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Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back
    #655658 - 01/20/13 01:50 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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OXNARD, Calif. (KTLA) — An Oxnard teacher who was fired after her past as a porn actress was discovered by students lost her legal bid to regain her job.

Stacie Halas, a science teacher at Richard B. Haydock Intermediate School, was fired by the school board last April on the grounds that her role in pornography disrupted the classroom environment.

Halas appealed her firing before the Commission on Professional Competence.porn-teacher

On Tuesday, her attorney Richard Schwab said a three-judge panel unanimously decided the 32-year old was unfit for the classroom.

During a hearing last fall, Schwab had argued that Halas did not star in pornographic movies while teaching in any district.

He said Halas acted in them during an eight-month period from 2005 to 2006 because of financial duress.

Nitasha Sawhney, one of two lawyers representing the school district, said Halas repeatedly lied to school administrators about her acting career at the same time students were viewing the explicit videos.

“This case is about whether the students of the Oxnard School District are required to incorporate into their learning environment the choice Ms. Halas made to be a porn star,” Sawhney said.

The investigation began when students approached administrators at the school and told them they had seen a female teacher in a pornographic video.

Administrators tried to verify the students’ claims, but couldn’t because the school’s computers have filters on them that prevent access to sites featuring pornographic material, Superintendent Jeff Chancer said.

So administrators put out a memo to school staff, acknowledging the students’ claims but saying they were only unverified rumor.

That’s when some other teachers came forward and showed administrators the video on a cell phone, allowing them to tentatively confirm that the accused teacher appeared in the X-rated video.

Chancer showed the video to district attorneys and the accused teacher was then placed on leave by district officials, he said.

Chancer applauded the commission’s ruling.

Halas’ decision to “engage in pornography was incompatible with her responsibilities as a role model for students and would present an insurmountable, recurring disruption to our schools should she be allowed to remain as a teacher,” he said in a statement.







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Personally I think if she is a good teacher then who cares about what she did in the past.

What are you guys opinion on this subject?






Also if someone can find the vid of her feel free to post it.
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Re: Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #655659 - 01/20/13 01:58 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

She should absolutely not be able to get her job as a teacher back.


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back [Re: still beLIEve]
    #655660 - 01/20/13 02:03 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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still beLIEve said:
She should absolutely not be able to get her job as a teacher back.



Care to elaborate?


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Re: Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #655661 - 01/20/13 02:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I was starting to put how I felt in to my own words, however I think the last sentence/quote from the article that you quoted summed it up quite nicely.

Unfortunately, a change of heart/life doesn't always mean you are exempt from the repercussions of your previous life choices.


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back [Re: still beLIEve]
    #655666 - 01/20/13 04:31 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Unfortunately, a change of heart/life doesn't always mean you are exempt from the repercussions of your previous life choices.




I agree but how does this apply to the story? It's about her being fit to teach, and quite honestly, I don't see how she would lose her capabilities to adequately teach a classroom.

She didn't do anything illegal either, and she probably did it for money.

I mean if the fear is that she is not a good role model, because of the sexual nature of her past life  - then I have a hard time sympathizing with that logic, because I mean, I don't see what difference it will make if she's teaching or not. Students are still going to have lots of sex and they're going to think (right fully so) that sex is amazing, and they should do it whenever they can. On top of that, firing her will not change students access to sex. It's just as available.

So my question really is: what good will firing her do? What good will come out of it?


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Re: Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back [Re: TomCollins]
    #655668 - 01/20/13 05:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Well being a teacher puts that person in somewhat of a leadership role for the kids, a role that has no place being fllled by someone who has worked in the porn industry. I don't follow your logic - you said

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Spency said:

I mean if the fear is that she is not a good role model, because of the sexual nature of her past life  - then I have a hard time sympathizing with that logic, because I mean, I don't see what difference it will make if she's teaching or not.




And you're right, her history in porn will have absolutely zero impact in her ability to teach today. But that has nothing to do with the whole role model aspect, and that someone who was a porn star yesterday should not teach our children today.

Then there is also the class disruption part of it. This will be all the kids can talk about for some time, and it's not likely to be swept under the rug either. This is something kids will be talking about for god knows how long. How is she supposed to be a successful teacher  when all the kids are watching her porn on their iphones in class? How can she expect the kids to respect her after they've watched that? How do you think the parents of these children will feel about a porn star teaching their kids ("Whats next a whore? A drug dealer!")?

Do I think she's a bad person, or unintelligent because of this? Not at all. I just think because of the situation surrounding all this she will never be able to be an effective teacher again.


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back [Re: still beLIEve]
    #655669 - 01/20/13 06:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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still beLIEve said:
Then there is also the class disruption part of it. This will be all the kids can talk about for some time, and it's not likely to be swept under the rug either. This is something kids will be talking about for god knows how long. How is she supposed to be a successful teacher  when all the kids are watching her porn on their iphones in class? How can she expect the kids to respect her after they've watched that? How do you think the parents of these children will feel about a porn star teaching their kids ("Whats next a whore? A drug dealer!")?




Yeah, you're right actually... I mean what's next, convicts? Former Mexican cartel hit men? Jeff Bridges? God knows whats next!

How will the students ever be able to do their homework when all they can do is watch PORN with their teacher on their new iPhone 5s?!? I don't understand how students are supposed to not not learn.

