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What are the best banks and the best strains?
    #275712 - 09/06/09 10:43 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Good evening guys! I'd love to know what are the best seedbanks and what varieties I should sample from each one. My favorite one is White Widow. What's the best place to order it? I've read on these boards Dutch Passion is not the best place to go.

I'm looking forward to opinions from experienced growers. I'm interested in good strains, basic strains like White Widow, Jack Herer or Northern Lights, I'd love to know where to buy these strains and what more strains to buy, and where! :laugh: 

I'm looking for good Indicas, Sativas and Hybrids. Just good strains and good seedbanks!

Thanks a lot!
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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: alexp]
    #275922 - 09/06/09 06:05 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I wonder if this isn't the right place to post this question. I'm asking for opinions... :laugh:

The strains I'm considering right now are:

Green House Seeds – Alaskan Ice / Hybrid
Nirvana Seeds – Afghani / Mostly Indica
Nirvana Seeds – Hindu Kush / Indica
Nirvana Seeds – Haze / Mostly Sativa
Nirvana Seeds – Ice /Hybrid
Nirvana Seeds – Northern Lights Pure Indica / Indica
Nirvana Seeds – Shiva / Hybrid
Nirvana Seeds – White Widow / Hybrid
Serious Seeds – AK47 / Hybrid
Serious Seeds – Bubblegum / Hybrid – TH SEEDS???
Serious Seeds – Kali Mist / Mostly Sativa
Soma Seeds – Amnesia Haze / Mostly Sativa
THS – SAGE
THS – MK Ultra
White Label – Neville’s Haze

Any opinions and suggestions? :laugh:

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: alexp]
    #276044 - 09/06/09 09:10 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Doc Chronic seeds or Seed Boutique are the ones that seem to be the best. As far as a good strain to grow if your just looking for a good strain in general go to Sensi Seeds, Soma, Serious, TFD, THseeds and pick a strain.

I like some of the old school strains. Skunk #1, Afghani #1, NL and not a whole lot else. There is a reason they are old school cause they don't come close to the quality of a Purple Erkle or a OG Kush. :wink:


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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: Magash]
    #276250 - 09/07/09 06:24 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you very much Magash! So in your opinion there are strains better than the old schoolers... I will look into those two you suggested!

What do you think of my list?

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: alexp]
    #276266 - 09/07/09 09:27 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

You could pick any strain on the list and have killer bud.

I'd probably do the Ice, MK Ultra, AK 47 (always had good luck with this strain)

Serious has better bubblegum genetics. (my opinion)


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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: Magash]
    #276291 - 09/07/09 11:41 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you so much Magash! 

I will go with those 3 and White Widow for now... White widow is my favorite! ^^

Do you think the best genetics for white widow are at Nirvana's or is there a better place for it? There are many banks with that strain.

Thanks a lot! :peace:

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: alexp]
    #276443 - 09/07/09 04:22 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

The best White Widow is now called "Black Widow" and is sold by Mr. Nice Seeds.  The name change is due to the fact that the breeder who originated the strain left Greenhouse Seeds and took his genetics with him. Most other "White Widow" seeds are just capitalizing on the name, and, while I'm sure you can find good smoke with that name, the original is only to be found at Mr. Nice Seeds.
As far as the rest of your list, THSeeds SAGE is great smoke, good for taking to a party, and a great conversational happy buzz, I highly recommend it.


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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: alexp]
    #276510 - 09/07/09 05:38 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I gotta go with 81 on this one. The best version is gonna be Mr. NIce's

You know a strain that I have always loved but don't hear much about now is Soma's Lavender


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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: Magash]
    #276514 - 09/07/09 06:10 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Good call Magash.
I don't think Soma's gear gets enough rep because of his cost/hype ratio, but I've got some Buddha's Sister x G13 Haze that I need to pop...If its worth the price, I'll be the first to hype it here.


