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Having Kids
    #442618 - 07/06/10 07:17 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I've been thinking a lot lately about whether or not to have kids.  I figure I am getting to the point to where I should start seriously considering this.  Or shall i say reconsider this.  I've pretty much lived my life with the expectation that I would have kids someday.  But I now reconsider whether or not I should have any children.  I'm curious to see what everyone feels about this issue.  I'll add a poll for shits.  Discuss!
Do you want children?
You may choose only one


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Re: Having Kids [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #442620 - 07/06/10 07:18 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I'm gonna wait till I can afford it.

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Re: Having Kids [Re: DungenessDank]
    #442623 - 07/06/10 07:23 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

See, the "!" on the "Yes" made me want to vote "not sure".

I want one. If my girl wants more, OK. But, I just want the one. If she wants more, I'm not gonna say no, but I feel like I want one.

God, I hope its a boy when it comes time.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: DungenessDank]
    #442625 - 07/06/10 07:24 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I love and enjoy mine but I know people who have kids and should not have them. This is something you have to figure for yourself. If you have a very selfish side then no. Do you like being around kids? this is another good question.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: RasJeph]
    #442626 - 07/06/10 07:24 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

When the time comes I'm just gonna knock some skeezer up and get the dirty part over with.

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Re: Having Kids [Re: DungenessDank]
    #442648 - 07/06/10 07:55 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

not in this generation. dont do it.
adopt.
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Re: Having Kids [Re: Tina]
    #442650 - 07/06/10 07:57 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Never Have Kids Never Get Married.:thumbup:  FREEDOM > ALL.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Homosapian]
    #442660 - 07/06/10 08:11 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

ill have kids, but not until i can afford it and im married.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: iStoner]
    #442666 - 07/06/10 08:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

oh yeah. dont get married either. forgot about that.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Tina]
    #442671 - 07/06/10 08:24 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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oh yeah. don't get married either. forgot about that.



50% of marriages FAIL  , therefore if you get married you are an idiot,  plain and simple :awedrugs:


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Homosapian]
    #442678 - 07/06/10 08:27 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

How have you not been banned from this forum yet.. jesus.

I voted "yes,"  I would like a family at some point, but not until I am out of college

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Re: Having Kids [Re: Picklez]
    #442682 - 07/06/10 08:30 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I hate kids. so no kids for mee


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Re: Having Kids [Re: volcomstoner]
    #442684 - 07/06/10 08:31 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I hate kids. so no kids for mee



you coul raise them to be like you


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Re: Having Kids [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #442686 - 07/06/10 08:34 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I voted not sure, but lean towards yes.  Im getting to that age, or more specifically my wife is getting to that age where we cant really wait too much longer.  That said, Im completely irresponsible and a bad influence so I dont know.  The thought of getting old, having your family die off and being alone sucks too.

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Re: Having Kids [Re: DieCommie]
    #442687 - 07/06/10 08:38 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You are hardly irresponsible. You are one of the more responsible people that I know

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Re: Having Kids [Re: Picklez]
    #442689 - 07/06/10 08:42 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I dont know man, I do get shit done but still... Maybe its more that I am a bad influence rather than irresponsible.  Whatever the case, I wouldnt want my kids being babysat by me.  :tongue:

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Re: Having Kids [Re: DieCommie]
    #442690 - 07/06/10 08:44 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You need to give yourself more credit man.

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Re: Having Kids [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #442695 - 07/06/10 08:46 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Damn poll is rigged. It won't let you choose both "No" and "I already have at least one".

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Re: Having Kids [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #442697 - 07/06/10 08:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

:agentgtfo:

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Re: Having Kids [Re: Picklez]
    #442700 - 07/06/10 08:55 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

did you know the police have one of the highest divorce rates, i guess when you a drunk power abusing shit you take it home with you.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Kilroy]
    #442819 - 07/07/10 01:59 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I want at least one but possibly two kids. I have a younger sister so I guess one boy one girl would be good.

That being said I don't want them for a loooooonnngggg time hahaha.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Picklez]
    #442857 - 07/07/10 05:54 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I would like a family at some point, but not until I am out of college




I want 2 or 3 kids. I plan on only having kids after I have found an acceptable mother for them.

