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 DrGreenThumb
 
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 Re: I'm living my own wet dream  [Re: Sgt. Smoke]
#352184 - 01/22/10 11:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Read the WHOLE post Smoke. He gives the dimensions early on.
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 Sgt. Smoke
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: DrGreenThumb]
#352188 - 01/22/10 11:12 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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jeez I'm sorry again!!
First impressions suck huh?LOL!!
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DrGreenThumb
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: Sgt. Smoke]
#352189 - 01/22/10 11:14 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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No it seems to me like you're pretty well read Sgt. Smoke. That post about not enough FAE earlier seemed right on.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: Sgt. Smoke]
#352190 - 01/22/10 11:17 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sorry smoke, I know you weren't talking down to me. I'm typing all this tonight on my iPhone fro
a condo so I sometimes dont take enough time to type and end up sounding kind cur and angry. My apologies.
I'm still not sure I understand how a 55 gallon res could fill 48 2-gallon buckets though... Wish I knew more abot the system so I could customize it with 5 gallon buckets and a 250gal res
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dutc2006
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#352212 - 01/23/10 12:40 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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They don't necessarily have to fill the buckets as you pointed out earlier, it could be modified to be a top feed drip system, thus removing the need for a huge controller rez.
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blueberry D
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#352286 - 01/23/10 10:50 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Have you thought about bio buckets I read up the other day on these and sounds pretty beneficial. Since it is such a huge set-up having to switch the water out and figure the ppms sounds like alot of work. Now I am not trying to beat around the bush or take shortcuts but in a huge set-up like that bio-buckets sound like the way to go. Have you guys ever heard of these or know of someone that has and had success. If so let me know because I am really considering my next grow to be somewhat similar.
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#352392 - 01/23/10 04:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why put all your eggs in one basket? Running one huge res, when you could easily run two or three runs a greater risk. If anything contaminates, or goes way off ph, or any of the other problems that are unlikely but do happen you would loose or damage your whole run.
Since you have all that room dedicate most of it to what you think will be the best way, and maybe practice/try a new system off to the side with 5 or 6 buckets. Dont assume you will get it right the first time, and plan accordingly.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: rodfarva]
#352411 - 01/23/10 05:14 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dude I'm definitely planning on running 3-4 different systems, but with a 9KW flowering room each of those 4 systems still needs to be huge. How many 2 gallon buckets do you think can fit in a 12x15 room?
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#352415 - 01/23/10 05:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's not the size of the buckets but the size of the plants you need to think about.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: Inverted]
#352425 - 01/23/10 05:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes but the size of the plants is controllable and continuously variable, the size of the buckets is static. How many plants would yousuggest at any one time in the flowering room? This guy said he wants trees but I'm going to try to talk him out of that a little bit to reduce time in veg, and reduce popcorn nugs
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#352441 - 01/23/10 06:20 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah trees are epic, but not very efficient.
I'd probably do something like 40 plants. Split up into (4) 4x5 pot systems.
Seems about right to me  I'm a newb when it comes to building hydro systems though, and am simply basing this off of logical size and the need for an aisle down the middle to tend/harvest the plants. That's just 
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dutc2006
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#352446 - 01/23/10 06:30 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Depending on the strain, my Strawberry Cough and Wreckage grow out sideways and take up at least 1.5 sq.ft each, my LA Woman's nodes grow straight up along the main stalk and take 1 sq.ft. each, and that is in 3 gallon pots.
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rodfarva
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#352471 - 01/23/10 09:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Introduce him to SCOG growing. You can get a pound from one bucket.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: rodfarva]
#352476 - 01/23/10 09:41 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah but do you know how much work it would be to scrog 75-100 plants? Not to mention the impracticality of moving an entire screen with 10 plants tied in from the veg room to the flowering room
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Magash
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#352480 - 01/23/10 10:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok, I like the ebb and flow system you showed (cause it's the exact one I use in all 8 of my gardens now to divide the space up I'd use Dark Rooms by Secret Jardin. (like hydro huts but better) They also are made of a material that protects the garden from therm detection. Plus they have all the stuff to hang the fans, lights, and all the stuff without having to put holes in walls and ceilings. Plus should the garden have to move the entire grow spaces can move and the garage looks like it was never used as a grow space. Plus my insane use of the word plus in this thread.
Now I'd divide the flowering space in two so you harvest every month. Now if you have more then 16 plants in each 4x4 space then your gonna have trouble scroging cause of space.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: Magash]
#352511 - 01/23/10 11:15 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nah we definitely won't scrog, but sog or maybe just a bunch of decent sized bushed seems very likely.
how many plants would you run under 10kw magash? and would you use those 2-gallon ebb and flow pots or would you think about using some 3-5 gallon pots and grow some bigger plants using LST?
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#352590 - 01/24/10 09:20 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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so I'm thinking 3 separate systems for this. Basically one under each row of 1KW lights, but in reality I'm sure they'll get spaced out a littler weirder than that. I can't decide if 24 buckets or 36 buckets would be the best idea but I suppose I'll just ask the dude what his preference is on number of plants vs. size. I'll probably need to lay out the pros and cons of large vs small plants but that won't be too hard I don't think.
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#352596 - 01/24/10 09:51 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is this going to be a legitimate medical grow?
Doesn't sound like it. I was just curious. I didn't remember anything about it being legit. Awesome nonetheless.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: Inverted]
#352600 - 01/24/10 09:59 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh yeah it's all going to be completely legal. that's sort of part of the issue here as well since our med cards are limited by the number of plants you can grow, so larger plants will be more practical in terms of yield. 200 small plants will yield more, but then he has to round up 70 patients in order to keep it legal, so he'll probably want to just shoot for like 60-80 larger plants with fewer patients. Each patient will request a 1/4oz or 1/2 or whatever as their half of the deal so larger plants will also maximize "profit" after the patient withdrawal.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: I'm living my own wet dream [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#352939 - 01/25/10 10:37 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Does anyone have any good ideas on heating and cooling? The place will be insulated but just taking in fresh air won't be sufficient during the summer
months. I can install an air conditioner, but should it be in the flowering room, or the external portion of the garage? This is a big area to cool with a single AC unit without some complex ducting
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