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The Argument Thread
    #229820 - 05/21/09 12:22 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Since I like "arguing" with people about weird things I have decided to start this thread. Post why you hate something and let people agree or disagree with you.......

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Triptonic]
    #229823 - 05/21/09 12:26 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i agree . No i dont. hmm actually yha i agree.....wait a minute . i am argumenting with myself.. wtf !!!


I agree !~

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Hydro]
    #229826 - 05/21/09 12:28 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

great arguement :thumbdown: lol

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Triptonic]
    #229827 - 05/21/09 12:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I hate this guy named triptonic, what a total douche.  :hairmetal:  :rockman:  :discorex:  :hairmetal: But seriously, I don't wanna argue, I do it enough since my scholarship is for debate.


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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #229829 - 05/21/09 12:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

then dont fuckin post here loser

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #229830 - 05/21/09 12:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I hate people who cannot argue properly.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: bananatelephone]
    #229831 - 05/21/09 12:34 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

:thumbup: Agreed, I also hate overly-religious people.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Triptonic]
    #229832 - 05/21/09 12:37 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I also hate people who make false assumptions and are too quick to judge people. There is no reason to hate on someone for their faith, because that leads to hate crimes.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: bananatelephone]
    #229835 - 05/21/09 12:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I dont like some faiths but thats because some faiths require you to kill other people to get into "heaven"

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Triptonic]
    #229836 - 05/21/09 12:42 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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then dont fuckin post here loser




Nice  . First real argument in this thread !!  :thumbup:

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: bananatelephone]
    #229837 - 05/21/09 12:43 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

There are plenty of reasons to hate people over faith actually. Opposing ideas of what is wrong/right, an inherent aggressive attitude within the religion, or if the religion is just a brainwashing cult, although by definition all religions are cults.


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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Triptonic]
    #229838 - 05/21/09 12:43 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

What religion is that?


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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Hydro]
    #229839 - 05/21/09 12:45 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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then dont fuckin post here loser




Nice  . First real argument in this thread !!  :thumbup:




lol I had to get it started eventually guess I shoulda said I hate people who post on threads that "they dont want to be a part of" and then they post again with an arguement.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Triptonic]
    #229840 - 05/21/09 12:46 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Not my fault there are no other active threads I want to post it. :mad:


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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #229841 - 05/21/09 12:47 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Than create your own Or did your imagination took off at the same time your intellect did ?

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #229842 - 05/21/09 12:47 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

lol its alright you are helping start the arguements.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Hydro]
    #229843 - 05/21/09 12:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

My intellect is actually quite intact, and I don't like starting threads when there is a possibility I will be forced to leave soon after.


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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #229844 - 05/21/09 12:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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There are plenty of reasons to hate people over faith actually. Opposing ideas of what is wrong/right, an inherent aggressive attitude within the religion, or if the religion is just a brainwashing cult, although by definition all religions are cults.




Example of cult.....The Jonestown Massacre. Fucking Jim Jones.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #229845 - 05/21/09 12:49 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #229848 - 05/21/09 12:52 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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There are plenty of reasons to hate people over faith actually. Opposing ideas of what is wrong/right, an inherent aggressive attitude within the religion, or if the religion is just a brainwashing cult, although by definition all religions are cults.




No that is completely wrong, what you would want to say is that you hate an organized religion which portrays negative attitudes and brainwashes people. The connotation of brainwash suggests that the people have no choice and are victims in the scenario. Hating PEOPLE for their beliefs is intolerant.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Triptonic]
    #229849 - 05/21/09 12:53 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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There are plenty of reasons to hate people over faith actually. Opposing ideas of what is wrong/right, an inherent aggressive attitude within the religion, or if the religion is just a brainwashing cult, although by definition all religions are cults.




Example of cult.....The Jonestown Massacre. Fucking Jim Jones.



So you should hate innocent people who committed suicide? Hating Jim Jones is understandable, but hating people following the faith is a ridiculous statement, they were innocent people who believed in a relatively good a idea which was skewed by one zealot.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: bananatelephone]
    #229851 - 05/21/09 12:55 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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There are plenty of reasons to hate people over faith actually. Opposing ideas of what is wrong/right, an inherent aggressive attitude within the religion, or if the religion is just a brainwashing cult, although by definition all religions are cults.




