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somebody who's good with computers!!!
#354048 - 01/27/10 08:13 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I need some help! last night my computer was perfectly fine, but this morning I wake up and it's completely fucked!
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all the color rendering is fucked up and I have no idea why. I tried a system restore and it said it failed because some program interfered with it. I can barely even read this box I'm typing it because it's neon pink and all my letters are shadowed in white. I seriously do not understand what's happening.
this computer is less than a month old so I'm freaking out, did I get a faulty graphics card or is this a virus of some sort?
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#354053 - 01/27/10 08:28 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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here's another shot of what google chrome looks like
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#354054 - 01/27/10 08:29 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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and now that I think about it it's really fucking confusing that my computer is able to capture it's own retardedness in a screen shot am I right? if it were a hardware issue I would think the computer would capture it how it's supposed to look but just display it weirdly but that doesn't seem to be the case....
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#354058 - 01/27/10 08:33 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds like a complete system failure and not a graphics problem.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: LordOfChaos]
#354060 - 01/27/10 08:43 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Whats it do in safe mode?
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: mhbound]
#354063 - 01/27/10 09:08 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Unfortunately I haven't been able to boot in safe mode yet. I just noticed the problem when I woke up and now I have 2 hours of class. When I get home I'll check it out
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#354067 - 01/27/10 09:17 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Also, try uninstalling the drivers for the video card and monitor..reboot and they'll install themselves, or should, and see if you get any difference....
Before you do that open msconfig and disable every startup item just to be sure its not some sort of software/hardware problem with the new windows shit
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: mhbound]
#354076 - 01/27/10 09:50 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I FIGURED IT OUT!!!! Your using a PC. It's less then a month old...do yourself a favor and return it and go get yourself a mac. I did sys admin on pc for 5 yrs they are POS. Ive now had my mac for 3 ys and no issues to complain about at all.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: BlzdLivng]
#354077 - 01/27/10 10:03 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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BlzdLivng said: I FIGURED IT OUT!!!! Your using a PC. It's less then a month old...do yourself a favor and return it and go get yourself a mac. I did sys admin on pc for 5 yrs they are POS. Ive now had my mac for 3 ys and no issues to complain about at all.
that
and your screenshots look fine to me so maybe your computer isnt capturing its own retardedness
describe your problem ? could be anything from a loose monitor cable to a short in your video card or a driver issue from what youve described ???
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: BlzdLivng]
#354084 - 01/27/10 10:23 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok telling me to drop another grand on a new computer is not a helpful comment. ![:facepalm: :facepalm:](https://files.growery.org/smileys/facepalm.gif)
and you're right, on my iPhone the screenshots look fine... Hmmm
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#354090 - 01/27/10 10:29 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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It almost sounds viral, specially when you try to restore and it won't allow you too. Try it in safe mode when you get a chance.
Do you know or have the specs of this PC? Are you using a screen saver or shutting the screen off when not being used? Any other symptoms?
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: SpaceMonkey]
#354110 - 01/27/10 11:26 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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It sounds to me like a graphics card/monitor problem. Is your graphics card the one that came in the computer, or an upgrade? Also, check your monitor cables, some flatscreen monitors' get really loose on the bottom.
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Is that a picture by Doobie duck? It sure looks like it. I sometimes suspect his photos being photoshopped. But sorry, i don't have an answer for you at this time.
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I don't think it's a card issue. I've experienced the same issue before - It just sounds like a drivers problems. A recent windows update could have fucked it up.
I doubt it's a serious problem.
Something similar happens to macs where the screen will turn black and remain black - it happens because the aspect ratio changed for some reason or another and it just needs a simple reset.
My first step would be to simply restart. Make sure all cables are plugged in nicely.
If the same issue occurs, uninstall your drivers - once this is done download and install a program called "Driver Cleaner" - look for it on TPB. Use it to clear the remnants of your graphic drivers which I guarantee there will be. Then download the latest drivers from the manufacturers website - so either http://www.nvidia.com or http://www.amd.com Drivers can also screw up if previous graphics drivers haven't been properly uninstalled/installed.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: TomCollins]
#354122 - 01/27/10 12:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm sorry, I should have mentioned that it's a laptop so no wiring issues are likely. I did recently install drivers for my printer so maybe that's it. I just did windows restore to original factory settings, but doesn't seem to have fixedanything...