I'm mainly just waiting until both me and the mother are college grads.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #442905 - 07/07/10 09:21 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I voted yes. only one kid for me though...and if i had a choice it'd be a son. 4-5 more yrs and i hope to have a kid. gotta get my shit together financially and find a decent woman. Much easier said than done.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #442908 - 07/07/10 09:34 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I voted yes. only one kid for me though...and if i had a choice it'd be a son. 4-5 more yrs and i hope to have a kid. gotta get my shit together financially and find a decent woman. Much easier said than done.



you said it joe much easier then done, to find the one you want to be with for the rest of your life. I married my first wife(not been married since, but with same woman now for over 14 years) because we got pregnant(I say we because it takes 2 usually) and got married because it was the quote right thing to do bs quote. it was a nightmare of a divorce and custody battle for 10 years, I won. So be sure folks before you do or you could spend a shit load of money to a mouth piece(aka lawyer) and if your ex was like mine(total nut job) keep records of their crap it will help in court.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Kilroy] * 1
    #442922 - 07/07/10 09:51 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Protip: Knock her up on July 28th and you might just get 4/20 baby. Imagine having your birthday on 4/20 every year, you would be giving him/her a gift that will keep on giving. :gethigh:

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Re: Having Kids [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #442932 - 07/07/10 10:08 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

nice one crusty, i like that one, cool thought


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #442955 - 07/07/10 10:44 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Protip: Knock her up on July 28th and you might just get 4/20 baby. Imagine having your birthday on 4/20 every year, you would be giving him/her a gift that will keep on giving. :gethigh:



as awesome as that would be, i always thought it was too, ummmmm, artificial?, when someone would plan the exact day it was born.
i was only two days off 420, woulda love that bday but 4/22 is a pretty sweet one to have for myself


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Re: Having Kids [Re: iStoner]
    #442963 - 07/07/10 10:54 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I vote not sure, but the fact of the matter is it is not outside the realm of possibility with me.  My gf used to want one really bad, but now she became wiser and wants to wait, and I think 1 would be plenty.

I'll give it 3-4 years, I better focus on myself while I can!


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Inverted]
    #443016 - 07/07/10 12:25 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

you people are sad , why would you have spawns of yourself if there is obviously a problem with the current population as it is?


adopt a kid if you want one... there are plenty :huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Homosapian]
    #443017 - 07/07/10 12:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Do you know how hard it is to adopt a white baby?

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Re: Having Kids [Re: Homosapian]
    #443018 - 07/07/10 12:29 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, but other people are fucking idiots.  It's sad that we live in a society where people who can't afford to feed themselves have 5 other mouths to feed, yet the people who can afford several children dont have any.  I think we really should have started looking at population control issues 70 years ago.  Perhaps instead of banning cannabis.  but w/e.  its sick.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #443023 - 07/07/10 12:34 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

it is very sick. but nothing is going to change here, thre are too many ignorant fucks in america.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: iStoner]
    #443024 - 07/07/10 12:35 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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thre are too many ignorant fucks in earth.



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Re: Having Kids [Re: DungenessDank]
    #443062 - 07/07/10 02:30 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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thre are too many ignorant fucks in earth.







:rofl::rofl::rofl:


Oh you!


But also, why the fuck would I adopt?

I like my genes, I don't want to risk adopting some kid with shitty genes.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #443307 - 07/08/10 07:19 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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But also, why the fuck would I adopt?

I like my genes, I don't want to risk adopting some kid with shitty genes.




Cause there are already kids who need help...?
and if you can/are able to help.. why not-


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It's sad that we live in a society where people who can't afford to feed themselves have 5 other mouths to feed, yet the people who can afford several children dont have any.




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Re: Having Kids [Re: Homosapian]
    #443309 - 07/08/10 07:45 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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you people are sad , why would you have spawns of yourself if there is obviously a problem with the current population as it is?




By that logic you clearly don't value your own existence.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #443323 - 07/08/10 08:25 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I'd rather have my own, that way can do all things possible to help it during the pregnancy. Music, mother reading/ being read to, all that jazz.

I plan on also teaching my children chess at a young age, because not learning it until highschool gave me like a grand total of 2 years to learn chess before my school went to nationals.

Although chess nationals have different divisions for different ratings, I played an 8 years old who was probably one of the hardest player that I ever beat.