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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: 81renaissance]
    #276594 - 09/07/09 08:23 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you so much guys! Great advice here! I'll go with that black widow from Mr. Nice. I'll also include the SAGE on my order. Very nice guys, thanks a lot! :laugh:

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: alexp]
    #278258 - 09/10/09 07:56 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

hey bro i have a nirvana bubblegum i can tell you man i had a couple ones outdoor that were just bomb, comparable to serious seeds bubblegum, no lie- however for consistency go with serious i got these from clone...or THseeds version ive heard very good things.
SOMA genetics are crazy really the diesel is all ive had but i want to try that lavender REAL bad...Nirvana's Ice is real good. cant really say about any of the other ones on your list but will have to agree anyone of them will probly yeild you brutal herb

also if you are in the states id say doctor chronic or seedboutique as well...if you're in europe however picknmix seeds dude just recently started fuckin with them and all 3 times its been really a pleasure...


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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: PFA]
    #278764 - 09/11/09 07:57 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks so much for the advice. I am in Europe but I think I'll still go with Seed Boutique and Dr. Chronic. :super:

Killer weed yeah, that's what I want!

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: alexp]
    #278809 - 09/11/09 10:55 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Ok guys, after some thinking, my selection came down to this! :laugh:

Ice / Hybrid / Nirvana
Mk Ultra / Indica / ThSeeds
SAGE / Hybid / ThSeeds
Kali Mist / Sativa / Serious

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: alexp]
    #278873 - 09/11/09 01:37 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Nice!  I don't care for the Nirvana strains myself but everything else there kicks ass!  I've heard great things about the Serious Kali-Mist.


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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: 81renaissance]
    #278904 - 09/11/09 05:24 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks bro! After reading the reviews at smokersguide.com I now decided to dump the Ice and go with the Black Widow from Mr. Nice!

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: alexp]
    #278909 - 09/11/09 05:45 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Great timing, Mr. Nice is supposed to be doing a drop of those seeds in a week!  They haven't been available for a while.

edit: I was mistaken, I thought it was a week, but its more like 3, they should drop around the beginning of October.


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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.

Edited by 81renaissance (09/11/09 07:13 PM)

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: alexp]
    #278911 - 09/11/09 05:49 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

it might be the way it was grown, but the Kali Mist I've gotten from the dispensary out here is very dissapointing potency wise.


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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #278947 - 09/11/09 07:09 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I've heard that about the KM.  I think the biggest mistake people are making with it is not letting it go long enough.  It is 100% sativa, and if you don't let it finish, its like smoking nothing.
Let that be a lesson to you alexp.


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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: 81renaissance]
    #278967 - 09/11/09 08:47 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Oh yeah, that kind of lesson is worth more than gold!

I'm not in hurry to get my seeds. I want everything to go perfect or as close as it can be so no worries!:wink:

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: alexp]
    #278982 - 09/11/09 09:13 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

What method are you thinking about using?


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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: 81renaissance]
    #278990 - 09/11/09 09:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I will be growing on soil. I will have ten square feet for flowering, ten square feet for mother plants and another ten square feet for clones.

On the first grow I will germinate enough seeds to have my ten square feet full of plants flowering and enough to have a mother plant of each. I will keep the mother plants of the strains I like, making clones of them and I'll order new seeds so I can always be trying new strains, flowering every 2 months or so.

I'm still not sure if I should choose a 600W HPS for my flowering space or if I should go with a 400W. It gets a bit warm in the summer here.I will have a special lightproof "closet" that I saw at my grow shop for my flowering plants.

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: alexp]
    #278993 - 09/11/09 09:57 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

To get the right amount of light to 10 sq feet of space your gonna need at least a 1000watt.


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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: Magash]
    #278994 - 09/11/09 10:00 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I was reading between 400W and 600W is what you should be looking for in such an area. It is 1 square meter... I think I read this on the Grower's Bible. Is it old information?

