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Got about 7g's to use
    #683184 - 08/26/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I have about 7g's to make something with.. give or take 2 grams though.

I dont want to smoke it and I dont want to make something complicated and waste it all cause I dont really know what I am doing.

Not a fan of BHO, so i'd like to steer away from that.  Unless its the absolute EASIEST, I just dont want to have an end product with freakin BHO in it, that would piss me off and be a waste. Plus, I dont have ANY tubes, torches, caps, etc.  Also, not a fan of ISO hash.


So I dont have any bags... What should I do with it?

Edited by PoloDown (08/26/13 07:01 PM)

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #683232 - 08/26/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Make a single brownie?

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: Mycophile]
    #683245 - 08/26/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

ya 7 gms is not alot.... u can do a iso oil for about $3.  iso + jar +coffee filters


ur not gonna get much of 7 gms..... make 7 fire crackers

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683249 - 08/26/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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make 7 fire crackers



This^

IME you want at least a half o to make hash even with ISO.

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #683271 - 08/27/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #683272 - 08/27/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

what iso hash.... it always comes out a oil or earwax at best for me.  we call it "black oil"

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683371 - 08/27/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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PositiveOutlook said:
make 7 fire crackers



This^

IME you want at least a half o to make hash even with ISO.



Quote:

PositiveOutlook said:
what iso hash.... it always comes out a oil or earwax at best for me.  we call it "black oil"




I realize its not very much, but the rest of the bud i have id rather smoke..

Well I might make firecrackers, but it wouldnt be 7 it would be more like 3-4 because I have bad absorption in my stomach when it comes to edibles so Id want them to be extra potent.

For the ISO hash... Is there an easier way to scrape that shit up?  I literally ruined a dinner plate trying to scrape it off with a razor blade, on top of that I barely even got any yield, the plate was left a green tint because I had to just leave it on there like freakin concrete.

EDIT: OH I JUST REMEMBERED I HAVE LIKE 3-7 MORE GRAMS OF TRIM I CAN USE TOO, SO 9-15 GRAMS TOTAL :crazy2::crazy2::crazy2:

Edited by PoloDown (08/27/13 11:18 AM)

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #683381 - 08/27/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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For the ISO hash... Is there an easier way to scrape that shit up?  I literally ruined a dinner plate trying to scrape it off with a razor blade, on top of that I barely even got any yield, the plate was left a green tint because I had to just leave it on there like freakin concrete.








use glass  brah... 




scape what u can.... then use rub rolling papers on the glass after to get the last bit

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683382 - 08/27/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Does the pyrex glass make it easier to scrape off? What is Rub rolling papers?

P.O you seem to know a good bit about ISO hash.. got any techs you can guide me to just for making it the best way?

Im tired of reading things that contradict one another

Edited by PoloDown (08/27/13 11:35 AM)

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #683383 - 08/27/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

ya it much easier...


and after u scrape every bit u can.  heat it up (use oven or hair dryer).... then grab a rolling paper and rub the inside of the paper all over the bottom of the glass (u may need a few papers)..... it will absorbs all the oil thats left over.  then put weed in those papers... and blast off.  and u get all the left over iso oil.

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683384 - 08/27/13 11:39 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Alright Ill try a pyrex dish then, ill have to go buy one though. I dont wanna borrow from a family member and give it back fucked up.

Do you have any tech/guides you could link me to?  The only ones i know of are Grass city which is probly pretty old.

So is ISO still my best option besides fire crackers?

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683385 - 08/27/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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P.O you seem to know a good bit about ISO hash.. got any techs you can guide me to just for making it the best way?