Plus I doubt I could really love a kid that wasn't mine. I want a kid of my bloodline, not from someone else.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #443633 - 07/08/10 06:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I plan on also teaching my children chess at a young age, because not learning it until highschool gave me like a grand total of 2 years to learn chess before my school went to nationals.

Although chess nationals have different divisions for different ratings, I played an 8 years old who was probably one of the hardest player that I ever beat.





are you on drugs?  :lol:

but ya, i understand about the mothers health during gestation.  I think that is most imperative.  Keeping her stress and basically drug free and eating healthy.  I have been meaning to freeze some sperm for a long time now.  I need to get it done before something happens to my creation parts.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: DungenessDank]
    #443636 - 07/08/10 06:52 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Do you know how hard it is to adopt a white baby?



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Do you know how hard it is to adopt a white baby?



why does he have to be white? look at angelina jolie ;D

giving a kid an amazing life ,  who would otherwise be in the streets roaming for a banana like a monkey ... with aids ofc.. silly niggers.

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    #443643 - 07/08/10 07:01 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I plan on also teaching my children chess at a young age, because not learning it until highschool gave me like a grand total of 2 years to learn chess before my school went to nationals.

Although chess nationals have different divisions for different ratings, I played an 8 years old who was probably one of the hardest player that I ever beat.





are you on drugs?  :lol:

but ya, i understand about the mothers health during gestation.  I think that is most imperative.  Keeping her stress and basically drug free and eating healthy.  I have been meaning to freeze some sperm for a long time now.  I need to get it done before something happens to my creation parts.




Why yes I am.

I'm also going to make my kid learn like 3 languages with muzzy.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #443648 - 07/08/10 07:04 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, i can get behind that.  Though, it is really really tough to retain a language when you aren't submersed in that linguistic environment / culture.  I learned spanish in kansas.  I sure the fuck didn't retain much of that.  Spanish would be a good language to learn in the SW.


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    #443649 - 07/08/10 07:04 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I plan on also teaching my children chess at a young age, because not learning it until highschool gave me like a grand total of 2 years to learn chess before my school went to nationals.

Although chess nationals have different divisions for different ratings, I played an 8 years old who was probably one of the hardest player that I ever beat.





are you on drugs?  :lol:

but ya, i understand about the mothers health during gestation.  I think that is most imperative.  Keeping her stress and basically drug free and eating healthy.  I have been meaning to freeze some sperm for a long time now.  I need to get it done before something happens to my creation parts.




Why yes I am.

I'm also going to make my kid learn like 3 languages with muzzy.



different languages is a good idea , i know 4 and plan to learn alooooooot more.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Homosapian]
    #443654 - 07/08/10 07:07 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

that sounds like something I would have to see to believe.  :thumbdown:


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #443655 - 07/08/10 07:08 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

my parents tried to make me learn with muzzy, so did my school.
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    #443657 - 07/08/10 07:09 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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yeah, i can get behind that.  Though, it is really really tough to retain a language when you aren't submersed in that linguistic environment / culture.  I learned spanish in kansas.  I sure the fuck didn't retain much of that.  Spanish would be a good language to learn in the SW.




Yea, I was thinking about using rosetta stone to keep it recent in their minds. Like make them do an hour or two a week with each language.

Maybe even just one language, because from what people say it is easier to learn more languages after your second. (but sometimes I think that is because some people just don't understand completely how their first language works, and because of that have trouble forming sentences in a different order).

Or I could be completely wrong. But I feel like that is what makes it hard to learn the first.


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    #443658 - 07/08/10 07:09 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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that sounds like something I would have to see to believe.  :thumbdown:



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its hard for me to learn languages ive tried latin and spanish. latin is very interesting


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    #443663 - 07/08/10 07:18 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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its hard for me to learn languages ive tried latin and spanish. latin is very interesting




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    #443664 - 07/08/10 07:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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that sounds like something I would have to hear to believe.  :thumbdown:




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    #443692 - 07/08/10 07:38 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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that sounds like something I would have to see and hear to believe.  :thumbdown:




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    #443733 - 07/08/10 08:38 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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See, the "!" on the "Yes" made me want to vote "not sure".

