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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: Doitagain]
    #159804 - 12/10/08 08:51 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

the way i see it if im gonna get addicted it doesnt matter what method i use, and if i'm not going to get addicted i might as well go all the way.


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: Doitagain]
    #159806 - 12/10/08 08:52 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

See, I was almost always alone. First and last time I shot up I was alone. :shrug:

Maybe I just hate sharing. :smirk:


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: yellownotepad]
    #159808 - 12/10/08 08:52 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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the way i see it if im gonna get addicted it doesnt matter what method i use, and if i'm not going to get addicted i might as well go all the way.



the way you see it is wrong.  For many people the needle is what turns them from casual use into being a full blown junkie.


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: Doitagain]
    #159810 - 12/10/08 08:54 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

so then what happens if you shoot it from day 1


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: Tangerines]
    #159812 - 12/10/08 08:54 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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See, I was almost always alone. First and last time I shot up I was alone. :shrug:

Maybe I just hate sharing. :smirk:



for me its usually been a group of people throwing in for it, so we all do it together.


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: yellownotepad]
    #159813 - 12/10/08 08:55 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

not to mention maybe people who move to a needle were already stepping up because they are already on the path to junkieism.  correlation does not prove causation.


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: yellownotepad]
    #159814 - 12/10/08 08:56 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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so then what happens if you shoot it from day 1



i dunno, but the likelihood of you becoming addicted is increased.  Not saying you necessarily will but its really not a good idea. especially your first time, you'll probably get way sick.


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: yellownotepad]
    #159816 - 12/10/08 08:57 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Yellow. In my personal experience, using the needle made me 100x worse of a fiend. Just don't do it seriously. Take it from someone who has been there and still has the scars on his arm to prove it...


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: yellownotepad]
    #159817 - 12/10/08 08:58 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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not to mention maybe people who move to a needle were already stepping up because they are already on the path to junkieism.  correlation does not prove causation.



maybe they were already on that path, but shooting up accellerates the process.  Ask tangerines if he thinks its a good idea for u to shoot up your first time.


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: yellownotepad]
    #159819 - 12/10/08 08:59 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Yea, if you were to shoot up your FIRST time that is retarded.  If you are by yourself you'll probably kill yourself...


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: Doitagain]
    #159820 - 12/10/08 08:59 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

ive used a needle


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: ezKiel]
    #159821 - 12/10/08 08:59 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Just so u know I know people who are assholes without either and are cool on, But on the other hand the same can be said in reverse some arent assholes until they use.
So I guess its true drugs affect some diferent than others.




That's kind of the picture I'm getting here. I could look at statistics but they are too impersonal and don't reflect how a person like me would be affected.

And this board is too small a sample.

But at the same time I have learned alot by just watching the way certain people act around here.


Granted some are born assholes the underlying theme is that everyone reacts differently to drugs and if your different than most people you will have a harder time figuring out how it will afect you. And thats why this thread has been a clusterfuck.


 

Good u get that picture I myself have lost alot of friend to opiates, h, and cocane they arent for everyone.

So make yr choices carefully right.


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: Doitagain]
    #159822 - 12/10/08 09:00 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

enlighten me then. to me its like saying vaping heady nugs will make you more of a pothead than smoking stress.


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: yellownotepad]
    #159823 - 12/10/08 09:00 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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correlation does not prove causation.




I hate it when people say this like the correlation is now irrelevant becuase it doesn't prove causation.


If 100 people eat something and die. I sure as hell won't at what they were. Even if it is only correlation. It's smart.


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: ezKiel]
    #159824 - 12/10/08 09:02 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

but in this case needle use and addiction are not obviously causal when there are many other obvious hypothesis to the correlation that seem very possible.

im not trying to say i'm right, i'm just trying to say that it isnt a sure thing.


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: yellownotepad]
    #159825 - 12/10/08 09:03 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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enlighten me then. to me its like saying vaping heady nugs will make you more of a pothead than smoking stress.



that's because the way your mind works when you are unfamiliar with something is to use something you are familiar with as a model for what you aren't, but the comparison is not valid.


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: ezKiel]
    #159826 - 12/10/08 09:03 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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correlation does not prove causation.




I hate it when people say this like the correlation is now irrelevant becuase it doesn't prove causation.


If 100 people eat something and die. I sure as hell won't at what they were. Even if it is only correlation. It's smart.




You know of the study:

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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: yellownotepad]
    #159827 - 12/10/08 09:03 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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enlighten me then. to me its like saying vaping heady nugs will make you more of a pothead than smoking stress.


 

Dude I dont agree with that because vaping seems to make my weed last longer and I seem to get higher. But I think thats in my head but works for now.


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: yellownotepad]
    #159828 - 12/10/08 09:04 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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enlighten me then. to me its like saying vaping heady nugs will make you more of a pothead than smoking stress.




As I understand heroin satisfaction level is constantly pushed back.


I can be satisfied off a few bowls of heady nugs even if I'm not more blitzed than the previous time I smoked.
Sometimes it's nice to have a functional high. For hairon some people need that 'feeling' and a milder effect isn't good enough.


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Re: Opiate Users vs Potheads [Re: wowitch420]
    #159830 - 12/10/08 09:06 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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ive used a needle



i know people who have used the needle and don't use it regularly and aren't fiends.  But for those who are the needle makes them so much more of a fiend.


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