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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Tangerines]
    #72183 - 07/04/08 03:39 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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There are few places I'd rather live other than America.  All of them are in Europe.



whats your point? 

nationalism is still stupid.


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Doitagain]
    #72185 - 07/04/08 03:40 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

There is nothing wrong with liking the country you live in and celebrating it's existence.


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Tangerines]
    #72192 - 07/04/08 03:48 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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There is nothing wrong with liking the country you live in and celebrating it's existence.



in your opinion.

in my opinion nationalism is a terrible disease, as long as there is nationalism there will be war.  The fact is all it does is create imaginary distinctions between peoples.


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Doitagain]
    #72194 - 07/04/08 03:49 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

The fact remains you can bitch and moan all you want and nothing will change. Congrats! :irishtoast:


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Doitagain]
    #72195 - 07/04/08 03:50 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

you could say the same of religion, color, or any distinguishable factor.


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Doitagain]
    #72196 - 07/04/08 03:51 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Happy 4th of July. Today hopefully Americans will reflect on just how good we have it as a country and while our system has its flaws we still have one of the greatest countries in the world and have much to be grateful for!

Time to smoke :bongload:



lol are you fucking kidding me?  Our country is in the shitter, and the idea of nationalism is stupid in the first place. 

I love my country despite its flaws. The only way to change things is to actively engage them

Do you think people are gonna be thinking "hmm our country is flawed but its still pretty good" when they hear shit like "we'll put a boot in your ass it's the american way"?

hell no, they're gonna be caught up in some group/america is number 1 mentality that its detrimental to our social consciousness.

IMO 4th of july is nothing but an annual mass brainwashing session designed to make people feel good about their country after seeing the pretty colors.

FUCK AMERICA!




Go look at some third world countries who are engaged in century long tribal wars. You are truly ignorant if you think America is this great demon. Why do you think everyone tries to come here?


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Picklez]
    #72197 - 07/04/08 03:52 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

He lives in OC. He is in the largest and most dense suburban bubble in America. :nonono:
It's rather disgusting.


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Picklez]
    #72198 - 07/04/08 03:53 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

america is just as bad as everyone else. :shrug:

no one is perfect.


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: usg543]
    #72204 - 07/04/08 03:55 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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america is just as bad as everyone else. :shrug:

no one is perfect.




I didnt say we were. I said our system has flaws but we also have a lot of freedoms that other people dont have and that we should be grateful for the freedoms that we do have.


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Picklez]
    #72206 - 07/04/08 03:57 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i think we don't have enough freedom myself.

patriot act
drug war

i want more freedom dammit.


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Tangerines]
    #72207 - 07/04/08 03:58 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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He lives in OC. He is in the largest and most dense suburban bubble in America. :nonono:
It's rather disgusting.



actually you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Doitagain]
    #72209 - 07/04/08 03:59 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I know you are a smug Californian who thinks they rank supreme but really fall far too short. :toast:


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Picklez]
    #72214 - 07/04/08 04:02 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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KillerPicklez said:
Happy 4th of July. Today hopefully Americans will reflect on just how good we have it as a country and while our system has its flaws we still have one of the greatest countries in the world and have much to be grateful for!

Time to smoke :bongload:



lol are you fucking kidding me?  Our country is in the shitter, and the idea of nationalism is stupid in the first place. 

I love my country despite its flaws. The only way to change things is to actively engage them

Do you think people are gonna be thinking "hmm our country is flawed but its still pretty good" when they hear shit like "we'll put a boot in your ass it's the american way"?

hell no, they're gonna be caught up in some group/america is number 1 mentality that its detrimental to our social consciousness.

IMO 4th of july is nothing but an annual mass brainwashing session designed to make people feel good about their country after seeing the pretty colors.

FUCK AMERICA!




Go look at some third world countries who are engaged in century long tribal wars. You are truly ignorant if you think America is this great demon. Why do you think everyone tries to come here?



when did i say america was some great demon.  all i said was we were "in the shitter right now" which we are.  and that the nationalism we encounter serves to pacify the masses and make them forget about whats going on.  People get swept up in a patriotic fervor and are blinded to the flaws of our country.

Nationalism has been a major reason for wars throughout history, it is not a  good thing for humanity.  And the 4th of july is full of it.  this is all im trying to say about the holiday.


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Doitagain]
    #72216 - 07/04/08 04:03 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Nobody cares about your liberal pussy douche views. :toast:
Enjoy the day off and leave it at that.


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Doitagain]
    #72218 - 07/04/08 04:05 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

actually we aren't in the shitter.


weak dollar = more exports = more jobs

understand?

it will even itself out soon enough.


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Tangerines]
    #72220 - 07/04/08 04:05 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Nobody cares about your liberal pussy douche views. :toast:
Enjoy the day off and leave it at that.




:thumbup:


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Tangerines]
    #72224 - 07/04/08 04:07 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Nobody cares about your liberal pussy douche views. :toast:
Enjoy the day off and leave it at that.



i would have to see that people apparently did care, because they engendered a response.


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: usg543]
    #72225 - 07/04/08 04:07 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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actually we aren't in the shitter.


weak dollar = more exports = more jobs

understand?

it will even itself out soon enough.




not to mention that high oil prices are going to lead manufacturing jobs back to the US


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Picklez]
    #72226 - 07/04/08 04:08 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

lol this is all just speculation.


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Re: EMC-thread-freedom-4th-july-yay-patriotic and stuff [Re: Picklez]
    #72228 - 07/04/08 04:09 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Nobody cares about your liberal pussy douche views. :toast:
Enjoy the day off and leave it at that.




:thumbup:




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