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OfflineOrgoneConclusion
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My 3w Grow
    #596929 - 11/14/11 10:39 PM (5 years, 28 days ago)

I see so many baby plants vegged under huge lights or like 5-6 or more 23w CLFs, when that is hardly necessary. And then the same people talk about GPW... :rolleyes:

People did not believe the huge plant I vegged with a single 23w CFL, when this is way more impressive.

Here is my widdle 8" X 8" A-Train vegged under a single 3w cool white LED. Yes, one 3W light with nothing else. The hull wouldn't come off and it was nearly dead and I was ready to toss it, but it made a full recovery and is a happy camper. :cool:



Think I am lying? A standard CFL radiates in almost a 360 degree radius. This is a 30 degree LED thus the beam is concentrated 12 times and since it has 50% more LPW, that is 18 times the concentration of a comparable CFL.

Will probably flip in one more week. I am going to attempt to flower with an absolute minimum of watts and still get an acceptable harvest to see what is possible. I might have to go as high as 18w. :whoa:



Edited by OrgoneConclusion (11/14/11 10:51 PM)


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #596933 - 11/14/11 10:44 PM (5 years, 28 days ago)

how many watts is the sun?


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: aljeezzy]
    #596938 - 11/14/11 10:55 PM (5 years, 28 days ago)

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aljeezzy said:
how many watts is the sun?




Quote:

The Sun produces energy at the mass to energy conversion rate of 4.26 million metric tons per second, or 384.6 yottawatts (3.846×1026 W), or 9.192 × 1010 megatons of TNT per second.




Edit: some of those things are supposed to be exponents but didn't copy pasta well. First result in google search for a more accurate representation of my answer lol.


@OP - Very nice :yesnod: I veg with 150w of CFL and always thought it was a little excessive. Now I know.


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: aljeezzy]
    #596939 - 11/14/11 10:56 PM (5 years, 28 days ago)

I am the only member here qualified to use a Search Engine.

The Sun produces energy at the mass to energy conversion rate of 4.26 million metric tons per second, or 384.6 yottawatts (3.846×1026 W), or 9.192 × 1010 megatons of TNT per second.

That's a yotta watts!


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #596941 - 11/14/11 11:04 PM (5 years, 28 days ago)

good 3w starter! so did you wire it up to a phonecharger or something??? do they sell prewired chrismas tree leds too???


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #596942 - 11/14/11 11:13 PM (5 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
I see so many baby plants vegged under huge lights or like 5-6 or more 23w CLFs, when that is hardly necessary. And then the same people talk about GPW... :rolleyes:

People did not believe the huge plant I vegged with a single 23w CFL, when this is way more impressive.

Here is my widdle 8" X 8" A-Train vegged under a single 3w cool white LED. Yes, one 3W light with nothing else. The hull wouldn't come off and it was nearly dead and I was ready to toss it, but it made a full recovery and is a happy camper. :cool:



Think I am lying? A standard CFL radiates in almost a 360 degree radius. This is a 30 degree LED thus the beam is concentrated 12 times and since it has 50% more LPW, that is 18 times the concentration of a comparable CFL.

Will probably flip in one more week. I am going to attempt to flower with an absolute minimum of watts and still get an acceptable harvest to see what is possible. I might have to go as high as 18w. :whoa:





So how old is this plant?
An what in your opinion is an acceptable harvest?
You're starting to get me interested, I just want some more details.:yesnod:


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: aljeezzy]
    #596943 - 11/14/11 11:13 PM (5 years, 28 days ago)

And thus why I rarely post here to share new things. I am a scientist and engineer first and a grower second. When there is understanding there is no need to grope in the dark with hit or miss techniques.

I showed how to double the size of your plants with cheap electro-stim. No interest.

I showed how to grow in 24 hours of light DURING FLOWERING. No interest.

I have many ideas to take growing to the next level.


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: Stoneth]
    #596945 - 11/14/11 11:24 PM (5 years, 28 days ago)

I won't lie about the age, it is almost 5 weeks because of the early damage. It was stunted and almost dead and only a little over 1" at 3 weeks. Her brothers and sisters started the same day are at 18-28" under my large DIY LED. But once it got healthy it took off like lightning - and you can see it is neary picture perfect. The damaged leaf is from being FIMMED once.