Im tired of reading things that contradict one another






ya i bit

we dont call it iso hash.... cuz ur not making hash... ur making a hash-oil.  so here we call it just "black oil"



1.go grab some iso today 70%-99%.  (pharmacy or farm store)
2.soak ur materials in a jar with iso. 
3mix/shake. 
4 strain with coffee filter into pyrex dish (use a round one if u wanna do a double boil, otherwise let it evap on a toaster oven or in sun or something)
5. repeat steps 2-4 if u want (i dont with trim )
6. make sure u get ALL the iso out of it..... best to heat/ mix /cool, do that a few times.... till it comes out a ear wax

scape up ... put ur oil in beer caps or viles.... then use rolling papers for last bit,


If u got any questions ask away.  ive done this many many times

Edited by P-O (08/27/13 06:14 PM)

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683386 - 08/27/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

the round ones are easyier for a double boiler (evap iso with water boiling under it)






BUT ITS HARDER TO SCAPE IT UP after (rounded sides)


edit: u prob dont need to buy a new one.... i use my wifes bake ware all the time.... just was it with clean iso after.... it does not wreck it at all

Edited by P-O (08/27/13 11:52 AM)

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683388 - 08/27/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

u dont need any tec's  ill walk u though it if u need.  by tonight u will be takin fat dabs and getting trashed

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683394 - 08/27/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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PositiveOutlook said:
Quote:

P.O you seem to know a good bit about ISO hash.. got any techs you can guide me to just for making it the best way?

Im tired of reading things that contradict one another






ya i have done at least 50 ISO OIL batches over the years....


we dont call it iso hash.... cuz ur not making hash... ur making a hash-oil.  so here we call it just "black oil"



1.go grab some iso today 70%-99%.  (pharmacy or farm store)
2.soak ur materials in a jar with iso. 
3mix/shake. 
4 strain with coffee filter into pyrex dish (use a round one if u wanna do a double boil, otherwise let it evap on a toaster oven or in sun or something)
5. repeat steps 2-4 if u want (i dont with trim )
6. make sure u get ALL the iso out of it..... best to heat/ mix /cool, do that a few times.... till it comes out a ear wax

scape up ... put ur oil in beer caps or viles.... then use rolling papers for last bit,


If u got any questions ask away.  ive done this many many times




Okay..so...  How long exactly do I let it soak in the jar full of ISO?  Ive heard 30 seconds, 1 minute, 5 minutes, 20 minutes...  When I did it I soaked it for about 60 seconds while shaking it.

I was only going to do 1 run MAYBE 2 runs at the most, I want quality and it depends on whats left over.

I dont have any round pyrex bowls, so I'll have to use a pyrex pan/dish.. When straining through coffee filters, should I use one coffee filter or more like 3-5 coffee filters?

Once its strained, do I have to let the ISO evaporate for 24 hours or is there a quicker way? Being that I'll be using a dish pan I cant really fit it into a pot and bowl water under it.  Am I going to be heating it up again after 24 hours and it letting it sit to evaporate again?

I'll probably have a few more questions once I get these answered :facepalm:

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683395 - 08/27/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

If you can OP use everclear. I hear it taste much better then ISO alcohol.

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #683396 - 08/27/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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If you can OP use everclear. I hear it taste much better then ISO alcohol.




I thought about it but Idk if the alcohol content is high enough vs 90% rubbing alcohol.

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #683399 - 08/27/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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PoloDown said:
Quote:

PositiveOutlook said:
Quote:

P.O you seem to know a good bit about ISO hash.. got any techs you can guide me to just for making it the best way?

Im tired of reading things that contradict one another






ya i have done at least 50 ISO OIL batches over the years....


we dont call it iso hash.... cuz ur not making hash... ur making a hash-oil.  so here we call it just "black oil"



1.go grab some iso today 70%-99%.  (pharmacy or farm store)
2.soak ur materials in a jar with iso. 
3mix/shake. 
4 strain with coffee filter into pyrex dish (use a round one if u wanna do a double boil, otherwise let it evap on a toaster oven or in sun or something)
5. repeat steps 2-4 if u want (i dont with trim )
6. make sure u get ALL the iso out of it..... best to heat/ mix /cool, do that a few times.... till it comes out a ear wax

scape up ... put ur oil in beer caps or viles.... then use rolling papers for last bit,


If u got any questions ask away.  ive done this many many times




Okay..so...  How long exactly do I let it soak in the jar full of ISO?  Ive heard 30 seconds, 1 minute, 5 minutes, 20 minutes...  When I did it I soaked it for about 60 seconds while shaking it.

