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I love HPS
    #329930 - 12/11/09 06:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Just thought I'd share that with you guys!

I can't believe how bright the fucking light is, no wonder the light can penetrate the canopy and still be intense on lower growth!

I'm in love :yesnod:


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Re: I love HPS [Re: Inverted]
    #329931 - 12/11/09 06:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Wonder how long it takes for them to make you blind. I get pretty close to mine sometimes.

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Re: I love HPS [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
    #329934 - 12/11/09 06:20 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Nothing can really prepare for how bright an HPS can get.  You figure that out when you fire your lamp for the first time.  The first night I blazed my first 430 watt HPS I thought I had lit a small sun in my room.


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Re: I love HPS [Re: Inverted]
    #329966 - 12/11/09 07:18 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

^YEP!

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Just thought I'd share that with you guys!

I can't believe how bright the fucking light is, no wonder the light can penetrate the canopy and still be intense on lower growth!

I'm in love :yesnod:





Hell ya!  That's exactly why we use the HIDs over other light sources.  Lumen penetration.


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Re: I love HPS [Re: Inverted]
    #330017 - 12/11/09 08:15 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

bright , yes

Got to love it


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Re: I love HPS [Re: KaptKid]
    #330029 - 12/11/09 08:28 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Hopefully this will increase my yields.  I have yet to achieve the huge colas, except outdoors.  Now I have the strains and the lighting.  Good things in my future.  I est. I have 45 days left on the Chrystal, and 55-60 for the Haze, but it's anyone's guess at this point!

I know i'm going to want to step up to a 250, and then when I get that i'll be like shit, I NEED MOAR!  Then I'll probably jump right to the 600.

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Re: I love HPS [Re: Inverted]
    #330037 - 12/11/09 08:37 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Jump straight to 600, I wish I woulda.

I held off till I could get a 400 but she doesn't put out like I'd like.

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Re: I love HPS [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
    #330043 - 12/11/09 08:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

here man, take a head start on your way to the 600w club.  I just found this auction.  I bought a 400watt galaxy ballast on ebay this past summer.  it came with a usable MH and HPS bulb, which i did use the entire last grow.  i got it for just a bit over 100$.  I am interested to see what this one will sell at.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Galaxy-electronic-ballast-600w-slightly-used-grt-shape_W0QQitemZ200416282192QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2ea9bdc650


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Re: I love HPS [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #330081 - 12/11/09 09:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

ive got a 150, but i love the HPS so much that i was able to start out way more plants than i had initially intended. i ended up turning as one clone grow into a full out GROW. i cant wait to get my 400 watt light set up!!!

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Re: I love HPS [Re: Pilze]
    #330091 - 12/11/09 09:56 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Just wait until your hitting thousands and thousands of watts man.  It's so much fun.


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Re: I love HPS [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
    #330125 - 12/11/09 11:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well I'm more of an outdoor connoisseur, and have been for nearly 10 years.  I get the wattage I desire in the strong summer sun, but thanks for the tip!  I am only doing Indoors now so that I can make it through the winter and spring until summer comes along!  I'll still do it in the summer, but it definitely won't be my main focus.  What i've noticed is indoor has a faster growth rate, due to the full intensity during lights on, where as outdoors, the plant only gets full strength light during the hottest 2-3 hours of the day.  The light gets brighter and brighter then darker and darker, but the HPS is full power all damn day!  The other thing is stem thickness and much lower Calyx to Leaf ratio.  That's why i'm anxious to see how this crystal performs inside, cuz grown outside it was very dense and not very leafy!

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Jump straight to 600, I wish I woulda.

I held off till I could get a 400 but she doesn't put out like I'd like.




Some people don't have jobs or funds man... I've grown this entire crop with about 10 dollars... I'm a ninja like that. :blueninja:

I just simply cannot afford to pay for anything for this grow.  I have everything I need to continue it, but I cannot upgrade lighting or ventilation at this point until I get a job and license back!

The HPS was a gift from my older brother to me, so he's cool as fuck.  :yesnod:

   


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Re: I love HPS [Re: Inverted]
    #330138 - 12/12/09 12:04 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

thats the same light i have. its capable of more than i originally thought. things are taking off quite nicely with this it. so nicely, that i feel the need to upgrade to a 400 watt HPS.