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: alexp]
    #278998 - 09/11/09 10:15 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

A 600 can pull off 9 sq feet. Over that and your gonna need a few more watts. Then again I forgot about the new 750watt lights that are out now.


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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: Magash]
    #279002 - 09/11/09 10:22 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I think my greatest issue will be to find a balance between the light I need for proper bud development and the amount of heat build up in my growing environment. The temperature on the warmer days in the summer is 86 in that room. :/

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: 81renaissance]
    #279072 - 09/12/09 12:05 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Drchronic and Gypsy Nirvana seed boutique

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: alexp]
    #279223 - 09/12/09 11:53 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

as long as you have adequate fresh air intake and stale air exhaust the heat issues shouldn't be a problem. heck, with a nice air cooled light you could keep your grow room only about 5 degrees warmer than outside at any given time.


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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #279258 - 09/12/09 12:51 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

What dimensions are you using to get 10 ft^2?


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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: 81renaissance]
    #279286 - 09/12/09 01:41 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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as long as you have adequate fresh air intake and stale air exhaust the heat issues shouldn't be a problem. heck, with a nice air cooled light you could keep your grow room only about 5 degrees warmer than outside at any given time.




Yeah, I will be buying a good fan for my exhaust. The FA will be coming from the pressure differential from the exhaust. I want to filter the air with a carbon filter also. I will have to check those air cooled lamps! :wink:

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What dimensions are you using to get 10 ft^2?




The area of the space where the grow "closet" will be is 320 square feet. The grow closet itself is around 3.2x3.2x6. I don't think I'm going to buy those closets for the mother plants and the clones, it's a bit expensive. It's lightproof so I'm thinking of doing the light on cycle during the night to avoid overheating.

The air that I exhaust from that 10 square feet area, can it go to the 320 square feet area or should it go outside?

Oh and with the carbon filter, do I also need an ionizer? Or does the carbon filter take care of it effectively?

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: alexp]
    #279335 - 09/12/09 04:09 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

In a 3.2 x 3.2 area, you need a MINIMUM of 512 Watts to reach a normal yield (based on the 50watts/sq ft rule of thumb).  So 600 would get the job done, but 1000 would increase your yield quite a bit.

I have heard of people venting into the surrounding room, you just have to make sure that the big space has a good amount of air exchange so that you're not recirculating high O2 low CO2 air back into your grow space, if the room is closed off, then definitely vent outside.

Carbon filter will be fine on its own, as long as you buy one sufficient to handle the CFM you're trying to push.


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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: 81renaissance]
    #279357 - 09/12/09 05:15 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I will go with the 600W HPS. I know some guys growing in an area like mine with a 400W with good results but for 20 euros a gram I prefer to grow my own and not have to worry with commercial overpriced strains.

The room has plenty of FAE.

The carbon filters at my grow shop start at 200 m3 per hour and end at 500m3 per hour. I have no idea of how to choose the filters and the exhaust for this setup.

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: alexp]
    #279362 - 09/12/09 05:29 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Well 200 cubic meters per hour is the equivalent of about 3 cubic meters a minute you have 2 cubic meters of grow space that you need to filter so that equates to 1.5 air exchanges per minute.  So if you bump that up to 4 cubic meters per minute or 240 cubic meters per hour, you should be fine (2 exchanges per minute)
I've seen setups with 5 air exchanges per minute, and some people say that this is optimum, but I've never done more than 3, and I haven't had any issues.


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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.

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Re: What are the best banks and the best strains? [Re: 81renaissance]
    #279409 - 09/12/09 09:03 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

The exhaust fans in the store go up to 320 cubic meters per hour. The carbon filters upgrade with increments of 100 cubic meters up to 500. Should I choose a 320 cubic meters exhaust fan for a 300 cubic meters carbon filter? The closest exhaust fan does 200 cubic meters per hour.

Is the cost/efficiency worth it for the upgrade from 200 cubic meters per hour to 300?

Thank you so much for all your help!

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