I want one. If my girl wants more, OK. But, I just want the one. If she wants more, I'm not gonna say no, but I feel like I want one.

God, I hope its a boy when it comes time.





This guy wants kids so he can molest them. As his signature indicates. That shit shouldn't even viewed for me, if you actually say adult material is in your signature. But that doesn't justify your kiddy porn shit dood. Enjoy prison dog, if that is your thing sicko.

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BAN!
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See, the "!" on the "Yes" made me want to vote "not sure".

I want one. If my girl wants more, OK. But, I just want the one. If she wants more, I'm not gonna say no, but I feel like I want one.

God, I hope its a boy when it comes time.





This guy wants kids so he can molest them. As his signature indicates. That shit shouldn't even viewed for me, if you actually say adult material is in your signature. But that doesn't justify your kiddy porn shit dood. Enjoy prison dog, if that is your thing sicko.




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    #443762 - 07/08/10 09:20 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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you people are sad , why would you have spawns of yourself if there is obviously a problem with the current population as it is?




By that logic you clearly don't value your own existence.



ADOPT , there are plenty of homeless kids out there..
are my parents assholes for having me instead of adopting a child in need ? maybe they did not know any better??? i dont think there was such a big problem with our population 20 years ago.. but i could be wrong

the fact is there are waaay too many people on this planet.. why create more? why not help the ones in need first?

and yes , i would gladly give my life for a kid who was homeless and no family , before my parents created me.

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    #443765 - 07/08/10 09:26 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

WTF are you smoking homo?

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    #443946 - 07/09/10 09:47 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds like a brilliant way to boost the intelligence level of the population. Take all of the unwanted babies from all of the poor/young/degenerate/unsuitable parents around the world and divvy them up. After getting paid out the ass those fuckups go spawn more and more kids for the rest of the world to raise. Yeah man, brilliant. The fact you would require people to pay for the right to procreate is laughable.

If you think Earth is overpopulated you haven't seen enough of it.

There is standing room for 5.5 billion people in the city of Jacksonville, FL alone. I'll just throw that out there and pound you with more facts if you reply.

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    #443983 - 07/09/10 10:44 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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yeah, i can get behind that.  Though, it is really really tough to retain a language when you aren't submersed in that linguistic environment / culture.  I learned spanish in kansas.  I sure the fuck didn't retain much of that.  Spanish would be a good language to learn in the SW.





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yeah, i can get behind that.  Though, it is really really tough to retain a language when you aren't submersed in that linguistic environment / culture.  I learned spanish in kansas.  I sure the fuck didn't retain much of that.  Spanish would be a good language to learn in the SW.





SE too brah. we got spics everywhere.
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that sounds like something I would have to see to believe.  :thumbdown:



i know english , spanish , german and portuguese.




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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
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    #443993 - 07/09/10 10:54 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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yeah, i can get behind that.  Though, it is really really tough to retain a language when you aren't submersed in that linguistic environment / culture.  I learned spanish in kansas.  I sure the fuck didn't retain much of that.  Spanish would be a good language to learn in the SW.





SE too brah. we got spics everywhere.




I was surprised when I had to learn Spanish in middle school.


Apparently a couple decades ago the Mexicans outnumbered the Germans in my town.


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    #444145 - 07/09/10 01:16 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Sounds like a brilliant way to boost the intelligence level of the population. Take all of the unwanted babies from all of the poor/young/degenerate/unsuitable parents around the world and divvy them up. After getting paid out the ass those fuckups go spawn more and more kids for the rest of the world to raise. Yeah man, brilliant. The fact you would require people to pay for the right to procreate is laughable.

If you think Earth is overpopulated you haven't seen enough of it.

There is standing room for 5.5 billion people in the city of Jacksonville, FL alone. I'll just throw that out there and pound you with more facts if you reply.





with all due respect it sounds like you don't understand this issue.  Standing room for 5.5 billion people in jacksonvile?  Even assuming that statistic is true, what does it matter?  Geography isn't the issue, it's resources.  Water, food, clothing, etc.  the essentials.  Population is a fucking huge problem.  Something has to change, undeniable dilemma.  I dont have any answers that would be legit.  I mean there is no way america would set up restrictions on procreation - plus that would be a huge violation of human rights.  So it's just something that is all fucked up.  Human civilization is approaching the brink.  How much longer can we ignore the problem?  Something has to give.


