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OfflineezKiel
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Opiates
    #98060 - 07/30/08 03:06 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Do they have any redeeming qualities?


All I ever see is someone having a good time with an OC here and there. Than they do it more. Than more. And either go through a mini hell quitting or start using H.


Do people use these over long terms without fucking themselves over? And even if they do manage to afford the pills and stay afloat did it ever enhance their life for the better?

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Re: Opiates [Re: ezKiel]
    #98066 - 07/30/08 03:17 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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ezKiel said:

Do people use these over long terms without fucking themselves over?




no.


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Re: Opiates [Re: ezKiel]
    #98070 - 07/30/08 03:23 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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NobodyImportant said:
Quote:

ezKiel said:

Do people use these over long terms without fucking themselves over?




no.




No matter what with long term use your tolerance is going to get jacked. Taking like double or triple your dose every day to get the same effects with any drug is going to eventually "fuck you over" in some shape or form. Personally I reserve Opiates for those special occasions of brilliant impulsive drug consumption.

Moderation is the key.


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Re: Opiates [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #98072 - 07/30/08 03:27 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Ok cool. Cause I've made poppy tea only a few times (like less than 5) and kinda liked it. But that was almost 2 years ago.


Recently I was considering getting an OC or vic and doing a half when I roll my paycheque blunt this wkend. But I really would rather avoid a potentially slippery slope. Maybe I'll try one around my birthday and stick to a once a year sort of thing.

I'm just wondering how much and how long (for someone with zero tolerance) before I'd start wanting more.

Like with cigarettes I had one than none for a long time. Than a few when I drank than everyday.

Now I'm a few days into seriously quitting. But the progression from never smoking to becoming a smoker came way too easily.

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Re: Opiates [Re: ezKiel]
    #98128 - 07/30/08 04:30 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

moderation is key. opiates every now and then are a gift from god. any more than that and it becomes messy.


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: Opiates [Re: still beLIEve]
    #98145 - 07/30/08 04:39 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

yeah. ive seen too many A&E Interventions with doped up kids who didn't know when to call it a day. That show's good for keeping you in check.

Fuck meth, coke, and H. Too easy for the drugs to start abusing you.

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Re: Opiates [Re: ezKiel]
    #98158 - 07/30/08 04:47 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

yeah fuck H.... but other opiates can be very enjoyable.


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: Opiates [Re: still beLIEve]
    #98167 - 07/30/08 05:02 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

if you can put it down after a couple days of abuse/use, then they are pretty safe
its all about self control and how much you have, i just buy myself a couple 80s and do em up in a few days and not think about them for a month or two


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Re: Opiates [Re: ezKiel]
    #98169 - 07/30/08 05:05 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

ezKiel said:

Do people use these over long terms without fucking themselves over?



yes

example....me moderation is key.

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Re: Opiates [Re: Agent00]
    #98177 - 07/30/08 05:12 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

20 questions (well just 4)

How long have you been moderating?

How many mg's did you start with of OC or vic? 

how often do you use it?

how much more did you increase your dose?

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Re: Opiates [Re: ezKiel]
    #98316 - 07/30/08 07:54 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Wow you people are fucking retarded. OC is called hillbilly heroin for a reason. I've seen more people fuck up with that shit and H. They both are equally addictive, H is just more economical of an opiate.

I've done my share of opiates and sure after a prolonged period of use the first day or two quitting will suck, but you take the bad with the good.

Will power is what it comes down to. Some have it and some don't. I have it. Don't let it fuck up your life. It really is that easy though it can seem hard.

I never have used needles though from what I understand that is a different ball park. I've seen that shit go sour.

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Re: Opiates [Re: ezKiel]
    #98495 - 07/30/08 09:48 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

ezKiel said:
20 questions (well just 4)

How long have you been moderating?

How many mg's did you start with of OC or vic? 

how often do you use it?

how much more did you increase your dose?



I have been using opiates for almost 3 years now.

I don't use OC it is way too pricey I usually get methadone heroin and opium along with the weak mood enhancer opiates like: codiene and hydrocodone:thumbdown:.

I dont really keep track but yes I have upped doses before with all of them.

remember moderation is key, opiates are not everyday drugs they are not even every weekend drugs these are the drugs you should really take the reputation into consideration they will get you if you don't watch yourself.

enjoy opiates once in while for special occasions.

BTW

anytime I start to fiend or have withdrawal symptoms for a drug I stop and pick up later on down the road and thats it I avoided problems with coke, opiates, benzos and alcohol that way. All of which I still use on occasion......self control.

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Re: Opiates [Re: Agent00]
    #98498 - 07/30/08 09:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Live I've been saying - we need an Opiates Forum on this site.

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Re: Opiates [Re: andyistic]
    #98501 - 07/30/08 09:50 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

yes indeed, andy

and a news forum!

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Re: Opiates [Re: andyistic]
    #98512 - 07/30/08 09:56 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

4 sure if people were informed about proper responsible opiate use I would think there wouldn't be as many junkies, because they are going to use either way and dont understand that even if they only use heroin everyday for a week or two it can be a bitch to quit.

plus since we are drug users people might take our word seriously instead of just brushing it aside like they do the media and school dare programs.

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Re: Opiates [Re: Agent00]
    #98538 - 07/30/08 10:09 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I say we campaign for it in the appropriate avenues (the Forum Request thread, PM's to admins, etc.).

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Re: Opiates [Re: Tangerines]
    #98564 - 07/30/08 10:30 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Tangerines said:
Wow you people are fucking retarded.




I think you meant uninformed.

If I were retarded I wouldn't ask any question and chomp down a few 80's.

And I've never heard of OC being called hillbilly heroin. But I'm pretty far from the south.



Care to point out the key differences (dosage and effects) between hydro, OC, H. I've been on morph twice in my life and both times administrated by a doctor.

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Re: Opiates [Re: ltd]
    #98578 - 07/30/08 10:39 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Yes indeed dan.

and a porn forum!

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Re: Opiates [Re: highasfuck]
    #98593 - 07/30/08 10:46 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I don't see the porn forum doing much outside of our existing jailbait.

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Re: Opiates [Re: andyistic]
    #98669 - 07/30/08 11:22 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

ive had freinds whove tried heroin and never really had a problem ocasionally doing it, and then ive had freinds whove tried it and fucked themselves over...like everyone else said its all about moderation and self control

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