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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: Magash]
    #709897 - 01/25/14 11:27 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Funny thing. I had a grower from around my area tell me to put regular grain sugar in my water when I water and it will sweeten the taste of my plants. I know guys use molasses sometimes, but I highly doubt regular kitchen sugar will have the same effect.lol.





Adding raw carbohydrates isn't to sweeten the flavor.  It's to help bulk the plant up.  Carbs are a base building block for plants.



He meant in the way of the taste of the buds. Anything that's vegan or whatever I just kind of ignore. The grow shop guys recommended FloraBlend to me and said it was like steroids for plants. Huge pile of BS. Its ok stuff, but I don't see anything different it does for the plants that the main nutes don't already do.

When you're saying carbs, that's like the blackstrap molasses right? Grandma Eggys I think right?





I know what he was saying, Products like sweet try and play on the same idea.  And straight sugar like he was talking about is just simple carbohydrates.  I answered with full understanding of what he was getting across.

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Budswell was another joke of a product they tried to turn me onto.





I remember that crap I think it's still around. They had a powdered version that was just as much of a ripoff. Mostly dirt with some earthworm castings and almost no guano at all. There was a vegetative version called super tea mix also.

:happyweed:





Yeah, pure shit.  The owner of the grow shop was trying to tell me that it would just make your plants stink to high heaven.  What a load of bullshit.


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #709907 - 01/26/14 12:36 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Damn maybe he wasn't crazy, lol. Thanks for clearing that up for me Hawk! So straight sugar is a decent idea?


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: TribalSeed] * 3
    #709908 - 01/26/14 12:38 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

No it's not.  Black Strap Molasses is a good idea.


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #709911 - 01/26/14 01:28 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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No it's not.  Black Strap Molasses is a good idea.



Cool thanks for the tip Hawk!
Why so sad today? lol.
Got a few fans on the site it seems.


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: TribalSeed]
    #709912 - 01/26/14 01:34 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

What do you mean man?


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #709916 - 01/26/14 05:18 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Why so sad today?




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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: P-O]
    #709918 - 01/26/14 06:59 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I said what do you mean :kingcrankey:


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #709970 - 01/26/14 10:08 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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I said what do you mean :kingcrankey:



Sheesh Nothing Cranky.lol.
That's why you're cool.

As Mag says. JOKE! . lol.

We love you hawk. Group HUG!!!!


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: TribalSeed]
    #709973 - 01/26/14 10:42 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

NEVER :megacrankey:

I don't like stinky hippies :loldongs:


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #709976 - 01/26/14 11:07 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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NEVER :megacrankey:

I don't like stinky hippies :loldongs:



Man I ain't stinky I had a shower like....wait....what's today? Sunday, right? Well I had a shower on sunday, but it wasn't today.

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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: TribalSeed]
    #710524 - 01/30/14 12:49 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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No it's not.  Black Strap Molasses is a good idea.



Cool thanks for the tip Hawk!
Why so sad today? lol.
Got a few fans on the site it seems.





Hawk is right. Black Strap Molasses is great because it contains a bunch of magnesium, potassium, phosphorus and occasionally sulfur along with a few other minerals that plants often lack. The carbs are important, but not the only selling point for molasses over plain sugar.


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #710552 - 01/30/14 02:43 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

How well does molasses work in hydro? I want to stop buying that expensive ass sweetener that comes in the lineup and work with something a little more basic...


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: Tank333]
    #710564 - 01/30/14 10:08 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Depends on the hydro setup, but I would be very cautious.


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #710567 - 01/30/14 10:47 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Why's that?


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: Tank333]
    #710605 - 01/30/14 02:06 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Well cannabis isn't the only thing that loves sugar. Bacteria and fungi will eat the shit out of it and multiply like mad cunts (and possibly produce harmful byproducts like ethanol in the process), so if your setup has sprayers of any kind or tiny regulator valves or even a diaphragm pump it could definitely clog and fuck it all up. It really depends on your setup but I haven't heard a lot of good results from using molasses in hydro.
I don't think you need it though, the plant makes sugar via photosynthesis so as long as you're feeding it appropriately and have grow lights it'll be fine.


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: Tank333]
    #710660 - 01/30/14 06:17 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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How well does molasses work in hydro? I want to stop buying that expensive ass sweetener that comes in the lineup and work with something a little more basic...



Don't put molasses in your hydro setup! I've seen bad things happen.

I used molasses for a while in soil and a friend saw this and figured, "It's working for him, I'll give it a shot." He was halfway through flowering in a hydro setup and needless to say it never made it the rest of the way.


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #710666 - 01/30/14 06:37 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Well cannabis isn't the only thing that loves sugar. Bacteria and fungi will eat the shit out of it and multiply like mad cunts (and possibly produce harmful byproducts like ethanol in the process), so if your setup has sprayers of any kind or tiny regulator valves or even a diaphragm pump it could definitely clog and fuck it all up. It really depends on your setup but I haven't heard a lot of good results from using molasses in hydro.
I don't think you need it though, the plant makes sugar via photosynthesis so as long as you're feeding it appropriately and have grow lights it'll be fine.




M'kay... Well, I actually use molasses to feed the microbes in my foliar and root drench. I use EWC, alfalfa meal, molasses and the foliar and root packs from OGbiowar's line of beneficials. It's produced by one of the moderators at THCfarmer.com, and its supposed to be the most concentrated source of beneficial microbes available. There's lots of people who've used his recipe with great success, hydro and soil... I've been using it for about three weeks, and I'm liking the results... It leaves less gunk behind than the last stuff I used for beneficials. That crap left floaties in my rez all the time. Thank god I don't have any little sprayers or drippers or anything...


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: Tank333]
    #710675 - 01/30/14 07:13 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

So the molasses is a good idea, but not essentially needed if you have adequate nutrients and a good light setup?
The reason I ask is because I am about to start flowering for the first time and I want to make sure I have what I need before I start.
I agree the Sweet type of nutes are just expensive. I don't wanna buy shit I don't need, like I did with the calmag. lol.


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: TribalSeed]
    #710789 - 01/31/14 03:45 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I had no issues without using it, but I have noticed improvement since using molasses with every water.


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Re: For Soil Growers, WTF to do with water runoff?????? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #710881 - 02/01/14 09:08 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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I like the second way. I think it gives the soil time to really get wet. I grow in bags and if I just water till run off it just runs out the easiest way. When I go to put it back it would be way to light. Meaning not watered enough. So I now water a little at a time till I see run off. I catch the first couple drops of run off to see the Ph of my soil.

Im like Res. I water over a Rubbermaid with a bread grate:thumbup: works great.  I start watering. Roll a joint. Then I check them give them more water! Now I sit back smoke the jammer!!  By that time I can put them back  under the lights but I still use the plastic trays:wellidunno: lol









In this pic I built a table with a drain like you were talking about so I didn't have to move them. It works but I still move my plants to the tub to get watered. The table would just let all the extra water run into a bucket.:bigjoint:








I took a pic of how I water for ya


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