No that is completely wrong, what you would want to say is that you hate an organized religion which portrays negative attitudes and brainwashes people. The connotation of brainwash suggests that the people have no choice and are victims in the scenario. Hating PEOPLE for their beliefs is intolerant.




When they try to push their beliefs off on me is when I start gettting pissed at them.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: bananatelephone]
    #229852 - 05/21/09 12:56 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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There are plenty of reasons to hate people over faith actually. Opposing ideas of what is wrong/right, an inherent aggressive attitude within the religion, or if the religion is just a brainwashing cult, although by definition all religions are cults.




Example of cult.....The Jonestown Massacre. Fucking Jim Jones.



So you should hate innocent people who committed suicide? Hating Jim Jones is understandable, but hating people following the faith is a ridiculous statement, they were innocent people who believed in a relatively good a idea which was skewed by one zealot.




Also I didnt say I hated the people....I said it was an example of a cult :grin:

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: bananatelephone]
    #229854 - 05/21/09 12:56 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Actually if they are one of the leaders of that brainwashing cult, cough cough Scientology, I am completely able to hate them for brainwashing their own worshipers. Hating people for their beliefs is what the human race has been doing since the dawn of religion. Human beings by nature are aggressive destructive people, why else would we of created religion and politics?


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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Triptonic]
    #229855 - 05/21/09 12:57 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

do like most of them bro. strap a fucking bomb to yourself and blow them apart.

Joking i feel like being an asshole today !

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Triptonic]
    #229856 - 05/21/09 12:57 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I am fairly sure no one ever tried to convince you to move to an island...

And being pissed at Jehovahs for example for going to door to door is understandable because they are inconveniencing you, but that is something a lot different than hating them for being Jehovahs.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: bananatelephone]
    #229858 - 05/21/09 12:58 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Was Jim Jones not a member of his own cult?


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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: bananatelephone]
    #229861 - 05/21/09 01:00 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

So its OK to be mad at someone for knocking on your door, but not OK to be mad at them because according to their beliefs they are going to hell?


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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: bananatelephone]
    #229862 - 05/21/09 01:01 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

No im talking about people who tell me that "If I dont have faith in god im going to hell, so wash your hands of sin and come join the party at the church".

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    #229863 - 05/21/09 01:01 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

He was the leader.

And it is understandable to disagree with a man who committed genocide of his own followers, because that is reasonable grounds to dislike someone.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #229867 - 05/21/09 01:03 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

:popcorn::popcorn:


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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Triptonic]
    #229869 - 05/21/09 01:04 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Well most religions believe everyone not within their religion is not exactly going to heaven, since the purpose of most belief systems are to ensure a trip to Heaven, Brahman, Nirvana, Valhalla, etc... While not all of them particularly damn those not within their religion, they keep them out of the place to be desired.


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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #229870 - 05/21/09 01:04 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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So its OK to be mad at someone for knocking on your door, but not OK to be mad at them because according to their beliefs they are going to hell?



So you are religious and their religion disagrees with yours? Then you are being intolerant and not accepting the fact that there are many people out there with many different beliefs. Because we have different opinions doesn't mean you should hate me? Why would you hate someone who is in conflict with your personal dogma?

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    #229871 - 05/21/09 01:04 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: bananatelephone]
    #229872 - 05/21/09 01:05 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

dude she is fuckin sickwitit on the smarts n whatnot :crazy2:


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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: bananatelephone]
    #229873 - 05/21/09 01:06 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

But what if he bought into his own religious beliefs SO MUCH that he believed that it was best for them to die? Heck the current leader of Scientology most likely actually buys into all the bullsh*t.


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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #229875 - 05/21/09 01:07 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Well most religions believe everyone not within their religion is not exactly going to heaven, since the purpose of most belief systems are to ensure a trip to Heaven, Brahman, Nirvana, Valhalla, etc... While not all of them particularly damn those not within their religion, they keep them out of the place to be desired.




This brings me to another point....Debaters suck lol I mean you pretty much didnt debate anything and made it seem like you did...All I said was I hate the people who damn me to hell when im not part of their religion. I didnt ask about any other religion lol.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: bananatelephone]
    #229877 - 05/21/09 01:07 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Because they are telling me that I am going to be damned for all eternity is a pretty good reason to hate a religion. I mean anyone at all who isn't christian is, according to christian doctrine, going to hell.


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    #229881 - 05/21/09 01:10 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

That is the point I am making, almost anyone in any religion you are not part of is going to hell, not passing on to another plane of existence is the equivalent of damning someone to hell just not really damning in the exact tense. I was just stating that you hating people that damn you to hell, means you hate almost every religious person in the world.