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#354123 - 01/27/10 12:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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if you did system restore to factory settings nd it is still acting the same then i would say it has to be a hardware issue.
If it is still under warranty take it back!
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: SpaceMonkey]
#354130 - 01/27/10 12:32 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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yep. Tomorrow she's going back to the store. what a fucking piece of shit, I'm so fed up with all the major computer manufacturers. Dell has blown since '99, and I decided to go for an HP this time to see if it would be better.... WAY WORSE
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#354133 - 01/27/10 12:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I painted Micheal Dell's house out here and he was an arrogant Prick!!! He had a hella huge awsome home though, that much i can say.
Buying a laptop, your kinda stuck to buying branded machines, since it is not to feasable to build one like you can a desktop pc. Check out Tigerdirect, they have some nice machines of different brands. They used to build systems to your specs with the hardware you choose. Can be a bit more expensive this way but in my opinion worth it!
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#354160 - 01/27/10 02:24 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Harry_Ba11sach said: yep. Tomorrow she's going back to the store. what a fucking piece of shit, I'm so fed up with all the major computer manufacturers. Dell has blown since '99, and I decided to go for an HP this time to see if it would be better.... WAY WORSE
I've got an HP laptop that has treated me well over the past year with no major problems. Just swap it out and once you get the bugs out I'm sure you'll like it. btw where did you get it?
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: tsollost]
#354162 - 01/27/10 02:25 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Christmas present from the parentals. My mom said it was heavily discounted so I'm guessing this is why
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#354164 - 01/27/10 02:30 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Harry, buy a mac next time.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: TomCollins]
#354167 - 01/27/10 02:32 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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sounds like the display is going out
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: TomCollins]
#354262 - 01/27/10 07:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Spency said: Harry, buy a mac next time.
that's exactly what i was going to say. its sexy and you wont have all those fucking issues that all pc users have dealt with for too long.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#354336 - 01/27/10 09:40 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: GetTheFuckOut]
#354343 - 01/27/10 09:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I concur Excellent example!!
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: GetTheFuckOut]
#354355 - 01/27/10 09:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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haha great analogy.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Doitagain]
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#354363 - 01/27/10 10:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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the other one was more accurate
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Doitagain]
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sorry, that's all i could find in my short search. I think you can pretty much do anything on a mac you can do on a pc. or at the very least everything I would want to do on a mac.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
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prettay much yeah, except for gaming. that's not really an issue for me, i just prefer windows because i know how to use it without any problems and mac has always seemed like its on training wheels.
My sister does have a really nice macbookpro with a massive screen and i used it to DJ with and that was quite anice experience i must say.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Doitagain]
#354386 - 01/27/10 10:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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A 5000 dollar PC which is what a MAC costs will outrun a mac anyday of the week...
You get what you pay for...
Naturally a low-end PC will run like shit.
Its often times not the OS that's buggy its the hardware/drivers.
If Apple were to allow people to use the MAC os on other machines like Dell don't you think people would be bitching?? Probably so.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Doitagain]
#354453 - 01/28/10 08:24 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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You must be talking aboout the absolute top of the line, loaded with everything, mac. The one I plan on buying is 1200.
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My sister does have a really nice macbookpro with a massive screen and i used it to DJ with and that was quite anice experience i must say.
windows can be ran on the macs. not sure about vista though.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#354485 - 01/28/10 11:00 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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sounds like a monitor problem brah
im running xp CAUSE I DONT GIVE A FUCK but try playing around with the display properties
worst comes to worst, turn off your computer and go outside for a while
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#354749 - 01/29/10 12:37 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think I know what it might be Harry_ballsack.
My brother had a similar problem with his PC, but he was running a "Home Meida" based version of Windows 7. So the problem he had was all the red's and orange colors were *REALLY* saturated on the T.V. to the point it was bleeding into the other colors.
So, he went into the settings, and played with some werid-sounding "graphics" settings and fixed it. He found out the cause was a new update that reset the codes.
So, go to the "Display Settings" (right-click on Desktop, click 'Personalize') in Windows 7 and play with the slider settings til it looks right. It could have just been reset from a recent, unannounced Windows Update.