I was only going to do 1 run MAYBE 2 runs at the most, I want quality and it depends on whats left over.

I dont have any round pyrex bowls, so I'll have to use a pyrex pan/dish.. When straining through coffee filters, should I use one coffee filter or more like 3-5 coffee filters?

Once its strained, do I have to let the ISO evaporate for 24 hours or is there a quicker way? Being that I'll be using a dish pan I cant really fit it into a pot and bowl water under it.  Am I going to be heating it up again after 24 hours and it letting it sit to evaporate again?

I'll probably have a few more questions once I get these answered :facepalm:






no problem man.... ask as many as you want.


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Okay..so...  How long exactly do I let it soak in the jar full of ISO?  Ive heard 30 seconds, 1 minute, 5 minutes, 20 minutes...  When I did it I soaked it for about 60 seconds while shaking it.




I usually let mine soak for 20-60mins (shaking every 5 mins).  (some people let it soak for days tho)

Quote:


I dont have any round pyrex bowls, so I'll have to use a pyrex pan/dish.. When straining through coffee filters, should I use one coffee filter or more like 3-5 coffee filters?





for years i figured if u use 3-5 filters ur oil will be better..... i was wrong.  One filter is all u need.  anything that is small enough to pass through one filter will also pass through 5 filters.  so just use one



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Once its strained, do I have to let the ISO evaporate for 24 hours or is there a quicker way? Being that I'll be using a dish pan I cant really fit it into a pot and bowl water under it.  Am I going to be heating it up again after 24 hours and it letting it sit to evaporate again?






ya its hard to do double boil with dish pan.... so u can sit it in the sun to quicken it.  or put it on top of a toaster over while its on .  or u can wet a towel and use one of those pancake cooker things and use that.  basically  any way u can heat it (slowly) without fire is gonna speed it up.... i perfer using a toaster oven.... turn it on for a hour... then let it cool ... repeat till its a wax

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683404 - 08/27/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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I usually let mine soak for 20-60mins (shaking every 5 mins).  (some people let it soak for days tho




Okay.. I hear the longer it sits the lower the quality you have, but hearing this from you makes me think otherwise... SO I am going to let mine sit for like 30-45 minutes before I strain it.

Quote:

for years i figured if u use 3-5 filters ur oil will be better..... i was wrong.  One filter is all u need.  anything that is small enough to pass through one filter will also pass through 5 filters.  so just use one




Alright, so I'll just run it all through one coffee filter, one time. Sounds easy enough.

Quote:

ya its hard to do double boil with dish pan.... so u can sit it in the sun to quicken it.  or put it on top of a toaster over while its on .  or u can wet a towel and use one of those pancake cooker things and use that.  basically  any way u can heat it (slowly) without fire is gonna speed it up.... i perfer using a toaster oven.... turn it on for a hour... then let it cool ... repeat till its a wax




If I put it outside, will it turn to a waxy substance once the ISO is all gone?  About how long should I let it sit in the sun at once, since UV destroys the trichomes?  Once it gets waxy do I bring it to cool and then repeat this again outside for a certain amount of time?

I just want to make sure I have ALL the ISO out of the oil before I do anything, I want to do all this within hours but it sounds like I'll have to take a day or 2 out for the finished product which will be hard with my schedule but I can manage it.

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #683405 - 08/27/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Uv destroys trichomes?  weird.... ive only used sun a few times... usually we heat with a toaster oven or double boiler .  but i have used to sun to evap before

Quote:

Once it gets waxy do I bring it to cool and then repeat this again outside for a certain amount of time?





ya once all iso is evap'd.... id bring it in.... mix it up good.... scrap it all in one pile... then reheat it.