Also there is a reason Debaters never debate religion, there are so many differing opinions that the extemporaneous knowledge that someone could have on a subject could be unfair to a nonreligious opponent.


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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #229883 - 05/21/09 01:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

lol well yes I do but only because I also believe that religion is a cult, although some religions are better than others. (Buddhism)

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    #229884 - 05/21/09 01:14 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think anyone is arguing anymore as much as your are all just speculating. Also none of you are stating any new facts to back up your own opinions  and are neglecting to read what I am actually saying.

I also think it was wrong of any of us to use the term hate.

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    #229886 - 05/21/09 01:14 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I know I was hoping this thread didnt go the religion route.....someone change topics! haha

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    #229887 - 05/21/09 01:14 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Well good to know you don't hate Buddhists, but i gotta go to sonic, happy hour is calling my name.


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    #229888 - 05/21/09 01:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't think anyone is arguing anymore as much as your are all just speculating. Also none of you are stating any new facts to back up your own opinions  and are neglecting to read what I am actually saying.

I also think it was wrong of any of us to use the term hate.




Hate is a powerful word, but if you feel strongly against something why not use the term "hate"

I hate ignorant people....

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: bananatelephone]
    #229890 - 05/21/09 01:19 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Speculating? I am stating facts from other religions, I know what other religions believe since I am studying theology. I really don't see much speculating, I am quite certain on my facts and I am not arguing on any unstable ground since to do so I would have to be arguing on opinions of a religion, but since these are all facts that I have brought up, I am pretty sure I am safe via the though of pure speculation.

And I was not wrong in my use of the word hate.

Hate: the emotion of intense dislike; a feeling of dislike so strong that it demands action.

Oh and on the question of why I would hate someone just because of differing dogma, their truth is opposed to mine. Meaning to them everything I believe is a lie.


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    #229894 - 05/21/09 01:22 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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I know I was hoping this thread didnt go the religion route.....someone change topics! haha



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    #229896 - 05/21/09 01:24 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Me too


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    #229897 - 05/21/09 01:24 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

ohhh dude see some hip-hop bands I like check them out then tell me if you still dont like them.

Wu-tang clan
The Roots
GZA

Just listen to some songs by them and listen to the lyrics and see if you like them....I used to "hate" rap but now-a-days I think its just as good as rock.

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    #229900 - 05/21/09 01:30 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Also for the record, just to prove that none of you were reading and responding properly to the topic at hand, the argument wasn't over religion, it was whether or not we should hate people based on their belief system. And if you all still believe that it is alright to hate someone for what they believe, I can safely say you are wrong. So what, conflict may drive society, you may not like what church someone goes to, but that is certainly no grounds to hate them as a person.

As for rap and hip hip, I never listened to it, but now I do because of my significant other. My list of acceptable hip hip rap groups are:

Atmosphere, Immortal Technique, Wu-Tang, maybe some others....

AND Three Six Mafia just for the novelty of weed smoking songs.

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    #229906 - 05/21/09 01:34 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Atmosphere is good I agree, check out Brother Ali if you like atmosphere banana.

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    #229910 - 05/21/09 01:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Will do :thumbup:.

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    #229911 - 05/21/09 01:37 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

well im not sayin some rappers dont have talent.....i just cant take it.....i get mad and kick my friends out of my house because they star playing rap....ive always hated it for some reason........alot of the newer stuff is even worse it isnt even music its a bunch of beeps and clicks made by a computer and a rapper that doesnt even rhyme......i prefer the musical standpoint the tune to be complex.......not saying i dont like the lyrical point of either......i just prefer people playing instruments along with soothing music that isnt talking about smokin crack, killing people, or raping people .........just my opinion of course


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    #229912 - 05/21/09 01:37 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

the song room with a view is good.

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    #229915 - 05/21/09 01:39 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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well im not sayin some rappers have talent.....i just cant take it.....i get mad and kick my friends out of my house because they star playing rap....ive always hated it for some reason........alot of the newer stuff is even worse it isnt even music its a bunch of beeps and clicks made by a computer and a rapper that doesnt even rhyme......i prefer the musical standpoint the tune to be complex.......not saying i dont like the lyrical point of either......i just prefer people playing instruments along with soothing music that isnt talking about smokin crack, killing people, or raping people .........just my opinion of course




lol most of the artists I listed dont talk about smokin crack or raping people....killing people yes, but they grew up in a bad part of town. I would say most rap is just anti-government. Kinda like me.

