Quote:

---

Spency said:
Harry, buy a mac next time.

---

Quote:

---

hemostats said:

---

Quote:

---

Doitagain said:
prettay much yeah, except for gaming.  that's not really an issue for me, i just prefer windows because i know how to use it without any problems and mac has always seemed like its on training wheels.

My sister does have a really nice macbookpro with a massive screen and i used it to DJ with and that was quite  anice experience i must say.

---

Quote:

---

mhbound said:
A 5000 dollar PC which is what a MAC costs will outrun a mac anyday of the week...

You get what you pay for...

Naturally a low-end PC will run like shit.

Its often times not the OS that's buggy its the hardware/drivers.

If Apple were to allow people to use the MAC os on other machines like Dell don't you think people would be bitching?? Probably so.

---

mhbound: Nothing personal. Just ranting.

I'm pretty hardware savy and have been building my own windows computers for about 8 years now. I disagree completely with you.

Now if we're talking about desktops, then this is highly debatable in terms of hardware performance, however it is undeniable that the MAC OS is far superior to any windows platform.

The whole notion that macs are uncustomizable and on training wheels makes no sense. Customizable? What does that even mean? How do you customize your computer? Great so you can get a sick case with a plexi glass side door, LED fans and maybe even a liquid cooling system. Thats what I built a couple of years ago...



Wow you can do that with windows machines, big deal!!! Honestly, if I had a mac tower, I could rip the guts out and transfer them into a new case and have it setup exactly like that.

Can you do that with laptops? Uhhh no.... so I guess windows laptops aren't customizable either then eh? Well lets check out some of the top laptops then:
http://reviews.cnet.com/best-laptops/

Hrmmm..... woah? Macbooks like way up there - it's pretty cheap too! That's just the base model too!


But I mean, you can customize the hardware anyway when you order it online!

Customization: What else could this mean? Does it reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally matter whether or not you can change up your desktop? To some it does! You can do this on mac too! Why you would want to though I don't understand, the dock is the easiest and fastest way to navigate and use your computer.

Also, everyone seems to have the most incredible price misconceptions with apple products. If you think comparably apples are more unreasonably priced than windows computers read this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/apple-mac-leopard-windows-vista,1985.html

In that article, tomshardware built a computer with the exact same specifications as a baseline Mac Pro. They bought all their hardware from newegg.com + Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate - guess what: came out to about the same price. Just so everyone really understands what that means: Buying a Mac Pro Tower (fully built with Mac OSX installed) is JUST AS CHEAP AS buying the same individual parts, building it yourself and installing windows on it. HELLO?!?!?

Apples got some pretty nasty policies and they can be assholes for sure. They really are. However, the quality of both laptops and desktops as well as their prices are simply not something that can be debated. This endless price mongering and apple bashing is soo old already. None of it is true.

Other than their airport line products, I don't I have any complaints about any apple products I've ever bought. So far multiple ipods, 2 iphones, 2 laptops, airport express and a multitude of accessories.

Macs are on training wheels? What does that mean? I don't understand that. Does that mean the computer will most likely not break down, is simple and easy to use? I actually like that.

Windows machines are only good for gaming. You can install windows on a mac.

/End Rant

Quote:

---

Harry_Ba11sach said:
well in other news, my computer randomly fixed itself yesterday.... I just turned it on and it was fine. for some reason about 35 reboots in a row as well as complete OS reinstall did absolutely nothing, but just forgetting about it for 10 hours while I slept made all the different

that said, continue with the computer discussion, it's very interesting

---

Quote:

---

Doitagain said:

Quote:

---

hemostats said:

---

haha great analogy.

---

 


I think this picture sums up to debate of Mac or PC!

It is so true in so many ways. First off is the basic machine, the above article goes on to say that you can buy a factory made baseline apple or build yourself a pc with quality parts for the same price. Well honestly i would prefer my home made pc of quailty parts over any thing factory built. The parts i would install would be true parts, not component parts like factory made stuff.

Quote:

---

In that article, tomshardware built a computer with the exact same specifications as a baseline Mac Pro. They bought all their hardware from newegg.com + Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate - guess what: came out to about the same price. Just so everyone really understands what that means: Buying a Mac Pro Tower (fully built with Mac OSX installed) is JUST AS CHEAP AS buying the same individual parts, building it yourself and installing windows on it. HELLO?!?!?

---

The main reason i do not have a mac is because there is no software to speak of! Mac offer a round of nice software, but that is it for mac. No third party software. I like choices and preferences not get stuck with what is available. I know what your going to say, "there is a software program for anything you can do on windows". Yup your right, but like i said, that is it, you have no choice or selection for that matter. You stuck with what apple offers you!

Pc is an awsome machine in the right hands. Has thousands of options, software choices, tweaks, and other things. Pc is not the lazy man's machine and requires knowledge of how it works and proper configuration to get the most out of it. Unfortunately, the windows/PC platform is the most used in the world, which in return is the most targeted by programmers, adware, spyware and viruses. Windows has been around for alot longer and the expoits are taken advantage of. And this is where i think pc is getting a bad name. Apple has been around but not in public like the pc. Not many people owned mac's  to exploit. But i guarantee that with the popularity of mac these days, the programmers will follow and except the new challenge of exploiting the apple OS.

So i see the photo from hemo's post and laugh cause it really does sum up the debate of pc and mac. You buy a mac and have a solid machine because, there is no altering it with anything other then apple software. Which is why apple is a said monopoly. Software developed for apple by apple, it better be right! Pc on the other hand comes with the basic body and engine, but can be modified beyond your wildest computer dreams! And just like the bikes up there, not just anyone should be tinkering with the mechanics. If configured right, watch out! You can take that basic machine and have a top fuel dragster on your hands. Or if you don't know what your doing you could have a flustering clunker on your hands.

Quote:

---

SpaceMonkey said:
The main reason i do not have a mac is because there is no software to speak of! Mac offer a round of nice software, but that is it for mac. No third party software. I like choices and preferences not get stuck with what is available. I know what your going to say, "there is a software program for anything you can do on windows". Yup your right, but like i said, that is it, you have no choice or selection for that matter. You stuck with what apple offers you!

---

Quote:

---

SpaceMonkey said:
Pc is an awsome machine in the right hands. Has thousands of options, software choices, tweaks, and other things. Pc is not the lazy man's machine and requires knowledge of how it works and proper configuration to get the most out of it. Unfortunately, the windows/PC platform is the most used in the world, which in return is the most targeted by programmers, adware, spyware and viruses. Windows has been around for alot longer and the expoits are taken advantage of. And this is where i think pc is getting a bad name. Apple has been around but not in public like the pc. Not many people owned mac's  to exploit. But i guarantee that with the popularity of mac these days, the programmers will follow and except the new challenge of exploiting the apple OS.

---

Quote:

---

SpaceMonkey said: So i see the photo from hemo's post and laugh cause it really does sum up the debate of pc and mac. You buy a mac and have a solid machine because, there is no altering it with anything other then apple software. Which is why apple is a said monopoly. Software developed for apple by apple, it better be right! Pc on the other hand comes with the basic body and engine, but can be modified beyond your wildest computer dreams! And just like the bikes up there, not just anyone should be tinkering with the mechanics. If configured right, watch out! You can take that basic machine and have a top fuel dragster on your hands. Or if you don't know what your doing you could have a flustering clunker on your hands.

---

x 50



Oh well.... ....