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Re: I love HPS [Re: Pilze]
    #330166 - 12/12/09 01:21 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

So glad I just picked up 2 400w hps sun system lights, Cant wait to see what a 400w can do!

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Re: I love HPS [Re: Lucid]
    #330167 - 12/12/09 01:26 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Did you purchase bulbs yet?  I know you bought a reflector.

You gotta get that shit set up son!

Do it NOW! 

Pics or it didn't happen.


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Re: I love HPS [Re: Inverted]
    #330268 - 12/12/09 11:47 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Did you purchase bulbs yet?  I know you bought a reflector.

You gotta get that shit set up son!

Do it NOW! 

Pics or it didn't happen.




i gotta get some more money before i can set everything up!!!

i need a bulb, ballast, lamp socket, 4" fan, and 4" ducting to flow the air out of the reflector.

once i have the lighting completely set up. im going to pick up an inline fan, carbon filter, and 6" ducting, and my grow will be fully operational :awesome:

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Re: I love HPS [Re: Pilze]
    #330271 - 12/12/09 12:11 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Thats the exact same 150w hps i have.

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Re: I love HPS [Re: ASEgrower]
    #330275 - 12/12/09 12:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

man i wish i had a brother.  Super cool gift!


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Re: I love HPS [Re: ASEgrower]
    #330276 - 12/12/09 12:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Thats the exact same 150w hps i have.




pretty badass light man. i just wish it was quiet. no worries though, im setting up a 400 watt system soon, and ill probably use this 150 as another light to bump up the watts and lumens and get some dank and dense ass buds.

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Re: I love HPS [Re: ASEgrower]
    #330277 - 12/12/09 12:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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The other thing is stem thickness and much lower Calyx to Leaf ratio




I think you mean a higher calyx to leaf ratio, or, a lower leaf to calyx ratio :wink:


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Re: I love HPS [Re: coda]
    #330279 - 12/12/09 12:22 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i think he was saying that you get a lower caylx to leaf ratio outdoors compared to the same plant under an hps indoors.  i've never seen any studies on this but the logic he used above makes good sense, certainly.


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Re: I love HPS [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #330284 - 12/12/09 12:31 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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i think he was saying that you get a lower caylx to leaf ratio outdoors compared to the same plant under an hps indoors.  i've never seen any studies on this but the logic he used above makes good sense, certainly.




QFT, that is exactly what i'm saying.


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Re: I love HPS [Re: Inverted]
    #330285 - 12/12/09 12:34 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Ah, i see, misread that.


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Re: I love HPS [Re: Pilze]
    #330321 - 12/12/09 01:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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thats the same light i have. its capable of more than i originally thought. things are taking off quite nicely with this it. so nicely, that i feel the need to upgrade to a 400 watt HPS.




I also have this light, just haven't used it lately. I flowered a single plant and got a couple zips, can't complain about that considering its a 150. And Inverted I will second the "proceed stright to 600w" comment.


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Re: I love HPS [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #330415 - 12/12/09 05:12 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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And Inverted I will second the "proceed stright to 600w" comment.




Thirded, if you had the cash I'd suggest a 1K light, but that can be a serious investment to keep it cool.  If you already have a vented hood/cool tube a 600 watt setup with bulb probably wont run more then 220-240.


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Re: I love HPS [Re: Inverted]
    #330444 - 12/12/09 06:31 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Some people don't have jobs or funds man... I've grown this entire crop with about 10 dollars... I'm a ninja like that. :blueninja:

I just simply cannot afford to pay for anything for this grow.  I have everything I need to continue it, but I cannot upgrade lighting or ventilation at this point until I get a job and license back!

The HPS was a gift from my older brother to me, so he's cool as fuck.  :yesnod:





Like I said.  I totally would skip the 400, but I can also get one for free :smile:

I know the importance of maximum light, believe me, but I just don't see me using anything other than what I have for a while.  I am very good at using what is provided, for example this grow has gone AMAZING for not having any money and using MG, and Schultz fertilizers.