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    #229920 - 05/21/09 01:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

oops i meant to say
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    #229926 - 05/21/09 01:47 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I know none of you are Swedish, but I kinda like this Swedish group, but then again....I can understand the words... But thought it would be nice to broaden your horizons guys.


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    #229929 - 05/21/09 01:49 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

well then I guess you are just gonna have to translate......I expect the full translation on my desk right meow.

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    #229931 - 05/21/09 01:53 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

lol oh gawd. That used to be my career choice, translation....I never thought of how tedious it can be.

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    #229935 - 05/21/09 01:58 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Translation from sweedish to english and vice versa?

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    #229939 - 05/21/09 02:04 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

No, French/English. I could do Swedish, I suppose, but in Canada that isn't so high demand.

Why is there no more arguing?

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    #229946 - 05/21/09 02:11 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I hate the government and the way student loans work.

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    #229947 - 05/21/09 02:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

yeah....and i hate how the government wont legalize marijuana for some stupid ass ignorant reason....


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    #229950 - 05/21/09 02:20 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

its because they cant admit they were wrong about it.

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    #229954 - 05/21/09 02:25 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

:strokebeard:...true


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    #229979 - 05/21/09 03:26 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Cats or dogs?

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    #230008 - 05/21/09 05:27 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I hate Kurt Cobain and Nirvana.


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    #230012 - 05/21/09 05:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

you couldn't be any more wrong, you fucking twat. do you have any taste whatsoever

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    #230014 - 05/21/09 05:33 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

well......uh......you're wrong.

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    #230017 - 05/21/09 05:37 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

dude I dont know how anyone can hate Kurt Kobain or Nirvana......I hate courtney love.

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    #230018 - 05/21/09 05:38 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

How can I be wrong about me hating someone? This thread was originally for a place with arguments, most of them pretty decent. and then you respond to a prompt with a personal attack (witch is a form of harassment and a violation on the forum guidelines mind you.) I'm glad to know you can't make a honest attempt at trying to defend him. it gives me more warrant to dislike him.


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    #230019 - 05/21/09 05:39 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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dude I dont know how anyone can hate Kurt Kobain or Nirvana......I hate courtney love.




Well since I enjoy Technical aspects of musical theory, the simple repetitive riffs of nirvana just turn my stomach.


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    #230020 - 05/21/09 05:40 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

lol dude just starting an argument..


but yeah, you're so wrong

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    #230021 - 05/21/09 05:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Just cuz his riffs were repetitive doesnt mean anything....its the lyrics I like.

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    #230022 - 05/21/09 05:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

you're wrong for admitting you can't hang around ur folks.

but that was funny.

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    #230024 - 05/21/09 05:43 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

But really I just hate how Nirvana sounds, They just dont do enough for me. Now give me some Progressive Rock, Progressive Metal, of any metal where the singer isnt making those disgusting guttural screams. I also like classic rock.

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    #230025 - 05/21/09 05:44 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Name some bands that have technical aspects of music theroy.

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    #230026 - 05/21/09 05:45 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

no.


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    #230028 - 05/21/09 05:47 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

You see that's the problem though, I enjoy deep emotional riffs and solo's that move your soul right out of your body. I mean as a kid my parents raised me listening to guitarists like Hendrix, Dimebag, Rhoads, Iommi, and Zakk Wylde. When my friends in school tried to get me to listen to grunge music I literally laughed in their faces.


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    #230029 - 05/21/09 05:47 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

oops i meant to ask booedock.

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    #230030 - 05/21/09 05:47 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

lol dude i was 13
im way more right than you'll evar be

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    #230031 - 05/21/09 05:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I just mean they use Music theory and are innovative with it. Sorry if the way I put it was hard to understand, its just how I like to put it.


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    #230033 - 05/21/09 05:53 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

lol dude I would say (the Beatles, pink floyd, wu-tang clan, the brian jonestown massacre, nirvana, the roots, sublime, the doors, radiohead) are or were all musically talented out the ass and even though dimebag and zakk could play fast and accurately doesnt mean they are good musicians by any means. Now Hendrix yea he could play, and was good at it. But I fuckin hate Zakk Wyldes false harmonics it seems to me that all he can do is play false harmonics.........and yes I used to listen to all that stuff before I realized that they werent very good.

