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10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog *COMPLETED*
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Genetics: KO Kush (Killa Kush/Herijuana) - (Grow Journal of the Mothers)
Genetics Type: Mostly Indica
Flowering time: 7-8 weeks
Grow box: My Grow Box thread with detailed information
Growth Medium: Peat soil
Light Source: 400W HPS
Nutrient Combinations: Biogreen line - Growing Schedule
Pruning Techniques: Top and scrog.

Here is an overview of the closet I (and my friends) are growing in, with an old grow:


The clones come from two fresh mothers that I grew from seeds (see this thread). Here are the clones just after cloning and their two mothers:


After 8-10 days they all showed roots:


I did transplant them into new containers and put them under the 400W HPS, this is where day 1 - veg starts.

Day 1 - veg (17 August 2008)
Pics taken just after transplanting the rooted clones into new containers. The DIY greenhouse keeps the humidity high for the first 2-4 days under 400W HPS.


Day 3 - veg

I removed the greenhouse because they should have enough roots to handle a humidity of 50%.


Day 5 - veg


day 10 - veg




day 18 - veg






day 1 - flowering


day 7 - flowering

The scrog is getting full. I removed almost all leaves and branches that didn't make it through the scrog net. This creates a better airflow and prevents "waste"(pretty potent but harder to harvest/cut) in popcorn buts. The scrog net is used to direct the plants to unused places, where light is wasted, and to create an even field where side branches can become much larger.







Day 14 - flowering

It's very crowded in there. The very first signs of flowers are visible, but not as clear as I've seen in my other grows with unknown strains after two weeks on 12/12. Everything looks healthy to me. Temperatures drop to 16C (60F) at day, when the light is off. It's around 25C (77F) in the canopy when the light is on. 




day 24 - flowering

Everything OK! My only worry is that it may be to crowded for the lower buds to develop. We have never had plants with leaves this size.



The difference in leaf colour is not real but caused by the HPS and shadows of my arms.



day 28 - flowering

All pictures with flash only:









day 37 - flowering

Previous grows had larger flowers at this stage. It is very crowded and there are many flowers though. Let's see what happens. Here are the pics. It's hard to picture any flowers, because leaves cover almost everything.





day 49 - flowering

Flowers are still small compared to previous grows. I hope the high number of tops makes up for the smaller tops. There just isn't enough light for most flowers to fully develop and I hope the lower flowers aren't too fluffy. It's too crowded in the middle top + scrog part :smile:.











day 64 - flowering

It's harvest day today. I removed some large fan leaves that blocked all the light to the lower buds in the last week. Next grow will definitely have a shorter veg stage because it became too crowded. There are many flowers, but they are all very small and stopped growing very early. I hope the buds are hard and not fluffy. We will harvest in one hour :cool:


I labeled the plants in this pic. M1 = clone from KO Kush mother 1 and M2 = KO Kush mother 2.




Edited by Annom (12/01/08 04:27 PM)

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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we saw this way back when...

r those babies bigguns yet?


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: just me]
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What exactly is your question? This is a new grow.

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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oh

ok

i just remembered seeing this set up, i thought maybe you added somehtin new, but all the plants are new?


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: just me]
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It's the first time that I grow a known strain from my own mothers. Before this, I always bought unknown 'commercial white' clones. Everything is home-made and known right now, that's why I made a journal.

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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ok well then this is all i have left to say

:hi5:

ill be keepin an eye on this one.

is it just one 400w for all those?


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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is it just one 400w for all those?



Yes, I only have 400W. I made 14 clones and we will probably plant 10 of them. It basically means a shorter vegetative period when we use more plants. 5 is tolerated(=you have to close your grow, but are not prosecuted) in Holland so we are thinking about going to one mother and 4 flowering plants to avoid a possible mild penalty(most likely a fine) when busted.

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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Day 5 - veg

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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looking good man.

those are really leafy for only 5 days in veg.

you left a lot of leaves on when you took the clones huh?


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: just me]
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Here are the clones:

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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:lol:

ok so different than the ones in the previous pic, or ur showing the clones right when you took them?

still a LOTTA leaf imo

but u know ur shit, so keep on keepin on


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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I like your grow setup a lot. Keep us updated bro, that's lookin' mighty nice so far.


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: PsilocybinMike]
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PsilocybinMike said:
I like your grow setup a lot. Keep us updated bro, that's lookin' mighty nice so far.



