do 1-2 plants per half so 2-4 total. The black lines are approximate and represent either trellis netting (which should fasten to the corner poles easily) or a metal grid, I haven't decided what would be best yet. I plan on having about 4 sets of extra legs, all different lengths, for when the net/grid needs to be raised and lowered depending on the strain/plant involved.

What do you guys think? What would you add/tweak?


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Re: Scrog Idea [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #379638 - 03/07/10 09:42 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

That pretty much sounds perfect.  I have thought up something like that before, but decided to make my own since I have the tools and stuff lying around but that looks good!  I would just maybe use some decent guaged coated wire to make the screen but that's just me.  2x2" holes are probably optimum in my experience.


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Re: Scrog Idea [Re: Inverted]
    #379647 - 03/07/10 09:55 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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That pretty much sounds perfect.  I have thought up something like that before, but decided to make my own since I have the tools and stuff lying around but that looks good!  I would just maybe use some decent guaged coated wire to make the screen but that's just me.  2x2" holes are probably optimum in my experience.




Thanks buddy! Since the dimensions are slightly rectangular I'll try to do 1.75" x 2.25" or whatever to get as close to 2" as possible.

Do you think I could just staple-gun the wire down to the side of the frame? I know drilling holes in the side of the frame (which is partially hollow) and weaving the wire across neatly would be best, but I like wearing the minimum amount of flare if you know what I mean.


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Re: Scrog Idea [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #379819 - 03/08/10 07:44 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I love Screen of Green. Sounds very thought out. On your root temperature concerns. If you put a thermometer in your grow room down at root level. This will give you the capacity to know what your root's temperatures are running at all times. Thus, being able to adjust them accordingly. I would go with trellis netting. Forget metal anything in your grow room. This will cause oxidation(rust) and can bleed off harmful stuff onto the plants flesh.. I would drill holes and use screws. Screws will fasten more securely and last longer.


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Re: Scrog Idea [Re: Buddy Guy]
    #381745 - 03/11/10 10:06 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

It looks to me like you could just cut every other row of slats in that shelf.  Look how well your overlay lines up.


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Re: Scrog Idea [Re: DudeTron]
    #381773 - 03/11/10 11:37 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

The thing is those slats are about 2.5" tall, so they would be blocking diagonal light and casting shadows. It wouldn't be a problem once everything was through the screen but it would slow down growth until then. If you guys look at the first picture again, I'm now actually thinking about leaving the two "vertical" cross bars and removing the middle one. That would leave me with 3 long strips of scrog space roughly 32" x 6.5" as opposed to two 15.5" x 19.5" sections.

I would lose a few inches of screen space this way, but it would be much more stable, which is crucial if I'm going to mount lights from another shelf above it. I'm going to mess with this today and see what happens.


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Re: Scrog Idea [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #383103 - 03/13/10 08:54 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Mazel tov!



As you can see I ditched the crossbars and went with a more traditional screen. Some random notes:

I made 1" deep cuts on both sides of the frame and wrapped some gorilla tape around, then one side of each screen in the hole. I did this because as the other sides were pulled down and zip tied the middle cuts created excellent spring-like tension.

You'll notice the screen is perfectly molded to the outside edges of the frame too, basically locking the screen in place. This was dumb luck.

The screens are from those $20 indoor greenhouses sold everywhere.

Those two strips of black at the top center are from where I cut off the crossbars, the insides were re-inforced with harder black plastic.

If anyone wants to try their luck with this let me know and I'll make a tek.


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Re: Scrog Idea [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #383950 - 03/15/10 12:07 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Post the tek on the main site, and then post a link to it here in this thread.

We could use some more user content on the main site! :thumbup:


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