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    #230035 - 05/21/09 06:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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lol dude i was 13
im way more right than you'll evar be




yea right, you are the wrongest.

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    #230038 - 05/21/09 06:05 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Dimebag was one of the greatest guitarists of all time. His pinch harmonics, shredding skills, and whammy bar technique made him stand out of any lineup. I really don't know how you can say he wasn't a good musician.

I would keep arguing by my new guitar legends magazine is screaming my name, I actually feel bad for ignoring it. So, for the sake of me getting to playing my own guitar, I will say you have a point. But that doesn't stop me from hating Cobain.


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    #230039 - 05/21/09 06:08 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)



if you don't know, now you know.


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    #230040 - 05/21/09 06:09 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Look I feel bad that he got shot on stage, but that doesnt make him the greatest guitar player of all time......there are probably a million guitarists better than he was. I used to like metal and I have listened to pantera and zakk for years but I just dont find them as good as bands like The Black Keys or The White Stripes or The Flaming Lips.

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    #230041 - 05/21/09 06:15 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Well I just enjoy the guitar being the driving force that makes the song hit home. Yes lyrics are great, in fact a song is not even worth listening to if it doesn't have good lyrics in my opinion, but the guitarist structuring his riffs/solos/bridges perfectly with the emotion/message of the song and still making it sound so aggressive is what drives a guitarist to perfection in my opinion. But then again everything I say is opinion and you cant prove me wrong, nor can I you, but really my guitar is practically crying in the corner.


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    #230043 - 05/21/09 06:21 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

lol yea mine is crying from not being played in a little while....I gotta get my creative juices flowing again:bigjoint:

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    #230081 - 05/21/09 08:42 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

OK OK OK OK OK OK AHEM AHEM AHEM...zakk wylde doesn't do "false" harmonics...they're called pinch harmonics. secondly...dimebag is the fuckin man. there's a guy named tony rice, look him up too. and triptonic, how in the motherfuck can you say the white stripes are good? boonedocksaint..i know i fucked up your name, but i didn't know you listened to that time of music. bls is the shit too. so is down. anyway...triptonic..well...whatever

and kurt cobain shit is simple...first thing i ever learned on guitar was come as you are...dimebag ftw


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    #230096 - 05/21/09 09:03 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I was just listing off bands that I like better and yes the white stripes I like better than fuckin pantera......


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    #230101 - 05/21/09 09:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

thats kinda got a led zepplin/hendrix feel to it...but how's this for originality?



disregard phil's heroined out/ drunk as fuck lyrics and tell me you don't feel the fuckin power comin from that ONE guitar. jack white ain't got shit on that. seriously though, nobody's gonna win this argument, but dimebag pwns guitar playing. him, hendrix, rhoads, clapton, tony rice, SRV, muddy waters, bb king, all those fuckers..
fast forward to about 3 minutes in that video and tell me that guitar solo don't fuckin get your dick hard and if you don't youre a fuckin lyer


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    #230102 - 05/21/09 09:20 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

lol man if I was 5 or 6 years younger I would like that stuff... but now-a days I like this band a lot


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    #230105 - 05/21/09 09:26 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

do your thing man. music is anything you want it to be. rock on :headbang:


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    #230109 - 05/21/09 09:37 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

at least we can agree dave matthews sux lol

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    #230111 - 05/21/09 09:40 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

dave matthews band doesnt suck


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    #230112 - 05/21/09 09:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

o shit man then you don't know what music is lol
1.) He's a douchebag
2.) He's a Bro-fest musician
3.) He sucks at everything he does
4.) If you want a good jam bad look at Grateful Dead
5.) He gives jam-bands a bad name.
6.) He's a little Pansy bitch!

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    #230114 - 05/21/09 09:45 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

:facepalm: you play any instruments?


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    #230116 - 05/21/09 09:47 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Dude I have been playing guitar for like 8 years. And dave matthews fucking blows sooo much cock! Grateful dead is a wayyyyy better jam-band. Plus hes a "bro"

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    #230117 - 05/21/09 09:49 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

you sayin dave matthews is black????????????and the musicianship in that band is incredible dude. and btw, dave matthews is not black if that's what you were saying. some people in the band are however...get your facts right bro.  go play some of his songs


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    #230119 - 05/21/09 09:53 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Haha dude its a "Bro" band get your facts straight man. I'm sure you've seen/ heard about bromance.....this is what im refering to. As in hes a bro-fest band. You might want to look some shit up.....he doesnt even compare to grateful dead. How old are you?