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683407 - 08/27/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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Uv destroys trichomes?  weird.... ive only used sun a few times... usually we heat with a toaster oven or double boiler .  but i have used to sun to evap before

Quote:

Once it gets waxy do I bring it to cool and then repeat this again outside for a certain amount of time?





ya once all iso is evap'd.... id bring it in.... mix it up good.... scrap it all in one pile... then reheat it.




Well I just have read how UV can begin to degrade your weed ( trichomes ).

I think I might pull the toaster out of the garage storage and use that then. When its cool I scrape and mix then reheat again, correct?  About how hot ( temperature ) does it sit at for an hour and how many times do you do this until the ISO is evaped?

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #683409 - 08/27/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

all depends on how much iso u use.... i only do big batches...  (i buy MASSIVE jugs of iso from farm stores for $100 each).    so my batches are much bigger then a 10 gram batch..... urs might only need 20 mins...  ive done batches that took 5 days to evap.



oh ya.... if u put a fan on it, it evaps quicker  ( u could prob evap JUST with a fan if ur in no hurry ).    I used to blow on the top while it was heating to speeding the process.... me and friends would take turns... both commenting that we feel fucked up after  (prob from breathing in the pure alcohol vapours )


temp:  hot enough that the top of the toaster oven is hot  (but not too hot or it might burn ur oil if its pretty much evaporated )

Edited by P-O (08/27/13 12:41 PM)

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683410 - 08/27/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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all depends on how much iso u use.... i only do big batches...  (i buy MASSIVE jugs of iso from farm stores for $100 each).    so my batches are much bigger then a 10 gram batch..... urs might only need 20 mins...  ive done batches that took 5 days to evap.



oh ya.... if u put a fan on it, it evaps quicker  ( u could prob evap JUST with a fan if ur in no hurry ).    I used to blow on the top while it was heating to speeding the process.... me and friends would take turns... both commenting that we feel fucked up after  (prob from breathing in the pure alcohol vapours )


temp:  hot enough that the top of the toaster oven is hot  (but not too hot or it might burn ur oil if its pretty much evaporated )




Hahaha yeah Im not near that size of a batch.  If it only took 20 minutes thatd be awesome.. So I'll place it on top of the toaster oven and I'll also put a osculating fan blowing over it.  That should speed it up.  Hopefully not more then an hour or two.

If at any point i have to stop and leave the house for a few hours or all night... Is that going to affect my final product potency letting it cool and sit?

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #683411 - 08/27/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

ya it will be fine.... if u gotta leave.  leave the fan going... all its doin is evaping it for u.




Ive seen 5L of iso ONLY evap'd with a fan.  Fucking STINKS up the whole neighbourhood



id keep heating it till all the liquid is gone (not stopping every hour).... the heating/mixing/cooling/etc is more how to purge it.... how to get all the left over iso that left over in the product. 

Edited by P-O (08/27/13 12:48 PM)

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683412 - 08/27/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Does it really stink up that bad?  I can't have my house wreaking like crazy its up for sale right now, I thought generally that ISO didnt smell toooo bad.

Edited by PoloDown (08/27/13 12:48 PM)

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683413 - 08/27/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

the black oil thats sold here is $20 a gm.  its usually very runny (full of iso still).  sometimes its cutt with vasoline even.  u get sick if u smoke it for too many days....


so no matter how bad u do..... it will still be better then the oil thats sold on the streets :thumbup:


Quote:

Does it really stink up that bad?  I can't have my house wreaking like crazy its up for sale right now, I thought generally that ISO didnt smell toooo bad.





while ur evaping it, it does smell strong of alcohol .... but when its cooked down its better

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683414 - 08/27/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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the black oil thats sold here is $20 a gm.  its usually very runny (full of iso still).  sometimes its cutt with vasoline even.  u get sick if u smoke it for too many days....


so no matter how bad u do..... it will still be better then the oil thats sold on the streets :thumbup:


Quote:

Does it really stink up that bad?  I can't have my house wreaking like crazy its up for sale right now, I thought generally that ISO didnt smell toooo bad.





while ur evaping it, it does smell strong of alcohol .... but when its cooked down its better





Well, thats good to know.. My first/last attempt at ISO barely yielded anything I could even smoke. I think I topped like 2 bowls MAX.  I'm gonna give it a try man.. Do you have a KiK or anything?  I could send final pics

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #683415 - 08/27/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

ya i do... pm me ur kik.  ill add u

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683416 - 08/27/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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ya i do... pm me ur kik.  ill add u




Sounds good, thanks for all the info PO, If not today im gonna try it this week for sure.

I'll pm you my kik asap

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #683466 - 08/27/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Turns out I actually have 24.5 grams of TRIM and 8.5 grams of BUD.


WAyyy more then i thought I had.. I guess ill still make ISO though!

i have a tiny ass grinder, should I be grinding this trim up?? I was definitely gonna grind up the bud

Edited by PoloDown (08/27/13 05:00 PM)

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #683468 - 08/27/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

break up the bud for sure... id just hand crush the trim..... u dont want any powder... it will go through the screen

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683469 - 08/27/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

FUCKING PLUG THE GRAMS


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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: Sham87]
    #683471 - 08/27/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

shammy  :spank:

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683481 - 08/27/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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sometimes its cutt with vasoline even.



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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #683482 - 08/27/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

your telling me dude... :facepalm3: x1000

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683484 - 08/27/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

with 30 gms u will have enough to do 1 bho run.  (better product / less yeild / easier to evap and purge )

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683524 - 08/27/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I'd be so pissed about Vaseline. Fuck that sounds disgusting.

I don't have any bho, torch,  pipe/tube, caps for the tube.

About how much would all that cost me for everything? And how much would 30grams yield me with BHO?  I want to do whichever is more worth it

And wtf is evap/purge? Idk where to begin for either one with BHO :dawerp:

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #683537 - 08/27/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

1. buy and clean small orange juice drink
2. poke 1 hole in bottom, and a few in cap
3.put Frozen herbs inside
4. spray full can into bottom hole. (use 2 if u want)
5.  butane sprays though coffee filter, then holes
6. collect butane in glass dish.
7. evaporate by puttin in warm bath
8. takes hour to get most butane out.
9. "purge" by heating/mixing/cooling
10. get high


a oz should give u 3-6 gms


i made this outta a glass waterbottle






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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683549 - 08/27/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

How long do you purge for?

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    #683571 - 08/27/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

2days - 3 weeks ....  i dont have a quality vac so i need to heat and mix to purge

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683576 - 08/27/13 11:20 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

How do you know when it's done purging?

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    #683580 - 08/27/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

when u heat it it will bubble (butane escaping.)  So u know its pure when u can heat it and it does nothing but melt.... most people dont purge it completely. takes too long.


I purge it till its hard as taffy :cool: .  My bho is SOOOOOO smooth.  yet 1-2 hoots and ur couch locked without a doubt

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    #683593 - 08/28/13 06:06 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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I just dont want to have an end product with freakin BHO in it,



Yeah I fucking hate BHO in my BHO.
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I usually let mine soak for 20-60mins (shaking every 5 mins).  (some people let it soak for days tho



Okay.. I hear the longer it sits the lower the quality you have, but hearing this from you makes me think otherwise... SO I am going to let mine sit for like 30-45 minutes before I strain it.



It depends on what kind of oil you want.
If you want the "black oil" then by all means let it sit for a half hour, but if you want at least a deep amber oil, even a golden oil, do multiple (No more than 3) quick (20-45 seconds), ice-cold washes. Keep your washes separate, or at least keep your 3rd wash out of your first 2.