Hope that helps buddy.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: mhbound]
#354813 - 01/29/10 04:04 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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mhbound said: A 5000 dollar PC which is what a MAC costs will outrun a mac anyday of the week...
You get what you pay for...
Naturally a low-end PC will run like shit.
Its often times not the OS that's buggy its the hardware/drivers.
If Apple were to allow people to use the MAC os on other machines like Dell don't you think people would be bitching?? Probably so.
mhbound: Nothing personal. Just ranting.
I'm pretty hardware savy and have been building my own windows computers for about 8 years now. I disagree completely with you.
Now if we're talking about desktops, then this is highly debatable in terms of hardware performance, however it is undeniable that the MAC OS is far superior to any windows platform.
The whole notion that macs are uncustomizable and on training wheels makes no sense. Customizable? What does that even mean? How do you customize your computer? Great so you can get a sick case with a plexi glass side door, LED fans and maybe even a liquid cooling system. Thats what I built a couple of years ago...
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Wow you can do that with windows machines, big deal!!! Honestly, if I had a mac tower, I could rip the guts out and transfer them into a new case and have it setup exactly like that.
Can you do that with laptops? Uhhh no.... so I guess windows laptops aren't customizable either then eh? Well lets check out some of the top laptops then: http://reviews.cnet.com/best-laptops/
Hrmmm..... woah? Macbooks like way up there - it's pretty cheap too! That's just the base model too!
But I mean, you can customize the hardware anyway when you order it online!
Customization: What else could this mean? Does it reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally matter whether or not you can change up your desktop? To some it does! You can do this on mac too! Why you would want to though I don't understand, the dock is the easiest and fastest way to navigate and use your computer.
Also, everyone seems to have the most incredible price misconceptions with apple products. If you think comparably apples are more unreasonably priced than windows computers read this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/apple-mac-leopard-windows-vista,1985.html
In that article, tomshardware built a computer with the exact same specifications as a baseline Mac Pro. They bought all their hardware from newegg.com + Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate - guess what: came out to about the same price. Just so everyone really understands what that means: Buying a Mac Pro Tower (fully built with Mac OSX installed) is JUST AS CHEAP AS buying the same individual parts, building it yourself and installing windows on it. HELLO?!?!?
Apples got some pretty nasty policies and they can be assholes for sure. They really are. However, the quality of both laptops and desktops as well as their prices are simply not something that can be debated. This endless price mongering and apple bashing is soo old already. None of it is true.
Other than their airport line products, I don't I have any complaints about any apple products I've ever bought. So far multiple ipods, 2 iphones, 2 laptops, airport express and a multitude of accessories.
Macs are on training wheels? What does that mean? I don't understand that. Does that mean the computer will most likely not break down, is simple and easy to use? I actually like that.
Windows machines are only good for gaming. You can install windows on a mac.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: TomCollins]
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well in other news, my computer randomly fixed itself yesterday.... I just turned it on and it was fine. for some reason about 35 reboots in a row as well as complete OS reinstall did absolutely nothing, but just forgetting about it for 10 hours while I slept made all the different ![:rolleyes: :rolleyes:](https://files.growery.org/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
that said, continue with the computer discussion, it's very interesting
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
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that said, continue with the computer discussion, it's very interesting ![:smile: :smile:](https://files.growery.org/smileys/smile.gif)
PC's are schizophrenic! I almost flippped out on my PC at work yesterday. It kept pulling up these crazy errors. It fixed itself after a few dozen times, and getting my blood pressure raised a bit. Another reason I hate windows run computers.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Doitagain]
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haha great analogy.
I think this picture sums up to debate of Mac or PC!
It is so true in so many ways. First off is the basic machine, the above article goes on to say that you can buy a factory made baseline apple or build yourself a pc with quality parts for the same price. Well honestly i would prefer my home made pc of quailty parts over any thing factory built. The parts i would install would be true parts, not component parts like factory made stuff.
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In that article, tomshardware built a computer with the exact same specifications as a baseline Mac Pro. They bought all their hardware from newegg.com + Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate - guess what: came out to about the same price. Just so everyone really understands what that means: Buying a Mac Pro Tower (fully built with Mac OSX installed) is JUST AS CHEAP AS buying the same individual parts, building it yourself and installing windows on it. HELLO?!?!?
