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 Budmanman
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 plant has some browning help 
#291511 - 10/04/09 12:05 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am trying to bonzai my plants.
and after I made my first cut the plants have started to do what you see above.
Can someone help me out?
There a good 4-5 weeks old now and used to look like this before I cut them.
if that helps.
Do they just happen to do this when you cut them?
Edited by Budmanman (10/04/09 12:05 AM)
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 Dr. Penguin
Registered: 05/19/08
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Re: plant has some browning help [Re: Budmanman]
#292053 - 10/04/09 10:40 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks like a bit of a nutrient deficiency to me. have you been fertilizing? If so, when, how often, what brand, and what strength? Have you checked your PH?
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Budmanman
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Re: plant has some browning help [Re: Dr. Penguin]
#292390 - 10/05/09 06:17 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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well this plant I have not fed ONCE.
maybe that is why it is the worst.
I have not fed it yet cause it grew the slowest.
The other plants have had a feeding of 550 ppm
and so far one plain water watering after.
I was about to give them another plain water watering because I cut them and there not as big now.
Should I feed them all next watering?
that is the plant food I have
http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/soilfeed.pdf
this is a feeding schedule for it but I have been advised to not follow it because week 2 mix makes a ppm of 1200 which is supposedly way to high however I believe fox farm is different than most nutes.
But none the less I fed the others 550 ppm about half recommended.
and here is a pic of my soil.
My PH meter always reads 6.4-6.6 every watering.
I also use tap water but I let it sit for a good week or 2 before using it.
So you think I should give them a heavier feeding now?
http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/291997#291997
here is a link to my log
Edited by Budmanman (10/05/09 06:18 PM)
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Dr. Penguin
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Re: plant has some browning help [Re: Budmanman]
#292447 - 10/05/09 07:10 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would give them all a good feeding next round (600ppm is about right) and see if there is any improvement. You may also want to raise your Ph a bit (6.8 is ideal).
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Budmanman
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Re: plant has some browning help [Re: Dr. Penguin]
#292483 - 10/05/09 07:55 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just mixed up some half strength nutes based on that chart at week 2.
PPM reads 750. PH reads 6.3 I will wait 24 hours and adjust the ph to 6.6
wait 24 hours and re check the ph and then water them.
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coda
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Re: plant has some browning help [Re: Budmanman]
#292524 - 10/05/09 08:46 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Man, i dunno, that looks like a nutrient overload to me. FF soils usually run a bit hot, my seedlings are feeling a bit of a burn right now.
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Re: plant has some browning help [Re: coda]
#292527 - 10/05/09 08:47 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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coda said:
Man, i dunno, that looks like a nutrient overload to me. FF soils usually run a bit hot, my seedlings are feeling a bit of a burn right now.
He said he hasnt fed it once. It looks like a Nitrogen def. to me.
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coda
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Re: plant has some browning help [Re: Triptonic]
#292985 - 10/06/09 06:45 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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You don't need to feed plants anything if the soil you're growing is packed with nutrients (like fox farm soils are) to burn them. Plus that looks nothing like a N def. N Def starts with the leaves turning pale yellow and eventually dying out.
N Def.
I dunno, to me this isn't a case of a deficiency. The only other thing I could think of would be a PH imbalance which is causing a lockout (which, yes i know, would lead to symptoms pointing towards a deficiency). Also the necrosis on the leaves is another reason why I say this is not an N deficiency.
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Re: plant has some browning help [Re: coda]
#293057 - 10/06/09 09:30 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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When I had "nitrogen deficency" thats what mine looked like before it turned yellow. But that was just told to me. I dont know if it was correct.
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Budmanman
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Re: plant has some browning help [Re: Triptonic]
#293065 - 10/06/09 09:42 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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my ph should b have a good meter and all my water I use to water my plants and feed is ph to 6.4-6.7 always.
I re calibrate every 2-4 weeks and use the proper storage solution.
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coda
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Re: plant has some browning help [Re: Budmanman]
#293285 - 10/07/09 11:52 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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well, if you want to take the risk, dose that sick plant with a nice strong feeding of nitrogen. I still don't think it's an N deficiency, and if it's not deficient due to a lockout, the only thing that will fix it is more N. However, since the leaves have already burned, twisted, and become necrotic, even a strong dose of N won't bring those particular leaves back. It will prevent the problem from spreading, but essentially the already sick fan leaves will never rebound.
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Budmanman
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Re: plant has some browning help [Re: coda]
#293310 - 10/07/09 01:41 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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yea I fed it and cut those leafs off.
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