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yeah, i can get behind that.  Though, it is really really tough to retain a language when you aren't submersed in that linguistic environment / culture.  I learned spanish in kansas.  I sure the fuck didn't retain much of that.  Spanish would be a good language to learn in the SW.





SE too brah. we got spics everywhere.




I was surprised when I had to learn Spanish in middle school.


Apparently a couple decades ago the Mexicans outnumbered the Germans in my town.


Not anymore :minigun:




:lol:  im of german descent as well.  I wish I knew more about my bloodline.


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yeah, i can get behind that.  Though, it is really really tough to retain a language when you aren't submersed in that linguistic environment / culture.  I learned spanish in kansas.  I sure the fuck didn't retain much of that.  Spanish would be a good language to learn in the SW.





SE too brah. we got spics everywhere.




I was surprised when I had to learn Spanish in middle school.


Apparently a couple decades ago the Mexicans outnumbered the Germans in my town.


Not anymore :minigun:




:lol:  im of german descent as well.  I wish I knew more about my bloodline.




I know one of my ancestors was a Teutonic knight and died defending (the city walls of) Jerusalem from the Muslims.


Also, agreeing that resources are the issue, just didn't feel like quoting..


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    #444226 - 07/09/10 04:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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FurrowedBrow said:with all due respect it sounds like you don't understand this issue.  Standing room for 5.5 billion people in jacksonvile?  Even assuming that statistic is true, what does it matter?  Geography isn't the issue, it's resources.  Water, food, clothing, etc.  the essentials.  Population is a fucking huge problem.  Something has to change, undeniable dilemma.  I dont have any answers that would be legit.  I mean there is no way america would set up restrictions on procreation - plus that would be a huge violation of human rights.  So it's just something that is all fucked up.  Human civilization is approaching the brink.  How much longer can we ignore the problem?  Something has to give.




With all due respect I understand the issueS in great detail.

I don't think he was referring to resources when he said it was irresponsible to have kids instead of adopt, unless of course he really thought you or I or anyone else in the thread couldn't provide for a child. The point about a single city being big enough for 5.5 billion people to stand in was only for the purpose of scope.

While I agree with you that lack of resources is the biggest problem in the world today, overpopulation has almost nothing to do with it. Failed governments and failed policies that prevent 3rd world residents (even rural) from so much as learning about modern agriculture or even the most basic principles of self-sustainability is the problem. Crude as it may be this is a pretty sound example I just saw on Wednesday: http://i.imgur.com/etfdW.jpg (insight). (Irony is not lost on me how loosely nig/nigger is thrown around on this forum, but lets not ask bigots about what issues they might not understand.)

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Since 1948, according to the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization and the U.S. Department of Agriculture, annual world food production has outpaced the increase in population by about 1 percent. Today, per capita production and per-acre yields are at all-time highs. Prices of agricultural products have been falling for more than 100 years. The average inflation-adjusted price of those products, indexed to wages, fell by more than 74 percent between 1950 and 1990.




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In the period from 1950 to 1955, there were 159 infant deaths per 1,000 live births in the developing world. By the first half of the 1980s, the number had plunged by more than 42 percent - to 92. In East Asia, infant mortality dropped 71 percent. In South America, the drop averaged 52 percent. In Africa, infant mortality dropped 38 percent. In the industrialized world, the rate fell more than 69 percent. The increase in life expectancy at birth has been equally dramatic. Between 1950 to 1955 and 1980 to 1985, the average increase worldwide was 13 years, up 29 percent. In the industrialized world, life expectancy went from 65 years to 73 years. But the biggest news was in the developing world, where life expectancy went from 41 years to more than 56 - a 38 percent increase.




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The Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations states in its report The State of Food Insecurity in the World 2006, that while the number of undernourished people in the developing countries has declined by about three million, a smaller proportion of the populations of developing countries is undernourished today than in 1990–92: 17% against 20%. Furthermore, FAO’s projections suggest that the proportion of hungry people in developing countries could be halved from 1990-92 levels to 10% by 2015. The FAO also states "We have emphasized first and foremost that reducing hunger is no longer a question of means in the hands of the global community. The world is richer today than it was ten years ago. There is more food available and still more could be produced without excessive upward pressure on prices. The knowledge and resources to reduce hunger are there. What is lacking is sufficient political will to mobilize those resources to the benefit of the hungry."