The main reason i do not have a mac is because there is no software to speak of! Mac offer a round of nice software, but that is it for mac. No third party software. I like choices and preferences not get stuck with what is available. I know what your going to say, "there is a software program for anything you can do on windows". Yup your right, but like i said, that is it, you have no choice or selection for that matter. You stuck with what apple offers you!
Pc is an awsome machine in the right hands. Has thousands of options, software choices, tweaks, and other things. Pc is not the lazy man's machine and requires knowledge of how it works and proper configuration to get the most out of it. Unfortunately, the windows/PC platform is the most used in the world, which in return is the most targeted by programmers, adware, spyware and viruses. Windows has been around for alot longer and the expoits are taken advantage of. And this is where i think pc is getting a bad name. Apple has been around but not in public like the pc. Not many people owned mac's to exploit. But i guarantee that with the popularity of mac these days, the programmers will follow and except the new challenge of exploiting the apple OS.
So i see the photo from hemo's post and laugh cause it really does sum up the debate of pc and mac. You buy a mac and have a solid machine because, there is no altering it with anything other then apple software. Which is why apple is a said monopoly. Software developed for apple by apple, it better be right! Pc on the other hand comes with the basic body and engine, but can be modified beyond your wildest computer dreams! And just like the bikes up there, not just anyone should be tinkering with the mechanics. If configured right, watch out! You can take that basic machine and have a top fuel dragster on your hands. Or if you don't know what your doing you could have a flustering clunker on your hands.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: SpaceMonkey]
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SpaceMonkey said: The main reason i do not have a mac is because there is no software to speak of! Mac offer a round of nice software, but that is it for mac. No third party software. I like choices and preferences not get stuck with what is available. I know what your going to say, "there is a software program for anything you can do on windows". Yup your right, but like i said, that is it, you have no choice or selection for that matter. You stuck with what apple offers you!
Are you really high? Because none of what you said made any sense. What are you talking about I'm stuck with only what apple gives me? There's shit loads of third party stuff. Microsoft even makes products for mac users.
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Wow man, I'm not sure if computers are really your forte, but I believe that not only has the Mac OS line been around for longer than Windows, but it stems from the UNIX family which predates DOS. Lol, so Windows has definitely not been around for longer. UNIX systems are simply safer in general, however it is Apples frequent security updates that make Mac OSX such a safe OS to use.
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Oh well.... ....
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: TomCollins]
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Dios mio!
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: TomCollins]
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Ok, well you have a point about apple being on the scene before pc, But apple fell flat on its face soon as trs-80 and commador hit the market. No one but a select few had an apple machine. I can remember my first computer was in grade school and it was an apple 2. But where did they go after that? Apple has spent so much time and money on making a "perfect" machine and developing software for this "perfect" machine that they have not been able to produce an affordable machine for the home user up till the early to mid 90's. Microsoft has been able to do this by letting 3rd parties write software and to develop hardware for the windows platform. Which is also why pc has such compatibility issues with some hardware/software.
Maybe todays market allows for some 3rd party software, but any software released for mac by a third party has to be approved by apple! This has been the case and still is the case. There is a pretty good history of apple on Wikipedia case your still in disbelief.
Computers not my forte? Haha, i have a part time business repairing pc's. I hope it's my forte! And have been using computers for almost 20 years now. Apple 2 was the firstin later part of grade school, then middle school i got a TRS80 and then to a commador64 and then finally to a Hewlett Packard9( or PackardBell) 80mhz machine, and upgrades ever since!
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: SpaceMonkey]
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what year were you born SpaceMonkey?
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: TomCollins]
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that was really quick and I would have guessed thereabouts.
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my reaction was parallel to yours. didn't mean to direct that to you. im still learning this place.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
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Nah, it's all good!
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: SpaceMonkey]
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So, about the Mac vs. Windows analogy with the bikes.....
So, I've never owned a Mac, but I've used it before. Is it true that its not customizable like Windows is? In which ways. I know the iPhone is like that: theres lots of app add-ons, but you can't change the interface into the way you like. Which is very user-friendly but not fun for us PC modders (of the OS, not the hardware).
