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Carbon Filters
    #3630 - 04/20/08 11:59 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Could anyone show me an example of what to look for?




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    #4383 - 04/21/08 03:03 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: Laysthepipe]
    #4669 - 04/21/08 09:29 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i like vortex fans, with phat filters....  you get what cha pay for;)


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: CaptainKirk]
    #4702 - 04/21/08 09:42 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

One time I looked up carbon filter and I got pictures of the blue square ones for a/c units. I was thinking of rigging one of those up.


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: Laysthepipe]
    #5060 - 04/21/08 03:10 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

carbon scrubber? you can build your own but it's almost as expensive as buying one. nice thing is you can make it custom.


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: araucaria]
    #8277 - 04/22/08 11:59 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Like this?
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Also found a good post on how to make your own.
http://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/7074-easy-build-diy-carbon-filter.html
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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: Ben18]
    #8319 - 04/22/08 12:54 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

look for "carbon scrubber"


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: araucaria]
    #8349 - 04/22/08 01:27 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

What Ben18 posted is what you want. You also want a fan with a high CFM (Cubic Feet per Minute) something over 200. The Carbon filter and fan together will probably be like 500 bucks but they are well worth it an last about 18 months or 6 runs or so depending on how you have your room set up. You can make your own filter but I heard those aren't very effective.


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: Evan]
    #8387 - 04/22/08 01:55 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: night train]
    #8524 - 04/22/08 03:15 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Hey, thanks for those links. That 4" fan will clear my friend's space he wants to use in like one minute. :lol: It looks like a really nice one but does it make a lot of noise?

Also, it says those carbon filters last for a year under typical conditions. How long have they lasted you?


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: Sirius]
    #8545 - 04/22/08 03:41 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I'd say they generally last closer 16-18 months. The 4 inch filter/fan is recommended for up to a 8x8x8 space. The EcoPlus fan is nice, but the Vortex Inline Fans are quieter.

http://www.rvfgardensupply.com/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=736700


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: night train]
    #8560 - 04/22/08 04:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

this is a great scrubber for under $50.
http://www.hidhut.com/catalog/odorsok-12-190-cfm-air-filter-p-482.html?osCsid=2ad3997640bf51531c0ea0c7709f6323

ODORSOK

Odor problems are in the bag! This multi layered carbon cloth bag sets new standards for carbon filters in every way.
Full of innovation and versatility, some of the many benefits include:

* Unbelievably light - weighs <6lbs boxed.
* Stores at under 1/12th of its working size.
* Freight easily in the post without damage.
* Easy to assemble and disassemble.
* Average lower air loss with centrifugal fans.
* Work in humidity - Tumble dry when wet.
* Machine wash when dusty, (no detergent)
* Air flow capacity from 100 to 2400 cf/m.
* Sizes inc: 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14 & 16 inch .
* Fits any fan and comes with duct tape.
* Substantially cheaper than carbon canisters.


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: erb]
    #8814 - 04/22/08 07:24 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

You also want a fan with a high CFM (Cubic Feet per Second) something over 200.




CFM = Cubic feet/min. Not per second.

Also the CFM of your fan is related to the size of your grow room. Smaller rooms can use smaller fans. Also the wattage of your lamp is also important as well. Even if you have a small space (actually especially if you have a small space) you'll need to move more air then you would with a weaker lamp.

On the flipside it never hurts to have more power then you need, but, if you're low on cash things like the blower fan from stanley can be modded to be used in your system. So, if you can afford it, buying a nice fan will help you more in the long run. If i had the cash i would be looking with something with an 8 inch out/intake. A fan like that allows you some more room to upgrade in the future.

As for the carbon scrubbers, make em, buy em, it's not much of a difference. The commercial filters are hassle free, a little bit more expensive, but ready to go out of the box with little to no problems. DIY jobs are great in that you can go as big, or small, as you want and in the long run you'll spend less because all you need is more activated carbon to replace the used stuff. The more plants you have in your room, or, the more smell your plants put off the bigger you're going to want your filter to be. The size of your filter also effects the size of your fan, the bigger you go with the filter the bigger you need to go with your fan since it has to pull air through the filter now. A buddy of mine runs two 400 watt lamps in a 5x2 area with only 3 feet of the room being used for growing. He uses an 8 inch high power fan and runs a decently sized scrubber and can keep temps in the low 80's to high 70's with the lights on.


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: Ben18]
    #8879 - 04/22/08 07:46 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Ben18 said:
Like this?
http://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/7074-easy-build-diy-carbon-filter.html





a FOAF used that exact same guide to craft a carbon scrubber with successful results. good tek there.


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: beatyou]
    #9342 - 04/22/08 10:39 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Nice guide, I bookmarked it, would be interesting to try this out. :thumbup:


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: Evan]
    #11203 - 04/24/08 12:35 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

So how well do carbon scrubbers work?

If a person has eight 1k hps air cooled lights, could all of this air be cleaned by pushing it through a carbon filter? I think a fan would have to run at least a couple thousand CFM to cool such a room. This seems like too much air for one carbon filter to handle...though I have no experience with such a setup.


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: TODAY]
    #11221 - 04/24/08 12:50 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

if you are running 8000 watts you could probably get away with running two very large carbon filters. One to scrub the room and another on your out take air.


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: Evan]
    #11871 - 04/24/08 10:26 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Evan said:
if you are running 8000 watts you could probably get away with running two very large carbon filters. One to scrub the room and another on your out take air.




I understand the carbon filter on the outtake, but how does the "one to scrub the room" fit in?

I was thinking about splitting a room into halves, with 4 air cooled lights each, and running one fan through each set of 4 with a carbon filter at the exhaust end. Either that or just go ahead and use one big fan to cool the entire 8 lights and only one carbon scrubber at the exhaust.


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: TODAY]
    #11892 - 04/24/08 10:47 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

If you just have one on the outtake its not really removing the smell inside your room, which usually leaks out of somewhere like airconditioner or attic smells, so you can put one in your room and it will 'scrub the air' so to say, and gives it this unique carbon filter smell. I really like the smell actually. So that way your outtake air doesn't smell nor does your room. 8000 watts should get pretty smelly without a carbon filter.

As for your cooled lights another option which I've done that I like is to buy a booster fan and have your lights all connected which just makes things easier if you don't want to have two outtakes for your lights.


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: Evan]
    #13552 - 04/26/08 03:21 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

The plan I'm considering calls for the construction of a plywood box in which the growing activity is contained. All the seams where the wood comes together will be sealed. I don't think smells would leak...unless they permeate structural plywood...what do you think?


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: TODAY]
    #14129 - 04/27/08 01:46 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

What are the intake and outtake with this box?


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: Evan]
    #14384 - 04/27/08 10:10 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

The intake is a simple hole in the box and the outtake is where the fan blows the hot, carbon filter treated air, out of the box.


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Re: Carbon Filters [Re: TODAY]
    #14681 - 04/28/08 04:10 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

So are you just doing 1 or 2 plants then? Also, what kind of light are you using and how many watts? What are the dimensions of this box?

What you have described sounds fine the only thing I would worry about would be heat inside the box, you will probably need to put an AC near the intake hole especially in the summer.


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