He does have nice setup.

And you have a nice sig.


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: King Koopa]
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Super amazing bro.

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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day 10 - veg



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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: just me]
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just me said:
ok so different than the ones in the previous pic, or ur showing the clones right when you took them?




Here are the clones right when I took them:

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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Annom said:
The seeds
10x K.O Kush (cross between Killa Kush and Herijuana) crossed by a local grower.




Just looked up the heritage. Provided the end result is what you expected, I might just be jealous.


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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day 18

They are 8 days in their final soil box today. I topped the 5 most central plants to create more branches and make the scrog easier.
Our grow box doesn't have the most efficient shape and the plants at the sides, furthest from the lamp, don't receive much light. By not topping and scrogging them, they will be able to keep up with the rest in height and catch some light.
They are still on a 18/6 regime. I will switch to 12/12 in a few days.
Here are the pics:






Edited by Annom (09/05/08 11:06 AM)

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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They look really beautiful and healthy, seeing them flower will be a delight. :pimp3:

We have the exact same thermometer/hygrometer as you do. :muahaha:


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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day 1 - flowering

We put them on 12/12 today and placed the scrog screen. This is going to get crowded!


Edited by Annom (09/09/08 11:25 AM)

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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this is great! i was thinking about growing some og kush. looking forward to this one. and your white strain was awesome.


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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day 7 - flowering

The scrog is getting full. I removed almost all leaves and branches that didn't make it through the scrog net. This creates a better airflow and prevents "waste"(pretty potent but harder to harvest/cut) in popcorn buts. The scrog net is used to direct the plants to unused places, where light is wasted, and to create an even field where side branches can become much larger.

I also finally found the right way to set the white balance on my camera so I can make good(realistic colour) pics with the HPS light on.






Edited by Annom (09/15/08 03:27 PM)

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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That's an impressive looking canopy. :ganja:

I'd love to mess around with a scrog sometime. Can't really do it with our flowering room though, as we've got different strains going on with different times and different things coming in and out, but we'll be experimenting with some vertical scrogs soon. :grin:


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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Day 14 - flowering

It's very crowded in there. The very first signs of flowers are visible, but not as clear as I've seen in my other grows with unknown strains after two weeks on 12/12. Everything looks healthy to me. Temperatures drop to 16C (60F) at day, when the light is off. It's around 25C (77F) in the canopy when the light is on. 



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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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Can't wait to see that turn into a sea of colas. :toke:


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Sirius]
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ditto


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: just me]
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Wow those are looking great.


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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day 24 - flowering

Everything OK! My only worry is that it may be to crowded for the lower buds to develop. We have never had plants with leaves this size.



The difference in leaf colour is not real but caused by the HPS and shadows of my arms.



The next pics are made with flash and without HPS and are a better representation of their colour.

Edited by Annom (10/02/08 03:50 PM)

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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Ahh, fuck yeah, been waiting to see your room start to "resinate". :grin:

I'm not so sure that you'll need to worry about the lower buds' development due to the big leaves being in the way, because those huge fuckers should be doing the photosynthesizing for those lower buds. Not 100% on how that all works, but I'm sure that energy gets diverted to the buds first. :smile:


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Sirius]
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looking fantastic... going to be a nice harvest... :smile:


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: t0ad]
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i want to see an update here


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
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Um... he just updated it yesterday, you stoner. :grin:


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Sirius]
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hahahhahahahahahhahahhahahahahahahah ya he did my bad/ you know its goos weed when you cant remember yesterday :happyweed:


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
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Annom will know all about that soon enough with plants like these. :tongue:


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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day 28 - flowering

All pictures with flash only:








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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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yummy


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
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I just took a refresher course on your grow box and it's something I'm strongly considering once I choose my best mums for a potential soilless SOG setup. Excellent work.
BTW, your ladies look marvelous.


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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day 37 - flowering

Previous grows had larger flowers at this stage. It is very crowded and there are many flowers though. Let's see what happens. Here are the pics. It's hard to picture any flowers, because leaves cover almost everything.




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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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Looking great so far Annom! I can't wait to see the finished product. I love your grow space btw.


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Dr. Penguin]
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:bowdown:  :thumbup::thumbup:

Another excellent log!  Will you be posting the final weight?


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: FurrowedBrow]
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Those top buds are looking dope


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: FurrowedBrow]
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Quote:
Will you be posting the final weight?



Sure.