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ya its hard to do double boil with dish pan.... so u can sit it in the sun to quicken it.  or put it on top of a toaster over while its on .  or u can wet a towel and use one of those pancake cooker things and use that.  basically  any way u can heat it (slowly) without fire is gonna speed it up.... i perfer using a toaster oven.... turn it on for a hour... then let it cool ... repeat till its a wax



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Sunlight can degrade cannabinoids. (Not the biggest issue though.)
Heating iso. alcohol over a source of very dry heat (A toaster oven), let alone the risk of a spark, will eventually turn out very bad.
I have no input on the wet towel on a pancake pan, other than I wouldn't do it.

IMO you should either fan evaporate directly out of an open window or exhaust fan, then finish off in a double-boiler setup while staying well-ventilated. (Very easy to do, just find a short, wide pot to boil water in, and get an 8"x8" pyrex pan to hold the iso. and oil.)
Or just double-boil it off from the get go, staying EXTREMELY well-ventilated because the iso. will evaporate very quickly and fill the room if you aren't prepared.


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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: resincoatedlungs]
    #683608 - 08/28/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

This is just starting to sound too complicated.

I literally don't have the time to be purging all at once if it is really time consuming but this sounds like the best way, im about to break down from the stress of time constraints already.  I WANT TO TRY IT THOUGH

Aren't plastic bottles extremely bad, like stripping it of BPA and everything?  I dont have a fancy diamond drill bit to drill a glass bottle either :frown:

Is it really going to take HOURS to get all the butane out?  I would definitely have to come back to it like the next day or some shit if thats the case.

If i am using a pyrex dish I dont have a warm bath to set the pan in to heat it up for evaporation.  Cant I directly heat it on top of the stove??????  Then keep directly heating it on the stove to purge it????????  How do I know when I am now purging and not evaporating anymore??


Now BHO seems the way to go but this is just flying over my head.


Resincoatedlungs - Now what you're saying is contradicting what Positive Outlook is saying.  Any reason why you dont agree with these methods?

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #683612 - 08/28/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Just smoke the bud then! You gotta shit or get off the pot dude.

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: Mycophile]
    #683616 - 08/28/13 10:46 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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Just smoke the bud then! You gotta shit or get off the pot dude.




Read my original posts, dude.

I dont want to smoke it, I have my other shit for that.

Plus - PO knows I have already at least broken it all down with my hands since I broke the grinder i was using.... BTW PO I went bought a different one haha its way better.

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    #683632 - 08/28/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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Cant I directly heat it on top of the stove?????? 




Definitely don't do that, especially if you have a gas stove, open flame = disaster. I just heat a pot of water up then take it outside and put the dish on there, then keep some more water boiling inside to replace it with when it cools down.

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: Mycophile]
    #683634 - 08/28/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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Cant I directly heat it on top of the stove?????? 




Definitely don't do that, especially if you have a gas stove, open flame = disaster. I just heat a pot of water up then take it outside and put the dish on there, then keep some more water boiling inside to replace it with when it cools down.




I dont have a gas stove, its just the regular one.

Like this


How effective is the pot of water under the dish?  My dish would be sitting on top of the pot, not down in it at all.  Its also in the 90's outside every day, does that help?  I originally planned on doing ALL of this inside, except for blasting BHO.

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #683637 - 08/28/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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This is just starting to sound too complicated.

I literally don't have the time to be purging all at once if it is really time consuming but this sounds like the best way, im about to break down from the stress of time constraints already.  I WANT TO TRY IT THOUGH

Aren't plastic bottles extremely bad, like stripping it of BPA and everything?  I dont have a fancy diamond drill bit to drill a glass bottle either :frown:

Is it really going to take HOURS to get all the butane out?  I would definitely have to come back to it like the next day or some shit if thats the case.

If i am using a pyrex dish I dont have a warm bath to set the pan in to heat it up for evaporation.  Cant I directly heat it on top of the stove??????  Then keep directly heating it on the stove to purge it????????  How do I know when I am now purging and not evaporating anymore??


Now BHO seems the way to go but this is just flying over my head.


