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 Deadkndys420
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 Deficiency? 
#710889 - 02/01/14 09:16 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Noticed these brown/orange spots yesterday. I also topped them a day or two ago.
I flushed the soil a little bit to be on the safe side.
  
Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones? seed
2. How old are your plants? 1 month old
3. How tall are your plants? 6-7 inches
4. What size containers are they planted in? 1 in a 9in x 8in container the other in a 12 quart container.
5. What is your soil mix?FFOF
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?About every 5 days until the water is saturated.
7. What is the pH of your water?7
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?none
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights") 400w aircooled mh
11. How close are your lights to the plants?1 foot 3 inches.
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? 4 square feet
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space? 81 degrees with 23 percent humidity
14. What is the pH of the soil? 6.7ish
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?no
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Hawksresurrection
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Why are your plants wet? Are you getting good airflow in there? Were they drooping like that before you took the clones?
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Deadkndys420
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There wet because I had just flushed the soil when I took the pic.
And yes my airflow is pretty good I have a tower fan about a foot or so away.
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Hawksresurrection
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So have they been drooping the whole time?
How much did you flush? This whole flushing just a little is a waste of time. You either flush or you don't. And careful when you do it, you shouldn't be getting the plant wet when flushing.
Have the leaves bee getting water on them at any other times?
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Deadkndys420
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Yes they have been drooping before i flushed them.
I flushed one with about 24 quarts and the other with about the same.
This was the only time the leaves got wet.
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Deadkndys420
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Hawksresurrection
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Sorry I'm not here for your beck and call dude.
Were they drooping before the cloning though, not just the flush.
I'm not real sure what going on with them. I would really let the soil dry out though.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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 budgrowerwannabe
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hawksapprentice said:
Sorry I'm not here for your beck and call dude.
Were they drooping before the cloning though, not just the flush.
I'm not real sure what going on with them. I would really let the soil dry out though.
your at mine! 
Y is your ph 7 ? I run my PH at 6.5 plain and with nutes.
There was a time my pen was off and I was given them that high ph level and started fucking shit up.
My 2 cents
Edited by budgrowerwannabe (02/02/14 04:33 PM)
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Deadkndys420
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They aren't clones they are from seed. And Yes they were drooping before I flushed them.
Here is how they look today.
   
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Mrshroom
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how long have they been wilting for? what was the last thing you did to the plants before they started to wilt? it says that your temp is around 81 , has the temp spiked at all that could be shocking the plant from being alot warmer then its used to?
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Deficiency? [Re: Mrshroom]
#711142 - 02/02/14 11:39 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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They're toast dude. And I have no clue why this happened. Where we're the seeds from?
Also if plants aren't looking healthy, don't take clones from them dude.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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budgrowerwannabe
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dam man ! Those were your last maneaters? That sucks
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Hawksresurrection
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Deadkndys420
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budgrowerwannabe said:
dam man ! Those were your last maneaters? That sucks
Pretty much. All I have is one left that I didn't top and it looks very healthy. Just some of those spots on one leaf.
hawksapprentice said:
They're toast dude. And I have no clue why this happened. Where we're the seeds from?
Damn that is something I didn't want to hear. Oh well At least I still have one more.
And they were Maneaters.
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budgrowerwannabe
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Can we get a pic of the heathly one ?
So you don't lose that strain!
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Deadkndys420
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Worst case scenario this turns out to be a male and I cross it with an OG kush.
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Hawksresurrection
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That would be a fine idea.
You should contact mag and let him know what happened. He'll probably hook you up.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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Deadkndys420
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I might just do that.
Should I be concerned that the top four leaves are turning a lighter green?
Noticed this about a day ago.
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Hawksresurrection
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I'd be very concerned with the way that is looking. Are you sure your pH is correct? I don't have my book on me right now, and I wont be back at my place until tomorrow afternoon/night. Hopefully someone can chime in.
That looks really familiar, but I can't recall what it is.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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Deadkndys420
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Well my PH meter isn't the best but it's reading 6.7.
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Hawksresurrection
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When did you calibrate it last?
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Deadkndys420
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I'm not sure you can calibrate it or maybe it came pre-calibrated.
It's from Hyrdofarm nothing fancy.
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Hawksresurrection
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Digital? Give me the model number
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Hawksresurrection
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You're not using THIS are you?
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Deadkndys420
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yup that be it.
Haven't had the cash to spring for a good one. But this Friday I should be able to order a hanna.
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Hawksresurrection
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Are you using that for the water you water with?
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Deadkndys420
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Yes I've measured my water with it and it reads 7.0 (for the record I've tested my water with a tablet ph tester and it read 7.0 as well,this was maybe 4 months ago).and I use tap water.
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Hawksresurrection
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Ok. Well it's not really designed for that, but seems to be working for it.
You really should get the Jorge book. It has a really good section on things like you are experiencing. Mines packed up. I know that I've seen exactly what your plant looks like in the nutrient/deficiencies section.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Magash
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I'm gonna bet it's one of these two things.How wet has the soil been? The plants look almost as if the roots are rotting or something is wrong with them and the plant is having a hard time getting water to the leaves.
or the one I think it is.
You got a hot bag of FFOF cause if you read up on nitrogen overdose it actually will pull water from the plant causing major wilt. They look as if they are teetering on the edge of a full overfeeding.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Deficiency? [Re: Magash]
#711370 - 02/03/14 08:33 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was leaning towards the watering thing when I saw how droopy they were.
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Deadkndys420
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Re: Deficiency? [Re: Magash]
#711375 - 02/03/14 08:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Magash said:
I'm gonna bet it's one of these two things.How wet has the soil been? The plants look almost as if the roots are rotting or something is wrong with them and the plant is having a hard time getting water to the leaves.
Well I flushed them a day or so ago when I first noticed the spots so the soil is pretty moist. The last time I watered them before that was the day I transplanted them so 5 days.
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Magash
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Really at this point you already flushed them so all you can do is wait them out.
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phychotron
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Re: Deficiency? [Re: Magash]
#711540 - 02/04/14 05:46 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Immobile nutrient (Ca, B, Cl, Co, Cu, Fe, Mn, Mo,Se, Si, S) deficiencies show up on new growth.
Mobile nutrients (N,P,K, Mg, Zn)on old.
The picture has that phosphorous deficiency type of damage but not so much the color, but that could be to multiple problems.
Usually a sign of pH out of range causing lock out issues. I was taking this last batch of clones and didn't plant them right away and let them go in the cloner with no nutrients just silica and rooting hormone. They started to grow but looked just like that.
Guaranteed your soil is jacked up somehow and I think they need food, the leaf isn't showing signs of burn except for maybe those random spots, but the tips all look fine. I'd try a light feed and see if things improve, you've already flushed, a light feed would give you an idea which way your headed.
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Deadkndys420
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Re: Deficiency? [Re: phychotron]
#712954 - 02/08/14 10:56 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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well the two fan leaves appear to be getting darker. As for the other two they remained the same with some of the leaves getting darker.
It seems to be 'stalled' as the new growth has not been growing or it is very slowly.
Also I didn't feed them yet as I was very weary to do so. I might next time I water in a day or so.
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