But whats good about Macs is that theres less viruses/trojans, etc. because the platform is less common than PC's. I like that, especailly because I get some nasty viruses sometimes and I'm too poor to buy a good anti-virus program.
Anyone here owned both Mac and PC, like at the same time? What's the biggest differences and similarities between the the platforms?
I personally like the amount of programs that run on PC. Does Mac's have a lot programs you can use?
To FurrowedBrow:
I love that phot with the cars. So true. Windows are complex and "ugly", but you van "touch" all the parts (settings). And the Mac is clean and sexy, but its really simple (little customization). Awesome photo Phind!
Fill me in MACers.....
Time for Tech Talk ~ LogicaL Chaos ~
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
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Harry_Ba11sach said: I need some help! last night my computer was perfectly fine, but this morning I wake up and it's completely fucked!
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all the color rendering is fucked up and I have no idea why. I tried a system restore and it said it failed because some program interfered with it. I can barely even read this box I'm typing it because it's neon pink and all my letters are shadowed in white. I seriously do not understand what's happening.
this computer is less than a month old so I'm freaking out, did I get a faulty graphics card or is this a virus of some sort?
are u sure it's not your monitor that is causing the problems?
that screen shot you posted looks normal to me ![:shrug: :shrug:](https://files.growery.org/smileys/shrug.gif)
ah, should have read thru more, seems like u got a laptop.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: I_AM_SWIM]
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Actually, you should of read even further back: Harry said the computer "magically" fixed itself (weird right? Harry, I think you be trippin'!). I personal think this magic was created by all the people in this thread who tried to fix the problem with their minds, and on a metaphysical plane of existance, "magically" fixed the color problem.
The End. Problem "Fixed" Now we are talking about the Pros/Con and the similarities/differences of Macs and PC's. Got an opinion? Share it.....
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: SpaceMonkey]
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SpaceMonkey said: Ok, well you have a point about apple being on the scene before pc, But apple fell flat on its face soon as trs-80 and commador hit the market. No one but a select few had an apple machine. I can remember my first computer was in grade school and it was an apple 2. But where did they go after that? Apple has spent so much time and money on making a "perfect" machine and developing software for this "perfect" machine that they have not been able to produce an affordable machine for the home user up till the early to mid 90's. Microsoft has been able to do this by letting 3rd parties write software and to develop hardware for the windows platform. Which is also why pc has such compatibility issues with some hardware/software.
Ok, from what I've read on the subject apple didn't really fall flat on it's face, it was simply in third place to the trs-80 and commadore until it came out with Visicalc. Also, what are you trying to say with all this? How does this make Windows better?
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I'm not sure that's true at all SpaceMonkey. I'm fairly certain Apple wouldn't approve of iPhone unlocking software for example. I can download and install that.
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Could you be more specific? I couldn't find anything on apple approving all 3rd-party software and what not.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: TomCollins]
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Well first off Spency, I think it is personal preference to what side of the fence you like to be. I am not necessarily saying that one is better then the other. I will say though that no matter what PC will always be more customizable, have more options and evolve faster. Also, Windows is just the operating system for PC.
Spency, If you really want to know the whole story about apple and why they are what they are, research it on the net. And Unix was not part of apple in the beginning! Unix was developed by AT&T as a programmers tools. Unix is it's own operating system! Linux and BSD were also developed using unix system. Not till OS X did apple incorporate a BSD varient of the unix system into their operating system. And 9 times out of 10 it will be run on PC. ![:shrug: :shrug:](https://files.growery.org/smileys/shrug.gif)
So i am not sure what you are after by debating me on this. Read the articles and then come back here and debate this with me! Apple was my research paper back in highschool, and i may not remember it all but a quick look even on wikipedia was a breath of fresh air.
The third party software you speak of(the iphone unlocker) is a hackers tool! I believe i said this earlier, as apple catches on people will start targeting the devices and viruses and other hack tools will develop. That's inevitable! Your unlocker is not an official piece of software, sorry.