We live longer, healthier lives than ever before in history and we've thought civilization was on the brink for at least 90 years now. The number of people who are overweight has surpassed the number who are undernourished. Overpopulation will not be what pushes us to or over the brink in any event.

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Re: Having Kids [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #444241 - 07/09/10 05:57 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i figured that comment would get you all riled up.  :lol:  I didn't really mean to be a dick.  I actually took your statement out of context anyway.  However, I'm not sure about overpopulation and resources not being related.  I would argue that those two go together like PB & J.  If there was one person on earth, resources wouldn't be an issue.  If there are 6 billion people, or 6 trillion people.  The more people the less non-sustainable resources, that simple.  Overpopulation will push us over the brink eventually.  Unless we discover dimensional travel or we start to populate the space around earth.  That is eventually, if everything else doesn't fuck us up first.  It might not be an issue that our generation is confronted with, but a generation will.  But Mother nature is soo fucking pissed at us right now, im sure she's got some nasty shit in store for all of us before then.  The rest of our lives will be damn interesting.  This is a good conversation but a bit off topic.



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    #444244 - 07/09/10 06:12 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

The rate of increase in population has been falling for many decades.  Extrapolating the current figures implies there will likley be an equilibrium reached withing a hundred years (or less).

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    #444251 - 07/09/10 06:25 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

oh your sources are fucking crazy man.  And dead wrong. 

http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&met=sp_pop_totl&tdim=true&dl=en&hl=en&q=world+population

just one of very very many 'official' sources on population growth.


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    #444253 - 07/09/10 06:27 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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    #444268 - 07/09/10 07:08 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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oh your sources are fucking crazy man.  And dead wrong. 

http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&met=sp_pop_totl&tdim=true&dl=en&hl=en&q=world+population

just one of very very many 'official' sources on population growth.





I dont think so.  Looking at it holistically, rather than just from one graph and a gut feeling, you can see that the most probable case is one where population growth slows down to the environments carrying capacity.  Thats how population growth is modeled, as a logistic function that approaches a limit.  Of course the population is still going up, but thats not the issue.  The issue is the change in our rate of increase.  And the data shows that has been going down.  So while population is increasing, its increasing more slowly.  (on the right side of the logistic curve)  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population ; What the carrying capacity is and when it will be reached is a good question.  But what we do know that population growth is decreasing - the trend is towards an equilibrium.

I didnt realize this either until somebody expalind it to me and pointed out the evidence.

(also a fun part of that wikipeida article is the "Forecasts of scarcity" which highlights the so many wrong doomsday overpopulation predictions that have been made.  Also in that wikipedia page they say that the UN has consistently revised its population growth estimates to be less than before)


edit - here is the source of some of that wikipedia article.  Its short and readable.  It also does have a forecast for the year of stabilization of the population and the carrying capacity. They prject stabilizing near the year 2200 at about 10 billion people.  You can see that in the 100 and 150 years before that the population growth really slows down.

http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/sixbillion/sixbilpart1.pdf

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Re: Having Kids [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #444404 - 07/10/10 12:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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oh your sources are fucking crazy man.  And dead wrong. 

http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&met=sp_pop_totl&tdim=true&dl=en&hl=en&q=world+population

just one of very very many 'official' sources on population growth.




Was this even directed at me? I quoted United Nations/FDA statistics as of 1990 and further UN statistics from 2006 via wikipedia (overpopulation) as well as Roger Revelle (Al Gore's mentor). Also, what specifically was dead wrong if you were? My world revolves around statistics and facts and I cross-check everything, so if something above was incorrect I'm certainly not above correcting it and eating humble pie.

And I'm not riled up, I just flatly disagree with the notion that the number of people inhabiting this planet is further diminishing the resources of the poor.

Governments and corporations diminishing natural resources to the point we are pushed to the brink...well thats something I could talk about for days. Overpopulation is the guise they use to do many of the things they do, such as genetically alter food and exploit 3rd world countries without enough food of their own to grow more for the rest of us. I'm in total agreement with you other than the number of people being the root problem. Human indifference has always and will always be the root problem of hunger. Lets be real, we have the means to feed and clothe everyone on the planet and we don't.