The sole key is that almost all of the light is hitting the plant. No need for reflectors. Dig up almost any picture of your own or another growers early veg and you will see 90% of the light missing the plants.

What is acceptable? I have a whole 'nother grow to provide my needs so I am making this first experiment up as I go along. Basically, I am going to let the plant tell me how much it needs. Of course, if it is male - well I will probably still flower it just to finish the experiment.


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #596946 - 11/14/11 11:25 PM (5 years, 28 days ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #596947 - 11/14/11 11:25 PM (5 years, 28 days ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
I showed how to grow in 24 hours of light DURING FLOWERING. No interest.




Links please!
To my knowledge only auto-flowers flower under greater than 16 hrs of light.
I'm curious.


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #596948 - 11/14/11 11:29 PM (5 years, 28 days ago)

When I get the time, I will post a photo of a white wall being lit up by the 3w LED vs. a 23w CFL from the same distance. There is no comparison. None. The CLF light, even using a quality reflector, is scattered all over. The LED pattern is nice and tight.


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: Stoneth]
    #596950 - 11/14/11 11:39 PM (5 years, 28 days ago)

It was on another site that I no longer frequent.

Because flowering is only triggered by the photo-period of red, I run my blue LEDS 24 hours and my plants do not revert to veg. I am going to amend to add some violet (not UV) and green to balance it out.

Obviously, it does not flower as well at night as during full day spectrum, but it performs way better than 12 hours of dark.

Unfortunately, I only have one grow space else I would do a side-by-side to demonstrate the superiority.

My night light is only 20% the output of my day light and is only run for an additional 12 hours so increased yield is about 8% and not the expected 10% or a little less than proportional due to the limited spectrum.

Also my future night light will be a separate full wattage light.


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #596978 - 11/15/11 03:26 AM (5 years, 28 days ago)

one grow space? why don't you get 2 spaces and grow um side by side? nobody is gonna believe you if you dont have a test and a separate control. most people here don't know what L.E.D. stands for, they aren't going to even be able to comprehend spectrum talk. everyone needs a full layman's writeup


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: aljeezzy]
    #596991 - 11/15/11 05:43 AM (5 years, 28 days ago)

Looks healthy for a 3w led...  wonder what a healthy plant from the get go would do on a 3w led and how much bigger it would be than this one..


Edited by phrostbyte (11/15/11 05:43 AM)


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: phrostbyte]
    #597016 - 11/15/11 11:42 AM (5 years, 27 days ago)

I think it would be the same just a lot sooner. Because of the stall I sort of consider this at 2-3 weeks. As to how big it can get on this amount of light - stay tuned.


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: aljeezzy]
    #597050 - 11/15/11 03:58 PM (5 years, 27 days ago)

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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: aljeezzy]
    #597163 - 11/16/11 03:21 PM (5 years, 26 days ago)

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one grow space? why don't you get 2 spaces and grow um side by side? nobody is gonna believe you if you dont have a test and a separate control. most people here don't know what L.E.D. stands for, they aren't going to even be able to comprehend spectrum talk. everyone needs a full layman's writeup




Why would he change his way of doing things just to prove himself right??? Why not assert his claims, and allow someone else to prove him wrong. its not his responsibility to show you how to be a better grower. Do your own work & research, and you'll find out for yourself if he's right or wrong.

Anyone here who DOESN'T know what LED stands for should log off now, since they probably aren't old enough for this site.

Not everyone needs a layman's writeup. If you do your research, you'll understand all the terms he used, and if now, you can always ask.

All in all, man. You should really stfu and gtfo or try learning something instead of spouting assinine garbage.


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: Tank333]
    #597167 - 11/16/11 03:54 PM (5 years, 26 days ago)

you're right.


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: aljeezzy]
    #597543 - 11/19/11 12:28 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

Although I do have to say I would love to read a side by side comparison. LOL


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Re: My 3w Grow [Re: wire5]
    #597550 - 11/19/11 01:33 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

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wire5 said:
Although I do have to say I would love to read a side by side comparison. LOL




I'd like that too with pics lol I'm currently exploring my options for my mom/vedge/clone area as i don't want to use HID's because of heat buildup. So i'll be watching this thread.


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