Give me a year and we'll see where i'm at.  It's anyones guess at this point where this will take me (Col. or Cali for sure)


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Re: I love HPS [Re: Inverted]
    #330474 - 12/12/09 07:58 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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but I can also get one for free




Free beats all.  Can't argue with that my man, grab the free setup and save some scrilla for the 600/1K ballast.  By that point you'll be so pimping and hooked on using the HPS lights you'll dedicate a bedroom to your grow and run everything ya got :wink:

Ok, maybe not, but trust me you'll be jonesin' for more wattage once you see the results from the 400 :smile:  Can't wait to see what ya do with it :smile:


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Re: I love HPS [Re: coda]
    #330552 - 12/12/09 11:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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but I can also get one for free




Free beats all.  Can't argue with that my man, grab the free setup and save some scrilla for the 600/1K ballast.  By that point you'll be so pimping and hooked on using the HPS lights you'll dedicate a bedroom to your grow and run everything ya got :wink:

Ok, maybe not, but trust me you'll be jonesin' for more wattage once you see the results from the 400 :smile:  Can't wait to see what ya do with it :smile:




:lol: You know me better than you think!  I am already expanding more and more than I planned to... :nonono:  But this is a good thing, and believe me, i'd turn my entire bedroom into a grow if I didn't need a place to sleep at night lol!

I can't wait to see either!  I think i'll be able to apply my skills much more to an indoor grow than outdoors.  Mother nature does a damn good job of taking care of plants on her own, although i'm too much of a mother goose and like to check on them every day anyways.


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    #330590 - 12/13/09 01:33 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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i'd turn my entire bedroom into a grow if I didn't need a place to sleep at night l




I can't wait until I own my own place.  I want a house with a basement so bad so I can construct the grow room of my dreams.  I'm so tired of small spaces.


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Re: I love HPS [Re: coda]
    #330654 - 12/13/09 10:10 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i right there with ya on that coda.  I've got it all planned out in my head, so i'll have to find a house that works around the design i have.  Just mainly need water hook ups in the basement.


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Re: I love HPS [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #330676 - 12/13/09 12:01 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I :heart: HPS! Great this time of year too. My 400W keeps my room warm too if I crack the wardrobe door open.


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Re: I love HPS [Re: Buddy]
    #330924 - 12/13/09 08:29 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

It truly is the best innovation in the grow room since the beginning of indoor cultivation IMO.  I can't say that it has drastically improved my grow yet, because it's only been in use for 2 days, and it's only a 150w; but still just the ease of use compared to CFL's has already made it a worthwhile purchase.  It's nice having only 1 cord plugged in, instead of 6 nig-rigged cords and sockets that makes everything look unprofessional.

CFL's will always have a place with me though, as I have been able to veg plants quite amazingly with them, although if you are flowering with them I really don't think it's worth it.

Yes it can be done, and decent results can be achieved.  Just look at Harry's CFL Ladies!  But it's not worth it to have all these haphazardly placed lights all over the place, when you could just have 1 bulb take care of the entire process.  Much more professional in my book.

You just cannot grow large plants with them.  It just is not worth the hassle of making sure every part of the plant has a light within 2 inches of it, and constantly adjusting and if you miss one day they get burnt.

I'm done with that shit, but I WILL still throw 80-100w of warm in w/ my HPS because some of my plants are too large to get the type of penetration I desire from the 150 alone.  If I had a 250 I'd just use that solo, but that's not the case.  I also love how cool my box is.  I thought it would be a problem at first but it's just as easy to keep at room temp as my 200w of CFL.  The heat stress that was plaguing my plants is nearly gone already since making the switch.

I sound like a damn salesmen now!  :lol:  But I just want more CFL enthusiasts to understand these things, because I was one of those guys thinking "why waste money on HID when CFL is just as good".

I truly believed that for a long time and now only 2 days into HID lighting I feel like I was wasting my time in the past!

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Re: I love HPS [Re: Inverted]
    #330957 - 12/13/09 08:44 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

yea man. that 150 that we have will do some nice stuff. im only using a 150 to get things going. like ive said all over the board, im getting a 400 watt HPS in 2 weeks or less. i cant wait. heres a pic of my grow as of today, using only the 150 watt HPS. imagine what things will look like when a 400 watt HPS hits em...


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