Somewhere at the bottom of the wiki article i linked to up there ,in the criticisms section it gives brief couple sentences regarding 3rd party software. And that is only a small portion dealing with iphones app approval.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: SpaceMonkey]
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You must be talking aboout the absolute top of the line, loaded with everything, mac. The one I plan on buying is 1200.
For 1200 bucks I could make a fucking amazing PC.
Also; I have never had a problem with a PC in my life, and I have been using PC's for over 13 years.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
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Am I the only one that those two pictures look completely normal to?
Since the pictures look 100% normal to me I would say it is your monitor.
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because it's neon pink and all my letters are shadowed in white
Magnet damage is usually purplish pink in a lot of places.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: SpaceMonkey]
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SpaceMonkey said: Well first off Spency, I think it is personal preference to what side of the fence you like to be. I am not necessarily saying that one is better then the other. I will say though that no matter what PC will always be more customizable, have more options and evolve faster. Also, Windows is just the operating system for PC.
I'm having a hard time understanding what you mean by PC? By PC do you mean the standalone hardware. Well then of course, but we're talking about windows here. Which sucks. Besides, the evolving and varied hardware is a really narrow field in terms of the computer market. Unless your buying cutting edge hardware - the benefits of buying a factory computer over custom building your own are marginal - even in cost. With that said, this is almost inapplicable with laptops.
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SpaceMonkey said: And Unix was not part of apple in the beginning! Unix was developed by AT&T as a programmers tools. Unix is it's own operating system! Linux and BSD were also developed using unix system. Not till OS X did apple incorporate a BSD varient of the unix system into their operating system. And 9 times out of 10 it will be run on PC. ![:shrug: :shrug:](https://files.growery.org/smileys/shrug.gif)
Why are you telling me this? I never said UNIX was part of apple. I was saying earlier was that Mac OSX is a more stable and safer platform because it. This isn't what we're talking about.
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SpaceMonkey said:So i am not sure what you are after by debating me on this. Read the articles and then come back here and debate this with me! Apple was my research paper back in highschool, and i may not remember it all but a quick look even on wikipedia was a breath of fresh air.
Well, your here telling people that there is no 3rd party software for macs. That's a complete lie. It doesn't matter what you wrote about back in high school, that doesn't make you a credible source.
Also, you addressed me remember? It's not like I'm here trying to just shit on you, I'm responding to you.
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SpaceMonkey said: The third party software you speak of(the iphone unlocker) is a hackers tool! I believe i said this earlier, as apple catches on people will start targeting the devices and viruses and other hack tools will develop. That's inevitable! Your unlocker is not an official piece of software, sorry.
It doesn't matter. It's still 3rd party software. Anyone can write an application for Mac OS X and put it up on the web - thats what 3rd party software is. It's software developed for an operating system, by an entity other than the creator of the operating system.
Is Firefox "hacker software?"
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SpaceMonkey said:Somewhere at the bottom of the wiki article i linked to up there ,in the criticisms section it gives brief couple sentences regarding 3rd party software. And that is only a small portion dealing with iphones app approval. Next........
I read that and I even checked out the full article. There is nothing about apple approving and controlling software for Mac OS X. Perhaps if you quoted something for me, I'm sure my opinion would change - however as of right now, based on my own experience as well as a lack of evidence for what you claim, I have to disagree with you.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: TomCollins]
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I just think all computer systems are more or less as good as any other. Because they pretty much are.
The biggest reason for some of my friends to choose mac was the lack of viruses written for mac. But the reason there are not as many viruses is because there are less people that use mac. I could write a virus just as easy for mac as I could a PC.
(But the last paragraph is a huge tangent from the topic.)
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: TomCollins]
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Wow man, I'm not sure if computers are really your forte, but I believe that not only has the Mac OS line been around for longer than Windows, but it stems from the UNIX family which predates DOS. Lol, so Windows has definitely not been around for longer. UNIX systems are simply safer in general, however it is Apples frequent security updates that make Mac OSX such a safe OS to use.
This is you? It was your first return response. This is why i am telling you this!
And i believe we were talking about mac VS. PC. Correct? Not windows vs. osx.
See you want me to do all the foot work here and furnish you with a quote and your just going to disagree until i prove my point. See i don't care what you believe to be true. It is what it is! Any of the older members who grew up in the time of pc and mac know what i am talking about. If anything you need to start furnishing some sources for this info you seem to know is right!
