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Offlineismokeweed

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getting a 400 watt light (hps or mh)
    #198578 - 02/22/09 12:17 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Which one light, the whole way through a grow, do you guys prefer? metal halide or high pressure sodium. I have neither yet and have no idea what would be best if either.

Also, online im seeing a lot of prices for just bulbs but not a fixture with them. I would have nothing to plug the light into. Anybody know of good websites that have them together or are they at lowes and such? sorry im insanely new to this but thanks for the help and patience.


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Re: getting a 400 watt light (hps or mh) [Re: ismokeweed]
    #198580 - 02/22/09 12:52 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Check out HID HUT.
As far as to which HPS or MH I say just get a digital ballast it runs both bulbs.
I myself use a sunway digital ballast 400 watt from that store.
The set with bulb runs under 200 dollars US.
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Re: getting a 400 watt light (hps or mh) [Re: Stoneth]
    #198589 - 02/22/09 01:44 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Look into digital ballasts, they can run both hps and mh bulbs so no need to choose.


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Re: getting a 400 watt light (hps or mh) [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #198729 - 02/22/09 02:37 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

In my opinion it is totally unnecessary to use a combination of MH/HPS or a digital ballast that runs both. When starting your first grow it doesn't usually make financial sense to spend top dollar on a hobby you may not even enjoy once you begin, and also, first time growers are usually the ones with big mouths and are prey to rip-offs of equipment and product!

So my advice to you is buy something cheap. You can always upgrade after your first few crops and by that time your equipment will pay for itself.

If it were me, I would buy the 400 watt HPS from here: http://htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=47929 It's very affordable and a great start-up kit. Its the cheapest kit I've come across yet, so if someone has found something cheaper please post it for me.

You can use an HPS light successfully for both vegetative and bloom phases, the only real benefit that an MH offers is more UVB output, and only makes a difference during resin production. Claims that MH is better for veg and HPS is better for bloom are best ignored in your case.


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Re: getting a 400 watt light (hps or mh) [Re: SevenFingers]
    #198732 - 02/22/09 03:17 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

SevenFingers said:
In my opinion it is totally unnecessary to use a combination of MH/HPS or a digital ballast that runs both. When starting your first grow it doesn't usually make financial sense to spend top dollar on a hobby you may not even enjoy once you begin, and also, first time growers are usually the ones with big mouths and are prey to rip-offs of equipment and product!

So my advice to you is buy something cheap. You can always upgrade after your first few crops and by that time your equipment will pay for itself.

If it were me, I would buy the 400 watt HPS from here: http://htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=47929 It's very affordable and a great start-up kit. Its the cheapest kit I've come across yet, so if someone has found something cheaper please post it for me.

You can use an HPS light successfully for both vegetative and bloom phases, the only real benefit that an MH offers is more UVB output, and only makes a difference during resin production. Claims that MH is better for veg and HPS is better for bloom are best ignored in your case.





You could do that or just send the extra 75 dollars and get the digital and learn right the first time.
MH is best for veg thanks to the added blue sepectrum not UVB light.
HPS is best for flower thanks to red, orange sepectrum.

The UVB you refer to is found in ultraviolet lights that yes some say helps with resin production.


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Re: getting a 400 watt light (hps or mh) [Re: Stoneth]
    #199326 - 02/23/09 03:24 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

stoney.69 said:
MH is best for veg thanks to the added blue sepectrum not UVB light.
HPS is best for flower thanks to red, orange sepectrum.

The UVB you refer to is found in ultraviolet lights that yes some say helps with resin production.




What I was referring to was the fact that MH has a higher output of UVB than HPS does, and will cause resin yields to be slightly higher than if HPS was used for the entire flowering cycle. The resins are a natural protection from UV light so when MH is used during the end of the flowering cycle the plant responds by creating more glands.

As far as MH blue spectrum being better for veg growth its pretty much a myth and you will get very similar results whether you use MH or HPS.


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Re: getting a 400 watt light (hps or mh) [Re: SevenFingers]
    #199335 - 02/23/09 03:34 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

i know ill enjoy this hobby and keep it up for a long time. i grew mushrooms for years and loved it and have always wanted to do this and finally am. i don't wanna cut any corners or do anything half assed. I want the healthiest plants/dankest buds possible.

Does this look like a good deal to you guys? http://www.hidhut.com/catalog/400w-hpsmh-digital-ballast-bulb-and-deluxe-reflector-combo-p-70.html?osCsid=63e48c2cfbc18faba09fba563a38b8cc

or do you think i would be better off just getting a ballast seperate and only the bulbs. If i understand right theres a cooler thing with it and i don't know if fans in the room will keep it cool enough or if thats better. anyways, just let me know what you guys think.


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Re: getting a 400 watt light (hps or mh) [Re: ismokeweed]
    #199338 - 02/23/09 03:36 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

yeah. I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with that. as soon as I have the money. I don't even have a job at the moment but its all coming into plan real nice now.


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Re: getting a 400 watt light (hps or mh) [Re: SevenFingers]
    #199354 - 02/23/09 03:53 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

SevenFingers said:
Quote:

stoney.69 said:
MH is best for veg thanks to the added blue sepectrum not UVB light.
HPS is best for flower thanks to red, orange sepectrum.

The UVB you refer to is found in ultraviolet lights that yes some say helps with resin production.






As far as MH blue spectrum being better for veg growth its pretty much a myth 




thats false.......:thumbdown:
you will get minor to moderate stretching with a hps during veg, i have seen this first hand, it will be noticeable and it will affect your tops.


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Re: getting a 400 watt light (hps or mh) [Re: johnnyblaze2316]
    #199528 - 02/24/09 02:17 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/customkititems.asp?kc=HLHPS04SEW&eq=
There is this 400w hps for almost a hundred dollars cheaper. Can anyone tell me if it will run mh and hps.


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Re: getting a 400 watt light (hps or mh) [Re: JMR]
    #199530 - 02/24/09 02:20 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I did't read the Hid hut one all the way through the first time. It seems like a pretty good deal if your going to get serious about this hobby.


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Re: getting a 400 watt light (hps or mh) [Re: JMR]
    #199546 - 02/24/09 03:37 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

MH better for veg simple as that

HPS better for budding

Resin protection from any type of light not true or the entire plant would be covered. They serve as more of a deterrent to animals then protection from light.


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Re: getting a 400 watt light (hps or mh) [Re: SevenFingers]
    #673805 - 06/07/13 03:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

SevenFingers said:
In my opinion it is totally unnecessary to use a combination of MH/HPS or a digital ballast that runs both. When starting your first grow it doesn't usually make financial sense to spend top dollar on a hobby you may not even enjoy once you begin, and also, first time growers are usually the ones with big mouths and are prey to rip-offs of equipment and product!

So my advice to you is buy something cheap. You can always upgrade after your first few crops and by that time your equipment will pay for itself.

If it were me, I would buy the 400 watt HPS from here: http://htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=47929 It's very affordable and a great start-up kit. Its the cheapest kit I've come across yet, so if someone has found something cheaper please post it for me.

You can use an HPS light successfully for both vegetative and bloom phases, the only real benefit that an MH offers is more UVB output, and only makes a difference during resin production. Claims that MH is better for veg and HPS is better for bloom are best ignored in your case.



Sir, I have found something of value.  :cool: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apollo-400-Watt-400w-MH-HPS-Grow-Light-Lamp-System-Set-Plant-Growing-/190843921052?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item721f5cfa3b


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Re: getting a 400 watt light (hps or mh) [Re: Atolas] * 1
    #673870 - 06/08/13 10:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

4 years old?

He prolly found somethin by now :/


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