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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day 49 - flowering

Flowers are still small compared to previous grows. I hope the high number of tops makes up for the smaller tops. There just isn't enough light for most flowers to fully develop and I hope the lower flowers aren't too fluffy. It's too crowded in the middle top + scrog part :smile:.










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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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i  love your scaome

CAMERA!

fuck


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: just me]
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oh my god. wanna smoke me out hahhahahah beautiful


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
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day 64 - flowering

It's harvest day today. I removed some large fan leaves that blocked all the light to the lower buds in the last week. Next grow will definitely have a shorter veg stage because it became too crowded. There are many flowers, but they are all very small and stopped growing very early. I hope the buds are hard and not fluffy. I hope it will be more than I think. We will harvest in one hour :cool:


I labeled the plants in this pic. M1 = clone from KO Kush mother 1 and M2 = KO Kush mother 2.




Edited by Annom (11/09/08 11:20 AM)

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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Looks sexy Annom. I love the different colors from the different clones. What do you predict weight wise from this?


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Dr. Penguin]
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200g (= 7 ounces) dry. Previous grows yielded between 280-400 g.

Edited by Annom (11/09/08 11:45 AM)

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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It's 1326 g (= 46 ounces) wet. That will make around 250 g dry. M1 yielded 500g and M2 800g. That is a big difference.

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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still looks like a successful grow :smile:


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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Dry results: 280 g total (165 g from M1 and 115 g from M2).

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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i hope it's as good as it looks

whats trimming like with scrog grows?


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: captain.koons]
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where's all that frosty trim going to

annom edit: sorry, pressed the edit instead of reply button, didn't edit anything.


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Edited by Annom (11/19/08 02:29 PM)

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Yrat]
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your living my dream annom... :sadyes:

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Voodoo]
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wow that trim is goign to make some seriously fine hashish??


you are going to make hash???


i urge you to coniser ice water hash and screens over ISO.

it's much cleaner tasting and smoooooth, and it's ready to smoke from start of making it, to being couch lock fucked up, 1.5 hours.  PM me if you're in need of Hash bags.

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Yrat]
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Yrat said:
where's all that frosty trim going to



My friend tried to make hash and oil before. It works, but it yields too little to be worth the effort. We just didn't trim very short. I don't mind smoking leaves covered in trichomes.

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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Annom said:
I don't mind smoking leaves covered in trichomes.



meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 3


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: just me]
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ive smoked good shake before so me 4

obv id prefer nuggsss but ive had frosty shake thats better than the nugs usually availible here if your callin around randomly


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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That was amazing! Dont mind the silly question but what is the air duct tube running down the middle? Is that just providing fresh air from the outside? and you have a bunch of slits in it all on the inside and scrubbers to keep the smell out of the house?

God those plants look incredible! :drool2:

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: CookieMonster]
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the cut up ducting is for fresh air


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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: CookieMonster]
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Fresh air is blown in by this fan, the air comes from the heated(in the winter) and cooler(in the summer) first floor:

The fresh air then moves through the tube with slits, it is closed at the end.

Smelly hot air is removed through this hole:

That is connected to a carbon filter on the outside. The air moves through the filter into the attic.


See my grow box here.

Edited by Annom (11/21/08 09:09 AM)

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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I think that is going to be way too intense for my first grow. I dont know if you already said this but what is an approximate cost for your entire setup

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: CookieMonster]
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CookieMonster said:
I think that is going to be way too intense for my first grow. I dont know if you already said this but what is an approximate cost for your entire setup



i calculated my grow box of a flower area of 3w*2d*6t
and a veg area of 2*1*4 with full vents and filtration set up for 400wats hps and ebb and flow table for about one thousand dollars.

ONE GRAND FOR A DECENT GROW ROOM.

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: CookieMonster]
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CookieMonster said:
I think that is going to be way too intense for my first grow. I dont know if you already said this but what is an approximate cost for your entire setup



$700-800

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: Annom]
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Damn maybe I will just stick with mushrooms :tongue:

It is very intimidating taking on a new hobby, I need a good beginners tek I think :smirk:

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: CookieMonster]
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grow looks great, loox like good bubblehash makings.

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Re: 10x KO Kush, 400W HPS, peat soil, scrog [Re: jeetered]
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Any updates? This grow looks great, I love you set up and despite what others may think I think 700-800 bucks is great for such a effective setup. Keep up the good work, I have alot to learn from you and your buddies.:thumbup:

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