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
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Thebooedocksaint said: I just think all computer systems are more or less as good as any other. Because they pretty much are.
The biggest reason for some of my friends to choose mac was the lack of viruses written for mac. But the reason there are not as many viruses is because there are less people that use mac. I could write a virus just as easy for mac as I could a PC.
Agreed!
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: SpaceMonkey]
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SpaceMonkey said: It is what it is! Any of the older members who grew up in the time of pc and mac know what i am talking about. If anything you need to start furnishing some sources for this info you seem to know is right!
Spacemonkey, the reason I disagree with you is because I'm on a mac right now. I have third party applications installed. Lots of them.
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Thebooedocksaint said: The biggest reason for some of my friends to choose mac was the lack of viruses written for mac. But the reason there are not as many viruses is because there are less people that use mac. I could write a virus just as easy for mac as I could a PC.
Actually mac os x is just very well secured on it's own. Frequent security updates make it immune to most all viruses out there for mac. Mac OS X has been around for such a while that it is just simply now rock solid. After a while, writing new and dynamic viruses becomes more and more difficult as eventually every hole in the system is filled in.
It's not because there are less users. Maybe in the U.S. there are less users but I see a fair amount of mac users around here.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: TomCollins]
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Actually mac os x is just very well secured on it's own. Frequent security updates make it immune to most all viruses out there for mac. Mac OS X has been around for such a while that it is just simply now rock solid. After a while, writing new and dynamic viruses becomes more and more difficult as eventually every hole in the system is filled in.
Just plain wrong.
Windows has frequent security updates.
And the phrase "most all viruses" is poorly used because new ones are wrote all the time, of course more of them would have already been created and protected against than the ones currently around.
You don't like what I'm saying prove me wrong.
Macs have horrible interface IMO anyways.
I love my PC, and always will.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
#357212 - 02/03/10 01:14 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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well i bought an imac today. Here's the specs on it:
• PROCESSOR 065-8366 3.06GHZ INTEL CORE 2 DUO • MEMORY 065-8369 4GB 1066MHZ DDR3 SDRAM - 2X2GB • HARD DRIVE 065-8372 500GB SERIAL ATA DRIVE • GRAPHICS 065-8923 NVIDIA GEFORCE 9400M • OPTICAL DRIVE 065-8716 8X DOUBLE-LAYER SUPERDRIVE • MOUSE 065-8380 APPLE MAGIC MOUSE • APPLE KEYBOARD & USER'S GUIDE 065-8390 KYBD(NUM) & USER'S GUIDE • COUNTRY KIT 065-8433 COUNTRY KIT,IMAC 21.5-INCH
Now when that gets here I will just need to get a Photoshop program and I will be in business. Also want to get into some 3d modeling and what not. fuuuuck ya!
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
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Sounds pretty nice FB! Fill us in on ho you like it when you get it!!
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
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FurrowedBrow said: well i bought an imac today. Here's the specs on it:
• PROCESSOR 065-8366 3.06GHZ INTEL CORE 2 DUO • MEMORY 065-8369 4GB 1066MHZ DDR3 SDRAM - 2X2GB • HARD DRIVE 065-8372 500GB SERIAL ATA DRIVE • GRAPHICS 065-8923 NVIDIA GEFORCE 9400M • OPTICAL DRIVE 065-8716 8X DOUBLE-LAYER SUPERDRIVE • MOUSE 065-8380 APPLE MAGIC MOUSE • APPLE KEYBOARD & USER'S GUIDE 065-8390 KYBD(NUM) & USER'S GUIDE • COUNTRY KIT 065-8433 COUNTRY KIT,IMAC 21.5-INCH
Now when that gets here I will just need to get a Photoshop program and I will be in business. Also want to get into some 3d modeling and what not. fuuuuck ya!
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Right on bro. Specs look really nice on that thing. I do 3d modeling too.
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Re: somebody who's good with computers!!! [Re: TomCollins]
#360725 - 02/09/10 01:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Got the comp today. It's niiiceee. I like this mouse more than i thought i would. I was planning on using an old bluetooth mouse/keyboard. the colors of the screen are so clear it reminds me of a mushroom trip.
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