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Repeat initiate budding
    #677444 - 07/09/13 05:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

My dad used to grow and I was talking to him about maybe growing for fun, and he was telling me that barely anyone he's met knows that when a plant buds you can trim off the buds and then drop the light cycle back down to 12 hour(I think) and re initiate budding, and can potentially trick the plant to grow new buds for years.

Is this something well known? I didn't find anything about it by searching.


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Re: Repeat initiate budding [Re: Midgetpawn]
    #677455 - 07/09/13 06:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

i've heard of people re-veg'n a plant, but i haven't seen what you're suggesting.  personally i would want to revert the plant and grow it to the size i desired and then  flower it again.


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Re: Repeat initiate budding [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #677456 - 07/09/13 06:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yea I don't even really know how to grow well, but the way he described it sounded like something everyone should do. He was saying you just trim them all off then change the light cycle back down or whatever and new buds grow everywhere

off-topic, but if you buy seeds from online do you need both male and female seeds/plants to get more seeds? btw does anyone know someplace to get seeds within the usa without getting a letter in the mail? I hate the idea of the package going through customs =/


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Re: Repeat initiate budding [Re: Midgetpawn]
    #677458 - 07/09/13 06:54 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Well your dad is kind of right. In order to start budding in the first place you turn the lights back to 12 hours so you can't move them back if they are already there.

What you would have to do is reveg the plant or revert to be exact then turn the lights back again. Now the reason people don't do it is that it takes longer then just starting new cuttings. The reason is cuttings can be ready to go into flowering without having to be reverted. In other-words out with the plants that just got harvested and in with new plants that are ready to start flowering immediately. The process of reverting a plant take several weeks.

You have to remember marijuana is a annual plant so after if flowers it wants to die. That is the reason for reverting the plant which tricks it into going threw the grow cycle again.

I could get more in depth on this but my getting long winded can get rather boring.


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Re: Repeat initiate budding [Re: Midgetpawn]
    #677459 - 07/09/13 06:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah he was definitely talking about re-vegging a plant.

If I understand it correctly:
Basically, after you trim the buds off the mature plant, make sure to leave a few leaves and change the lights back to 18/6, 20/4, or even 24/0 and wait until you get new growth.
Then put it back into 12/12 and flower as usual.

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off-topic, but if you buy seeds from online do you need both male and female seeds/plants to get more seeds?



If you want regular seeds, yes.
Or you could feminize seeds, and that takes at least 2 females, no males. Fairly complicated procedure, but doable.

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btw does anyone know someplace to get seeds within the usa without getting a letter in the mail? I hate the idea of the package going through customs =/



You'll be hard-pressed to find a U.S. based seed vendor. (Assuming that's where you're from, because seeds are illegal in the u.s.)

Unless you make friends with the right people, you're pretty much guaranteed to have to get seeds through customs.

EDIT: Well Magash beat me to it. :frown:


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Re: Repeat initiate budding [Re: resincoatedlungs]
    #677461 - 07/09/13 07:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If you want regular seeds, yes.
Or you could feminize seeds, and that takes at least 2 females, no males. Fairly complicated procedure, but doable.




You're almost right but it can be done with just one plant. You can make just one branch put out the feminized pollen and leave the rest of the plant normal. Then you can actually seed that plant with that pollen this allows you do seeds with just one plant. :wink:


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Re: Repeat initiate budding [Re: Magash]
    #677462 - 07/09/13 07:27 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Oops... my bad! :blush:
Good to know, though.
Now that I know that, I feel pretty much obligated to get some STS together now.:rolleyes:


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Re: Repeat initiate budding [Re: Magash]
    #677466 - 07/09/13 07:33 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Magash said:
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If you want regular seeds, yes.
Or you could feminize seeds, and that takes at least 2 females, no males. Fairly complicated procedure, but doable.




You're almost right but it can be done with just one plant. You can make just one branch put out the feminized pollen and leave the rest of the plant normal. Then you can actually seed that plant with that pollen this allows you do seeds with just one plant. :wink:


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i got a Q

how do you get feminized pollen from a female plant?

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Re: Repeat initiate budding [Re: scrapske]
    #677469 - 07/09/13 07:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Well whatever he was saying was suggesting to change the light cycle after clipping the buds to force the plant to bud again. I mean he was growing from like the 70s - early 2000s and may have developed his own timings that weren't the normally used lighting cycles. Don't know, I'll have to ask him.

You would think seeds would be more easily available in USA now that weed is legal in 2 states =/ I found a bunch of 25 year old seeds and tried to germinate them, but nothing happened. I'm guessing it's not a great idea to request to trade seeds for cube spores? =P

It's kind of strange that spores are legal while seeds aren't. stupid laws

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Magash said:
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If you want regular seeds, yes.
Or you could feminize seeds, and that takes at least 2 females, no males. Fairly complicated procedure, but doable.




You're almost right but it can be done with just one plant. You can make just one branch put out the feminized pollen and leave the rest of the plant normal. Then you can actually seed that plant with that pollen this allows you do seeds with just one plant. :wink:


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Interesting. If I ever get seeds I'll have to spend a couple weeks just reading through this forum


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Re: Repeat initiate budding [Re: scrapske]
    #677483 - 07/09/13 11:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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scrapske said:
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Magash said:
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If you want regular seeds, yes.
Or you could feminize seeds, and that takes at least 2 females, no males. Fairly complicated procedure, but doable.




You're almost right but it can be done with just one plant. You can make just one branch put out the feminized pollen and leave the rest of the plant normal. Then you can actually seed that plant with that pollen this allows you do seeds with just one plant. :wink:


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goodstuff!

i got a Q

how do you get feminized pollen from a female plant?

cheers





Ok, the difference between female and male plants is pretty much a hormone. They both have the same flowering hormone but the female has a extra hormone that tells the forming flower to form as a female flower. Now what sts, and colloidal silver do is attach themselves to the hormone that tells the plant to form a female flower and make it unusable by the plant.
So if you spray just one branch that branch won't be able to use the hormone. Since it can't use the hormone that tells the flower to form as a female then I but you figured out what happens. That branch will form male flowers.

Because male plants don't have this hormone it's impossible to do it in reverse or to make female flowers on a male plant so you could make all male seeds. Not that I've ever heard of a reason to do that.

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Re: Repeat initiate budding [Re: Magash]
    #677737 - 07/12/13 10:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Hm I guess it's kind of like when people take hormones to change sexes.


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Re: Repeat initiate budding [Re: Midgetpawn]
    #677768 - 07/12/13 02:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Not quite... The plant doesn't change sex per se.


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Re: Repeat initiate budding [Re: TomCollins]
    #678972 - 07/22/13 10:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I thought you put the plant back on a regular veg cycle, wait a couple weeks to a month to start vegging again


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