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    #230120 - 05/21/09 09:55 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i was never comparing him to the grateful dead


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    #230121 - 05/21/09 09:58 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I was, plus I dont like his music at all....in my opinion he sucks big floppy donkey dick. And now do you know what I mean by Bro? A "bro" is a white douchebag. Which is typically seen at dave matthews concerts. They drink a lot and like to slap each others asses and call each other bro.

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    #230123 - 05/21/09 10:01 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

never seen him live, i wouldnt know.


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    #230125 - 05/21/09 10:03 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

lol neither have I but the people who go to his concerts are lame man. I have buddies that dont smoke and thats who they "love" hes so fuckin lame.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Triptonic]
    #230145 - 05/21/09 11:59 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)




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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: b0b gnarley]
    #230153 - 05/22/09 12:54 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

lmao yea ive seen that before farbeyonddriven needs to take a look to see what im talking about lol

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Triptonic]
    #230157 - 05/22/09 01:44 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i was talkin about music dude...yall brought this up...whatever


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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #230266 - 05/22/09 09:12 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

music that bro's listen to.....

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    #231126 - 05/23/09 09:46 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I hate dealers that think they are your friends after they deal to you once.......or dealers that rip you off a just a little bit when they should be hooking you up a little. Or people who are like "dude this is the dankest shit I have ever smoked" and then it turns out to be shit and you drove all the way over to pick it up then you have to be like sorry man I dont think im gonna buy that shit. haha.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Triptonic]
    #231133 - 05/23/09 09:52 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I agree, there's this chick down here that we refer to as "6 gram 30" She is our LAST resort, haven't even bought from her after 2 weeks of dry spell. Price down here is 25 a qtr for swag, she sold 30 a qtr for swag and it was a 6 gram qtr.


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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #231136 - 05/23/09 09:54 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

dude i have never not smoked weed for 2 weeks i dont think. anyways, she's stupid


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    #231138 - 05/23/09 10:00 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

lol ya dude I bought a sack of dank from a buddy of mines dealer.....he aparently thought that a "sack" was 2.5 grams. What a fucking dumbass. I told him that he ripped me off and he was like well im not giving you another gram cuz when you buy dank it is always 2.5. And I got sooo pissed at that motherfucker. Last time I ever buy from him.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #231140 - 05/23/09 10:03 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

yeah i hate when some people sell a "quarter" and it ends up to be 6 grams without the bag


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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #231142 - 05/23/09 10:09 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

dont you mean with the bag? maybe you do mean without lol

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Triptonic]
    #231149 - 05/23/09 10:22 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I sold 8 gram qtrs and 4 gram 8ths. That was without the bag too. I miss those days, I shoulda still been in bussiness but a dude ripped me on $700 bucks.


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    #231183 - 05/23/09 11:54 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

:fork: I woulda killed that bitch.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Triptonic]
    #231276 - 05/24/09 09:58 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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dont you mean with the bag? maybe you do mean without lol



no because alot of bags ive seen weigh anywhere from 0.8 - 1.3....most of the time they add 1.0 gram even....so when id weigh it it with the bag it weighs around quarter ounce....7.0......but without the bag it'll weigh around a gram less....6.0...... which is not a "quarter ounce" or a "nik" as some call it....its just six grams......a gram is a big difference (especially with some good weed being up to 20$ per gram) when i say i want a quarter i want a quarter , even if it is a little bit more $ for 7.0 g's, thats what i want because i asked for a quarter ounce nothing less, so it can last me a little longer without having to go drive to get more weed sooner than i need to.......a gram can go a long way.....btw it pisses me off :shakefist: .......thats one of the reasons i grow hydro now! lol,  beside the fact that it provides me with a shitload of (practically free) bomb weed.....
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    #231324 - 05/24/09 12:50 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

So are they being fucking stupid and weighing it with the bag and just not adding the gram or are they weighing it seperately and just jipping you a gram? lol my dealers always weigh the weed seperatly and let me look at the scale to make sure its right. But yea the reason I am trying my hand at growing is cuz I dont want to pay that much for shit and then get ripped off anymore.

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Re: The Argument Thread [Re: Triptonic]
    #231421 - 05/24/09 04:54 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

not enough arguing
you're all wrong.

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