Resincoatedlungs - Now what you're saying is contradicting what Positive Outlook is saying.  Any reason why you dont agree with these methods?





butane evaps VERY quick... it evaps with a lil warm water bath (in like 30-60 mins)

u just sit the dish in warm water (bath tub )

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Heating iso. alcohol over a source of very dry heat (A toaster oven), let alone the risk of a spark, will eventually turn out very bad.
I have no input on the wet towel on a pancake pan, other than I wouldn't do it.





and heating ur glass dish ON THE TOP of the toaster-oven on med is safe (not a toaster).  no sparks.  its not directly being heated.... its heated on the top of the toaster oven. 




and u dont want to evap directly on a glass stove.  thats alot of heat.... it could combust.  thats why i use top of toaster oven (it gets warm... not red hot)

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    #683638 - 08/28/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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It depends on what kind of oil you want.
If you want the "black oil" then by all means let it sit for a half hour, but if you want at least a deep amber oil, even a golden oil, do multiple (No more than 3) quick (20-45 seconds), ice-cold washes. Keep your washes separate, or at least keep your 3rd wash out of your first 2.





doing a quick 20 second wash is gonna get less plant material yes.... but if ur doing a small extraction then this is just gonna get u like 1/4 of the thc.... id rather it be darker and get 4x as much in the end especially if im only doing a small batch..... thats just me tho


if i want a golden oil.... ill do bho

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    #683640 - 08/28/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Polo:

Everyone does BHO/ISO/HASH different ways..... it all comes out smokeable in the end.

As long as ur safe and do it in a ventilated area you will be fine.

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683641 - 08/28/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I think I am just going to do BHO, guys.

How much does a torch and can of bho cost and how many cans for 30-32 grams?  My closest smoke shop is a bunch of terds waiting to rip you off.

Should I be going to home depot and buying a metal pipe and caps for it?  Or is it easier to just buy a drill bit there to drill through a glass bottle and use that?

I was going to go buy a real big VOSS water bottle, they are always glass.

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    #683642 - 08/28/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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Polo:

Everyone does BHO/ISO/HASH different ways..... it all comes out smokeable in the end.

As long as ur safe and do it in a ventilated area you will be fine.




Also good to know..  I appreciate the insight and info!

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #683643 - 08/28/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

buy diamond drill bit.  they are like $8.... dont use PVC or stainless steel for a tube. use glass or food grade plastic (glass FTW)



make sure to put tape where ur drilling the hole (come out cleaner)

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683644 - 08/28/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

buy 2 cans.  do them both back to back... let it all drip out....

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: P-O]
    #683646 - 08/28/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

okay cool..  Ill have to wait until Friday to do all this, probly wont start until about 3-4pm.  Do you think I could be done by 8 or 830?

and is it bad if all my stuff doesnt fully fill the VOSS glass bottle? it may be a little big

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    #683647 - 08/28/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

u can get most the butane out.... but there is no way it will be fully purged in a few hrs....


u can smoke it but its gonna be harsh

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    #683649 - 08/28/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

i was hoping to have it pretty much done by then and then on saturday try and finish it up for an hour or two.

also hoping the voss bottle isnt too big

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #683910 - 08/31/13 09:58 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Post a pic of ur cap brah

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    #683914 - 08/31/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Here ya go.. Thanks to PO for helpin me all day yesteday haha.


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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #684220 - 09/04/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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What was the final yield?


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    #684311 - 09/05/13 10:09 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

A little over 2 grams.

I had definitely hoped for more, but it was my first ever run.

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Re: Got about 7g's to use [Re: PoloDown]
    #684340 - 09/05/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Looks like you did just fine. :yesnod:
I couldn't dream of a yield like that with what we all have, if you were to do exactly the same thing but with the bud around here, you would have been lucky to get a gram.

This wouldn't work all that well if you were dabbing it, but I like kneading kief in with the oil to make it easier to handle, burns way better, and I don't smoke it all up as quickly. Was this your first oppurtunity to smoke oil?


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