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    #444457 - 07/10/10 09:40 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

:thumbup:

If we are going to continue to grow as a species, we need to learn how to live a smarter more efficient existence.

Fixed some grammatical errors. :smirk:

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    #444476 - 07/10/10 10:34 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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If we are going to continue to grow a species, we need to learn how to live a smarter more efficient existence.



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Re: Having Kids [Re: Kilroy]
    #444606 - 07/10/10 04:48 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

At some point I might have Kanye'd the thread and I apologize, but I also think you asked me to Furrowed? :laugh:

To circle back on topic I plan on having kids and raising them the best I possibly can. :lol:

I shared your views Furrowed and even Homosapian's to some extent when I was in my teens and early twenties. I'm saying this not having a clue how old either of you guys are mind you and not preaching (fierce athiest) but keep an open heart and an open mind on this subject specifically. Whether or not to have a child (assuming you're capable :wink:) is the the biggest decision each one of us is faced with in life. I commend people that stick to their guns and choose not to have children for reasons they believe in or cave to social pressures, but homo's comment equating procreation to irresponsibility just pissed me the fuck off. That is a viewpoint of someone that does not fully understand the issues and I was just a little shocked he wasn't the one you were calling out.

Someone asked me once to think of a better, more impactful way of making the world a better place than by raising a great child. I'm still honestly thinking about that 3-4 years later.

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Re: Having Kids [Re: DieCommie]
    #444868 - 07/11/10 10:32 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

No, i wasn't directing that at you CAB.  And thanks for bringing this back to the topic at hand.  Although this digression does relate to some degree.

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oh your sources are fucking crazy man.  And dead wrong. 

http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&met=sp_pop_totl&tdim=true&dl=en&hl=en&q=world+population

just one of very very many 'official' sources on population growth.





I dont think so.  Looking at it holistically, rather than just from one graph and a gut feeling, you can see that the most probable case is one where population growth slows down to the environments carrying capacity.  Thats how population growth is modeled, as a logistic function that approaches a limit.  Of course the population is still going up, but thats not the issue.  The issue is the change in our rate of increase.  And the data shows that has been going down.  So while population is increasing, its increasing more slowly.  (on the right side of the logistic curve)  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population ; What the carrying capacity is and when it will be reached is a good question.  But what we do know that population growth is decreasing - the trend is towards an equilibrium.

I didnt realize this either until somebody expalind it to me and pointed out the evidence.

(also a fun part of that wikipeida article is the "Forecasts of scarcity" which highlights the so many wrong doomsday overpopulation predictions that have been made.  Also in that wikipedia page they say that the UN has consistently revised its population growth estimates to be less than before)


edit - here is the source of some of that wikipedia article.  Its short and readable.  It also does have a forecast for the year of stabilization of the population and the carrying capacity. They prject stabilizing near the year 2200 at about 10 billion people.  You can see that in the 100 and 150 years before that the population growth really slows down.

http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/sixbillion/sixbilpart1.pdf





I misunderstood your comment.  :lol:  my bad.  I really hope you are right about the balancing of population and resources.  I don't see it, since it's been reported that the first person who will make it to the age of 150 has already been born.  Unless we do away with the concept that we have of 'status' it's a downward spiral we are in.  I do like your optimism though.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Homosapian]
    #444930 - 07/11/10 01:21 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

why does he have to be white? look at angelina jolie ;D

giving a kid an amazing life ,  who would otherwise be in the streets roaming for a banana like a monkey ... with aids ofc.. silly niggers.




Wow and I thought this post was going to have some intelligence to it, then you burst my bubble with ignorance at the end. I learn something new everyday! Ignorant racist are indeed sometimes educated. That's if you really do speak 4 languages.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Jeff Funk]
    #444966 - 07/11/10 03:25 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

He got whacked by the permaban stick.  Soooooo, he no longer exists.


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Re: Having Kids [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #445006 - 07/11/10 06:43 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Good to hear!


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Re: Having Kids [Re: Jeff Funk]
    #445026 - 07/11/10 07:55 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

he finally got banned their is a god lol jk jk about the god part


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