And christ... those students will probably never show an ounce of respect for their teacher and that would tarnish the beautiful tradition American students have, of respecting their teacher to the utmost and not thinking about what it would be like to have sex with them - because no american student would do that (unless their gay!)

And god forbid, those youngin's actually go off and have sex, lots of sex, lots of drunken slutty orgy sex at those whore houses you guys call colleges.

But I know the American people will see the light and set things right, just as the founders AND GOD intended!

:borat:

Yet the question remains... what good will arise from destroying her life? Another way we could ask this question is "what is the BAD that is being prevented?"


Edited by TomCollins (01/20/13 06:12 AM)


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Re: Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back [Re: TomCollins]
    #655684 - 01/20/13 01:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The same thang happened here with Samantha Ardente...


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Ça m'a permis de visiter mon corps
Des inconnus vivent en roi chez moi
Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
J'ai perdu mon temps à gagner du temps
J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
Pour instant j'ai oublié mon nom
Harmonium - Pour un instant
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Re: Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back [Re: Manitou]
    #655787 - 01/21/13 01:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Its not like they only hire virgins to be teachers. Firing her for this is simply insane. This is a double standard for sure.


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Re: Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back [Re: Shiversblood]
    #655795 - 01/21/13 03:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Well imo if someone wants to be a teacher, its pretty sure they will check out their background, it would be quite ridiculous and unethical if they didn't fire her, its pretty nonsense to keep a teacher that their students can jerk off to... its just weird... If you wanna become a teacher, you gotta show the exemple to the kids...


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Pour un instant, j'ai respiré très fort
Ça m'a permis de visiter mon corps
Des inconnus vivent en roi chez moi
Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
J'ai perdu mon temps à gagner du temps
J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
Pour instant j'ai oublié mon nom
Harmonium - Pour un instant
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For pictures of my weed, go to the Québec Ganja! Thread (Newly updated 20/05/2015)


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Re: Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back [Re: Manitou]
    #655796 - 01/21/13 03:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah it would be pretty fucked up to have a teacher who you can see being sodomized with a couple key words and a click.


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Re: Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back [Re: Shiversblood]
    #655798 - 01/21/13 03:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Shiversblood said:
Its not like they only hire virgins to be teachers. Firing her for this is simply insane. This is a double standard for sure.




Its just not appropriate for a school teacher. College maybe.


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Re: Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back [Re: drawde]
    #655800 - 01/21/13 03:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Exactly Drawde, even for college I still don't think its appropriate

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Pour un instant, j'ai respiré très fort
Ça m'a permis de visiter mon corps
Des inconnus vivent en roi chez moi
Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
J'ai perdu mon temps à gagner du temps
J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
Pour instant j'ai oublié mon nom
Harmonium - Pour un instant
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For pictures of my weed, go to the Québec Ganja! Thread (Newly updated 20/05/2015)


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Re: Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back [Re: Manitou]
    #655803 - 01/21/13 03:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Gaskelort said:
Exactly Drawde,  for college I would think its appropriate

:sambergfive:





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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.

-niteowl


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Re: Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #655807 - 01/21/13 04:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

:ffffuuu:


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Pour un instant, j'ai respiré très fort
Ça m'a permis de visiter mon corps
Des inconnus vivent en roi chez moi
Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
J'ai perdu mon temps à gagner du temps
J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
Pour instant j'ai oublié mon nom
Harmonium - Pour un instant
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For pictures of my weed, go to the Québec Ganja! Thread (Newly updated 20/05/2015)


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Re: Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back [Re: Manitou]
    #655823 - 01/21/13 07:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, i can see it as a little sketchy if she was a kindergarden teacher or elementary. but college, have at it. there are hot professors in college everywhere, you should be able to see at least one naked at some point :bigyesnod:


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Re: Teacher With Porn Past Loses Bid to Get Job Back [Re: Manitou]
    #655899 - 01/22/13 10:18 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Gaskelort said:
its pretty nonsense to keep a teacher that their students can jerk off to...




It might also be this worst-case-slippery-slope imagination that is actually more of a problem in this scenario than a teachers past life.

It's not an issue of access to content, and it certainly isn't an issue of knowledge at that age. And surely, there must be some inkling of responsibility on the parents.

I do not follow the logic of how removing her will make students watch porn less or jerk off less in their own time - nor do I follow how removing her will prevent students from masturbating to their teachers. :tongue:

I mean I get it, you don't feel good about your kid jerking off to this woman at home, and then going to school the next day to give her an apple.

It's a bit of a creepy image, but I think the problem is at home. I think child-proofing your society to compensate will make things worse.

Really, there is no support for the case your making. It's very easy to agree with you, but this is your fantasy man! And just because a few other people share that same fantasy does not make it valid.

It seems intuitive, but that does not mean it has any practical sense behind it. Science has taught us this same exact lesson, over and over for millennia.

Now please, don't take me wrong - I'm not dismissing what you say as something that could never happen, but please see there is actually nothing to make this prediction on.

This is an extremely novel situation and I think it's wrong to make assumptions in the heat of the scandal.

IMO, the relevant qualitative research literature should have been reviewed in this case. Then again, U.S. judicial and political officials are not well known for their literature reviews.

Just my 2 cents...


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Ok so let me bring you idiots up to speed.
The admins are tired of this shitfest being made the joke of the weed community on the Internet.


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